Malachi Moreno last night

megablue

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Assuming Garrison starts and Pope does not pick up an experienced big through the portal, how effective do folks think Moreno can be against quality competition next year ?? Is he ready to step up to that level of play ??
 

LineSkiCat14

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Assuming Garrison starts and Pope does not pick up an experienced big through the portal, how effective do folks think Moreno can be against quality competition next year ?? Is he ready to step up to that level of play ??


Going to be tough to expect much from freshman who aren't phenoms. I have to imagine we're going to have at least one more experienced big. I don't really have a grasp on who we can expect back. But if all that's there is Garrison and Moreno (who imagine is maybe more of a PF/C hybrid), then we're going to have some room for a true center, or even a backup center we can use in a pinch.
 

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Going to be tough to expect much from freshman who aren't phenoms. I have to imagine we're going to have at least one more experienced big. I don't really have a grasp on who we can expect back. But if all that's there is Garrison and Moreno (who imagine is maybe more of a PF/C hybrid), then we're going to have some room for a true center, or even a backup center we can use in a pinch.
Yup. Need an experienced 'street fighter' inside.
 

bnewt

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yes he will need to improve his strength and quickness
needs to spend all summer with the strength coach & getting up shots
he could be pretty good in a year or so
 
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This dude is an excellent prospect. I think we need 2 at every position, plus combos. One that can play some 2g and pg. And one that is big enough to play some center and pf. They don't have to be world beaters. Look how bad we are without a decent 3rd string pg. We can't defend the spot or run the offense and it is killing us.
 

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How do people know who will be a project 🤔. I do agree that it is probably best to assume very little production from high schoolers. Definitely can gauge transfers much better.
 
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Assuming Garrison starts and Pope does not pick up an experienced big through the portal, how effective do folks think Moreno can be against quality competition next year ?? Is he ready to step up to that level of play ??
Assuming it's Garrison and him at the 5, I would hope we go after some beefy 4's in the portal. Garrison isn't the most physical big out there and Moreno is going to be a skinny freshman. I think Pope's seen firsthand this season just how physical the SEC is, and knows that's an area for improvement
 

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Moreno is not as skinny as a lot of 7 foot high schoolers. He doesn't need to add a lot of weight, just muscle. He can handle the ball, but I have yet to see a highlight of him hitting a shot more than 5 feet from the basket. Then again, Amari Williams has only attempted one 3 pointer on the season. So 3 point shooting ability doesn't seem necessary at that position in Pope's offense. I think he is much more ready to play right away than any of this year's freshmen.
 

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I hope he is phenomenal here. However, just speaking about this video... it looks like he's playing against jr. high kids. Very low level of talent for the other team.
I hope he is phenomenal here. However, just speaking about this video... it looks like he's playing against jr. high kids. Very low level of talent for the other team.
The Franklin County HS talent pool has declined drastically since the days when Johnny Lykins was the coach.
 

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Walked past him at Rupp on Saturday. Legit 7’0-7’1. Has the frame to put on muscle.
Yeah, Moreno's height is listed all over the place - from 6'10" to 7'1." But seeing him, he's a legit 7-footer. Also to your point, he definitely has a frame (broad shoulders) to put on muscle and he isn't skinny now. Being that Moreno is still a high school kid he still has maturing to do, but I don't see calling him skinny in comparison to most high school Bigs.
 

EliteBlue

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I don't understand kids that are thought of highly not hitting the weight room
15 lbs will do wonders to a 17 year old
A lot of it is lack of nutritional info and weight training guidance.

Eating as a family often means eating the same portions as your non-athlete, slow metabolism, 40+ year old parents. With the amount of exertion in basketball, a 17 year old his height would need 4000 daily TDEE calories to just maintain weight, much less gain it.

You get the occasional freak like Zion or LeBron. Or you get the severely overweight from junk food and bad diets. But most 6’8+ 16-17 year olds aren’t getting enough nutrition and sure as heck aren’t getting 1-1.2 grams of protein per goal body weight. Only the gym bro HS body builder types are actively researching and trying to hit goal macros at that age
 

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Assuming Garrison starts and Pope does not pick up an experienced big through the portal, how effective do folks think Moreno can be against quality competition next year ?? Is he ready to step up to that level of play ??
No. But I think he could play the 4 or the 5.
 

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Assuming Garrison starts and Pope does not pick up an experienced big through the portal, how effective do folks think Moreno can be against quality competition next year ?? Is he ready to step up to that level of play ??
Less effective than Garrison is this year.
 

Stretch98_rivals101536

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A lot of it is lack of nutritional info and weight training guidance.

Eating as a family often means eating the same portions as your non-athlete, slow metabolism, 40+ year old parents. With the amount of exertion in basketball, a 17 year old his height would need 4000 daily TDEE calories to just maintain weight, much less gain it.

You get the occasional freak like Zion or LeBron. Or you get the severely overweight from junk food and bad diets. But most 6’8+ 16-17 year olds aren’t getting enough nutrition and sure as heck aren’t getting 1-1.2 grams of protein per goal body weight. Only the gym bro HS body builder types are actively researching and trying to hit goal macros at that age
Very thoughtful and perceptive post. I have been around trainer types who are reluctant to implement advanced weight training principles with young athletes who have had significant recent growth. Their emphasis is more on stretching, agility and higher reps with lighter weights. Moreno's growth should be leveled off now and his body should be prepared to ramp up his training regimen. It will help that he is in Scott County, a stone's throw from UK's training facilities, strength and conditioning staff and nutrition experts. I expect him to be bigger and stronger by the beginning of next season.
 
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He will have to put on a lot of weight to be effective in the SEC. Looks like he could be a better version of Amari Williams if Pope wanted to use him that way. Hope he stays 2-3 years and we get to see the mature version of his talent. Still want to see him hit a mid-range jumper.

This. The level of physicality the sec allows on the boards is insane.