M. Stoops WILL git ur done!
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Then you're completely unrealistic and Stoops will fail to meet your standards no matter what.
You don't think they feel that way about UK, you are kidding yourself. Why is that?
so it's unrealistic for the state university in the SEC, UK , to beat a city college within their own state in football?
Please explain to me why a city college has a better football program than the state university right now?
I will never "accept" that UL should have a better football team than UK. It is a complete failure of Mitch Barnhart.
What Stoops brother are we talking about here? The last time I checked Mike Stoops was at Oklahoma (Big 12) and Mark Stoops at UK (SEC ).Agree?
You are completely missing what I'm saying. This thread is talking about Mark Stoops and his ability to get it done as a coach. If you're going to hold Barnhart and this programs against him then fire him now. UofL right now has a better program than we do and that isn't Stoops fault. He's getting us there but to act as if he should just show up and magically start beating Louisville is ignorant.
It's not about how someone feels. It's about the reality of where these two programs are. We are getting back to where we will start taking some games from them but until that happens you're insane to just sit here and say we "should" win that game. I hate UofL but they have talented program right now.
Let me go at this differently... not too long ago otis was seriously considering dropping fb, but then a visionary ad hired a guy named Howard Schnellenberger-a guy UK ads passed on TWICE-and today despite being in the best conference in the country their fb program is in better shape than UK's despite hiring one of the biggest scumbags in the country as HC. Now every otis fan I know "expects" them beat UK. I think that is a disgrace and I'm one person who will NEVER think we shouldn't be beating them every year. That is just me and I'm not changing.
It is not just MB's fault ...don't know old you are, but this is much more the fault of two bb Ad's Cliff Hagan and CM (get his name off the stadium) Newton.
Sorry, I guess we think more alike than I thought, but my premise is it should never have gotten to this. Please tell me where else in the sec or the country for that matter, does this occur where the start university dosen't have the best program
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I would give you that one and for the moment Texas, SC, Mass.,and that would about be it?
UL has consistently had a better program than UK going on 25 years now. The only exceptions are the two times UL had really bad coaches in Cooper and Kragthorpe. Although I believe Cooper had a winning record vs. UK. This fact isn't really an impressive achievement by UL, it is more of a testament of just how bad UK allows its football program to be. Of course, that goes back about 60 years.
I will say this. Ever since Schnellenberger arrived at UL over 30 years ago, UL as a whole just tries harder at being good at football. That might make some mad, but it is the truth.
I will say this. Ever since Schnellenberger arrived at UL over 30 years ago, UL as a whole just tries harder at being good at football. That might make some mad, but it is the truth.
Remember when Gov John Y Brown pushed for UK to hire a pretty famous and successful former NFL coach and the AD, maybe Hagen passed on him? can't remember the coaches name?It'searly in the morning but I think I remember now ,, was his name Allen? Not sure.
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Does UL have better facilities than us, better recruiting classes? Please explain why they're better other than coaching.
Focus for one. Just look at the threads on this forum page. How many are about other programs, players that transferred or other topics not related to UK football.
It baffles me that we are having this discussing in a thread were the OP;
1. Have a thread title with numerous spelling mistakes
2. Have a logo with the wrong UK color
3. Have a question that says "The next Big12 champ"
When we as fans cannot stay focused even in a forum like this, how in the h..l do you expect the university to keep focus and develop a football program? Blame the university, blame the AD, blame the coaches (past and present), but without a fan base that WANTS it over time, nothing will ever change. When UK fills CWS on a consistent basis even against cupcakes, that's when we will move on.
Yeah that whole OP logo thing to me is just a play on Kansas State(Big 12 and the color) I really do not understand the intent though
Ok, I guess I'll explain this again. This thread is talking about Mark Stoops getting it done and people are acting like in the time that Stoops has been here and even next year that UofL should be a win for us. In Stoops' time here we have been trying to rise up from being about as bad as we have ever been and UofL is going through the greatest stretch in their program's history. If you want to say that Our program shouldn't have ever been allowed to dip to this point then I'm in complete agreement, but people that are saying we should be beating UofL right now with the current states of the programs are ridiculous. You can't hold a history of ineptitude against CMS.
There are a ton of states where the best team isn't the state University. I saw where you and others have mentioned quite a few but you can go ahead and throw California, Michigan, and Florida in there. Trust me I'm not excusing what our program has done in the past. Im just think we have a whole lot going on for us right now and we are finally seeing real money put towards this program and we finally have a coach that can bring in some really talented players. IMO, if Stoops is not here 2 years from now then we have just thrown in the white flag.
What should be happening vs. what will happen are two different things. UL will be considerably better than UK next year. I expect their win streak vs. UK to continue.
Duke has been better than UNC the past few years, although probably not this year. UNC is in most of the pre season top 25 rankings. The op is a Kansas State Wildcats fan, which is another state where the state team is not the best. Kansas is awful at football. Really awful.
Duke was not better than UNC last year and wont be this year either. Terrible take.
Virginia Tech has beaten Virginia 16 out of the last 17 times.
California has so many schools, who actually is the "state" school? I don't think it is USC. Isn't South Carolina the state school? If so Clemson has a big edge in that football rivalry. There is no dominant school in Florida. Is UF the actual state school? Either way, FSU, Miami and UF keep taking turns being the dominant school. UM has the most titles and total title game appearances.
It just varies from state to state. Howard was such a visionary and is such a great builder of programs that he instilled that vision of being great at football. They've been trying to strive for that ever since he got here. I don't think UK has really ever cared that much about it from the leaders of the university. Post Howard, I believe Louisville has been more serious about being a football school than Kentucky has. Even now, I don't believe they really care deep down, they are just responding to Louisville's success so they feel they need to do something. If Louisville weren't applying the external pressure to not be surpassed than I don't think they'd care too strongly that football wasn't competing in the SEC. Many fans do but not those in power to allocate resources.
Doesn't really matter. South Carolina beat UNC last year. So you can argue that because UNC beat Duke that South Carolina is better than UNC and that puts UK ahead of them all. SO your take is flawed.
LOL
The guy said Duke was better than UNC.....
North Carolina played in the ACC Championship and won 11 games (while trouncing Duke).......once again terrible take and my take is not flawed.
The guy said Duke was better than UNC.....
North Carolina played in the ACC Championship and won 11 games (while trouncing Duke).......once again terrible take and my take is not flawed.
They lost to South Carolina, AND played a cupcake schedule. So again Doesn't Matter.
They also steamrolled Duke and won their division earning a berth in the Conference title game. I am pretty sure that = better season than Duke, which the guy said wasn't true.
Having a hard time following?
Having a hard time following?
I believe you're the "guy" having a hard time following. I couldn't give two F's about either team. My post, that your powder blue troll ars, failed to follow, suggests that because University of No Class bested Dike this season some how gives them some kinda football cred. You're totally dodging the fact that unc still lost to USC at home. I really no one gives a crap about the Atlantic Cupcake Conference. Or UNCs record in it. Again UNC lost to USC at home, USC is at the bottom of the SEC. So that makes your conference game garbage! Go back to Franklin street and be sure to use the correct bathroom!
First off you nimrod, I am a Kentucky fan and have posted on this board for years.
WGAFF they lost to USC. They ran off 11 straight wins after that and beat DUKE by a trillion on their way to the conference title game.
Once again they had a much better than season than DUKE..Kentucky, or Louisville.
Try to keep up.
WGAFF they lost to USC. They ran off 11 straight wins after that and beat DUKE by a trillion on their way to the conference title game.
Once again they had a much better than season than DUKE..Kentucky, or Louisville.
Try to keep up.
Fwiw, I got to shake Trey Smith's hand yesterday and asked if he'd heard from Mark Stoops. He said yeah. But then he's recruited by everyone. *Captain Obvious
At least Coach Stoops is doing due diligence.
That's where I'm at. There will either be demonstrable progress this year or there won't.