Lunardi still has Wisconsin as our number two seed

CalCat57

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They are going geography over seeding. We are stuck with Wisconsin and they are stuck with us.
 

new era cat

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The way I see it, three is no scenario that moves Wisconsin from our region unless Arizona loses.
If anyone has something else I am all ears.
 
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Funny, he now has Ohio State up to a 7 seed. Guess that impressive performance against Wisconsin opened his eyes to how great of a team the Buckeyes actually are.
 

Rhavic

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Yes, be happy with it. That is what you can and should do.
 
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Originally posted by new era cat:
The way I see it, three is no scenario that moves Wisconsin from our region unless Arizona loses.
If anyone has something else I am all ears.
I think if Virginia loses before the finals of the ACC tournament, they they aren't necessarily a #1 seed. Lunardi isn't the committee. Joe says they are SO SOLID at a #1 seed, but I say let's wait and see. They are SUPPOSED to take into account injuries and players not playing for whatever reason. Wisky wins out, I think they have a good shot at a #1.
 

new era cat

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...well maybe if Nova loses their first game in their tourney, Wisc will go down South if they win out.
 
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Good. I want them as our 2 seed. They will loose just like everyone before them. The Cats will simply send them home and say who's next!!!!!!!!
 

new era cat

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Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:

Originally posted by new era cat:
The way I see it, three is no scenario that moves Wisconsin from our region unless Arizona loses.
If anyone has something else I am all ears.
I think if Virginia loses before the finals of the ACC tournament, they they aren't necessarily a #1 seed. Lunardi isn't the committee. Joe says they are SO SOLID at a #1 seed, but I say let's wait and see. They are SUPPOSED to take into account injuries and players not playing for whatever reason. Wisky wins out, I think they have a good shot at a #1.
They would just be the 2 seed in the East region then. Geography....
 

Goingfor9

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No one knows until selection Sunday. There will be a movement to keep them off our bracket this week.
 

Waterview Catfan

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Reading this board makes me think at least half on here think Wisconsin would win if we faced them as our 2. Wonder how that would change if they were sent elsewhere, and we met in the final 4?
 

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Lunardi is right unfortunately. If you read all the various NCAA representative media reports they are going to consider Geography as a major influence (and there was a post earlier today where they said they might address that issue in the future). It is criminal to me because neither Wisconsin or Kentucky deserve to face each other until the final four. But, be realistic the NCAA is about money and they are going to have venues where fan interest is the highest and can attend games in their region when possible.

I don't understand why Kansas isn't our 2 seed (assuming they win their tourney) because they are in the region but oh well. Of course ideally we would have Gonzaga as they likely are the weakest 2 seed but it would be a fun match-up with Wiltjer. Also, as confident as we all are, all it takes is one bad game and you are out. So, no guarantee that either Kentucky or Wisconsin make it to the final 8.
 

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I don't sweat Wisconsin. We beat em last year, and this years team is much deeper, and better than last year. Kaminski was neutralized last year, to the tune of 8 points and 5 boards. We"ll be there in the Elite 8, and there's no guarantee that Wiscy will. If they are, well that sucks for them. If Dukes defense can hold em to 40% shooting then we should hold em to about 35%.
 

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So Wisconsin will not go to the final four. Maybe next year. Great team they should complain.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Originally posted by new era cat:
The way I see it, three is no scenario that moves Wisconsin from our region unless Arizona loses.
If anyone has something else I am all ears.
Villanova losing might open the door for Wisconsin. I don't think Arizona has proven to be a better candidate for the #1 seed than Wisconsin at this point.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Originally posted by Waterview Catfan:
Reading this board makes me think at least half on here think Wisconsin would win if we faced them as our 2. Wonder how that would change if they were sent elsewhere, and we met in the final 4?
I think it's more along the lines of Kentucky fans wanting to face the minimum amount of teams from the Duke/Arizona/Wisconsin/Virginia quartet, and I don't that's unreasonable.
 
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Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:
Originally posted by new era cat:
The way I see it, three is no scenario that moves Wisconsin from our region unless Arizona loses.
If anyone has something else I am all ears.
Villanova losing might open the door for Wisconsin. I don't think Arizona has proven to be a better candidate for the #1 seed than Wisconsin at this point.
I don't see Nova losing in the Big Least tourney. Maybe if Duke or Virginia lose early in the ACC tourney Quarters or maybe even Semis and Wisconsin wins their tourney.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Originally posted by JerseyCat84:

Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:

Originally posted by new era cat:
The way I see it, three is no scenario that moves Wisconsin from our region unless Arizona loses.
If anyone has something else I am all ears.
Villanova losing might open the door for Wisconsin. I don't think Arizona has proven to be a better candidate for the #1 seed than Wisconsin at this point.
I don't see Nova losing in the Big Least tourney. Maybe if Duke or Virginia lose early in the ACC tourney Quarters or maybe even Semis and Wisconsin wins their tourney.
The committee might value Wisconsin winning out over Arizona or Villanova winning out. There's usually a few surprises on selection Sunday.
 

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Uk78...I respectfully disagree....yes the NCAA is about money, but they don't really get big money from actual ticket sales, but rather TV, etc.

Your premise that the reason we might get Wisc, the s trinkets 2 seed as it sits now, due to money I think is incorrect if based upon ticket sales at that regional.

I don't really agree or understand while all of a sudden, seeds don't matter over location and travel. If that's the case why are they bothering to spend an inordinate time on developing seeds in the first place.

Go Cats.
 

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Why does everyone worry about where Lunardi has anyone lol. The guy was the jest to start Bracketology so he is considered the guru when he does not have to make any hard decisions other than maybe 4 teams...everything else is pretty much a given.

Also the guy is horrible at predicting seeds. If he says Wisconsin #2 in our region I'm guessing that won't happen lol.
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Son_Of_Saul

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Originally posted by UPSCat4080:
Why does everyone worry about where Lunardi has anyone lol. The guy was the jest to start Bracketology so he is considered the guru when he does not have to make any hard decisions other than maybe 4 teams...everything else is pretty much a given.

Also the guy is horrible at predicting seeds. If he says Wisconsin #2 in our region I'm guessing that won't happen lol.

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This.


Wisconsin might be the 4th 1 seed already for all we know. They're 28-3 with two forgivable losses and another loss without Kaminsky.


They have a better resume then Villanova and Arizona. Not sure why everyone is assuming they're a 2 seed already.
 

mcwildcats04

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ACC tourney has their title game on Saturday. If UVA loses at any point and Wisconsin wins out, I think Wisconsin jumps them. Committee gotta take into account Anderson uncertainty.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Originally posted by mcwildcats04:
ACC tourney has their title game on Saturday. If UVA loses at any point and Wisconsin wins out, I think Wisconsin jumps them. Committee gotta take into account Anderson uncertainty.
I believe Wisconsin has already jumped Villanova with today's win at Ohio State.
 

kentuckyrld

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They will use geography as long as it gives them the matchups they want. If it doesn't then you will hear them make an announcement that they are no longer using geography but will use a different method that gives them the matchups they want. However, you are being silly if you think that any method they use will be fair. Not going to happen.
 

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The funny part is that if Kaminsky went down tomorrow, Kentucky would be the LAST team to draw Wisconsin..
 

Aike

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I also tend to think that Wisconsin is a 1 right now. I think people were quick to move Villanova up after Wisconsin lost to Maryland, but it isn't a poll. They look at the whole body of work, and Wisconsin's still merits a 1, imo.
 

MegaBlue05

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Why are we shitting ourselves over Wisconsin?

They're a good basketball team, but all the discipline (code for white guys) in the world can't prepare them for our size, depth and athleticism.

I think they could give us a game, but I don't fear them.
 

KyFaninNC

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Don't matter who our #2 seed is. When you get to that point,you will have to play good teams. I can bet you that Wisky fears us more than we fear them. Wisconsin does not bother me at all.
 

wild mandu

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In fairness to Lunardi (ugh) I haven't seen a single bracket that's worth a damn who says Wisconsin is a 1 seed over Villanova.

Somebody posted a ranking of bracketologists the other day. Every top one that I looked at had Wisconsin as a 2. When they lost to Maryland, it killed their chances for a 1 unless Villanova explodes in the BE tournament.

A 2 across the board
 

UKWildcats#8

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It's unfortunate...because if Jackson does not get hurt Wisconsin has 1 loss at present IMO.

I was hoping he would return for them in some capacity next weekend at the Big Ten Tourney, but that is not going to happen. That hurts Wisconsin as well IMO.
 

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Originally posted by Aike:
I also tend to think that Wisconsin is a 1 right now. I think people were quick to move Villanova up after Wisconsin lost to Maryland, but it isn't a poll. They look at the whole body of work, and Wisconsin's still merits a 1, imo.
Explain that body of work...

Team A Top 25 games = 2-2
Team B Top 25 games = 6-1
 

Aike

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Originally posted by kmill14:

Originally posted by Aike:
I also tend to think that Wisconsin is a 1 right now. I think people were quick to move Villanova up after Wisconsin lost to Maryland, but it isn't a poll. They look at the whole body of work, and Wisconsin's still merits a 1, imo.
Explain that body of work...

Team A Top 25 games = 2-2
Team B Top 25 games = 6-1
By Sagarin, Wisconsin is 5-2 right now vs. top 25. Villanova is 3-1.

Wisconsin is 4th in Kenpom, 4th in Sagarin, and 3rd in BPI. They won their conference. Their only bad loss was with their best player out.

I don't think it is hard at all to justify Wisconsin as a one seed. Several teams are close, and we are definitely splitting hairs. But there is a weird groupthink going on that Wisconsin can't be a 1.

Is it all about RPI? Really?

It's like we're all saying, "Yeah, RPI sucks but we know the committee uses it. Other, more trustworthy measures show that Wisconsin is better and deserving of a one, but we're going to assume that the committee is going to strictly use the most garbage measure possible."
 

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Villanova averages 11 made 3's a game....they rely on the 3 even more than Duke.....they should win their conference tournament but anytime you rely that heavily on long distance shooting there remains a serious chance of a cold shooting night and an upset in their 3 games in the Big East tournament.
 
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Originally posted by wild mandu:
In fairness to Lunardi (ugh) I haven't seen a single bracket that's worth a damn who says Wisconsin is a 1 seed over Villanova.

Somebody posted a ranking of bracketologists the other day. Every top one that I looked at had Wisconsin as a 2. When they lost to Maryland, it killed their chances for a 1 unless Villanova explodes in the BE tournament.
which is ridiculous, Maryland is a top 10 team

and one of Wisconsin's losses was without Kaminsky, and they lost another starter during the game