From day 1 everyone figure Manafort would be in trouble. Where has he gotten exactly?
Manafort filing??
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Either we are getting a clearer picture of Russian election manipulation that includes a candidate, or we are getting a clearer picture of a network of foreign agents that have manipulated our intelligence networks and former Presidents/ Secretary of States. No?
I dont think we have a clearer pucture of either unless you simply didnt think those things occured prior to Muellers investigation. To me that would have been naive.
When we were wondering if Mueller would end up getting much deeper than Manafort and Flynn.
Wow, no. That's not what I see at all.
I see Russia making a half-assed attempt at online manipulation (Democrats are better at it).
I then see several western intel assets attempting to trap Trump officials, and it looks like Deripaska was very successful with Manafort. Otherwise they flailed. They came close with PapaD, but he didn't bring the money back home to the airport like he was supposed to.
You should ask Strzok about that, it was his text message.
Edit - Oh darn, him, and everyone that would be in his circle of society friends that were secret has been fired, retired, or demoted.
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Foriegn agents are trying to manipulate our intel networks? Sounds like it would make a great TV series. Call it Amerikans.
It's the opposite. Our intelligence network was directing foreign assets, imo.
PapaD is the perfect example. Closes a "deal", accepts the cash. Drops said cash in England rather than taking it home. Feds corralled him at the DC airport, but he didn't have the cash Charles Tawil(Israeli/US citizen, CIA asset) gave him.
Jeez....is that not what the Steele- Manafort - Gates - Podesta - McCain dossier that launched an FBI and Congressional investigations over nothing concrete at all did?
So Papa D, Gates, Manafort, and everyone in the IC are actively working to protect the Clinton Dynasty and the Democratic / globalist control over the world?
Got him nowfeeding polling information (while campaign chairman) to a Russian associated with Russian intelligence?
No biggie, I guess?
No, wrong names, and different motivations everywhere. At the least, Flynn, Page, PapaD, and Manafort were targets of the assets. I don't know about Gates or others.
Yes but is this something shocking? Mccain hated Trump and wanted to destroy him. Instead he died.
I do not know the answer to that question.
It seems, at the least, unusual for the U.S. Supreme Court to handle a case with such secrecy. I am not a USSC lawyer, so i may be wrong, but it sure seems out of the ordinary from what i have seen. Speculating, i would guess there must be some very pronounced national security issues involved for this level of secrecy at the District Court hearing, and then at the Supreme Court. Like i've said before, i don't know if the Mueller investigation will uncover criminal conduct or just expose the ugly underbelly of politics of both parties, but it sure as hell is entertaining.
Secret hearings, clearing out an entire floor of a federal courthouse, hiding the identity of participants even entering or exiting the courthouse, the U.S. Supreme Court not revealing names, and the U.S. Supreme Court voting without any dissent to allow a fine of $50,000 per day against this unnamed company owned by an unnamed foreign government? I'm definitely curious.
Pretty much agree with this.
One has to wonder just how huge this is to keep it secret. For all of the reasons you said but the fact that nobody even knows the target or the company seems big.
I almost think it has to be a tech company, because of the request and the size of the fine. And of those, believe it or not, Microsoft is the most pro-privacy.
The anonymous company is owned by a foreign country, I thought? My first guess was a cell phone company or something techy (China). Quick googling seems to suggest most* people think it's a financial company (bank, wealth management fund) from Russia or ME.
What about that Chinese cell phone company that was banned from our troops in 2017 or 2018?
Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. (/ˈhwɑːˌweɪ/; Chinese: 华为; pinyin:
Huáwéi) is a Chinese multinational conglomerate which specialises in telecommunications equipment, consumer electronics, artificial intelligence and technology-based services and products, headquartered in Shenzhen, Guangdong.Huawei has deployed its products and services in more than 170 countries, and as of 2011 it served 45 of the 50 largest telecomoperators.[3][need quotation to verify] Huawei overtook Ericsson in 2012 as the largest telecommunications-equipment manufacturer in the world,[4] and overtook Apple in 2018 as the second-largest manufacturer of smartphones in the world, behind Samsung Electronics.[5] It ranks 72nd on the Fortune Global 500 list.[6]
Ren Zhengfei, a former engineer in the People's Liberation Army, founded Huawei in 1987. At the time of its establishment, Huawei focused on manufacturing phone switches, but has since expanded to include building telecommunications networks, providing operational and consulting services and equipment to enterprises inside and outside of China, and manufacturing communications devices for the consumer market.[7][8]Huawei had over 170,000 employees as of September 2017, around 76,000 of them engaged in research and development (R&D).[9][10] It has 21 R&D institutes in countries including China, the United States,[11] Canada,[12] the United Kingdom,[13] Pakistan, Finland, France, Belgium, Germany, Colombia, Sweden, Ireland, India,[14] Russia, Israel, and Turkey.[15][16] As of 2017 the company invested US$13.8 billion in R&D, up from US$5 billion in 2013.[17][18]
The company will dedicate 20-30 percent of R&D funding to basic science research, up from its previous 10 percent, and increase R&D funding to at least US$15 billion annually, according to the official company statement in November 2018. CNBC reported that Huawei's revenue in 2018 will exceed 100 billion US dollars for the first time.[19]
Although successful internationally, Huawei has faced difficulties and cybersecurity concerns selling in some markets (such as the United States), over allegations that its equipment may contain backdoors that could enable unauthorized surveillance by the Chinese government and by the People's Liberation Army (citing, in particular, its founder having previously worked for the Army). While the company has argued that its products posed "no greater cybersecurity risk" than those of any other vendors, Huawei stated in April 2018 that it would largely pull out of the U.S. market, due to the scrutiny having impacted its activity. Huawei's Vice-chairperson and CFO Meng Wanzhou was arrested in Canada on December 1, 2018, at the request of the United States, which accuses her of violating US sanctions against Iran.[20]
So an unnamed source is being compelled to testify or provide documents under subpoena? I'm not following the story, so I genuinely asking.
Oh. Possibly. But I don't think a US prosecutor and court system would consider a private US company on a US stock exchange to be owned by a foreign country?
Eh, foreign owned... well crap. They have to have a large presence here though, right?
I don't see it being Alfa Bank, or something like that.
WASHINGTON — The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday refused to block fines against a foreign-owned company that refuses to comply with a subpoena, apparently from special counsel Robert Mueller's prosecutors, to testify before a federal grand jury.
The identity of the company and the name of the country where it's based are unknown, because virtually all the legal documents are under seal.
The courthouse mystery began to unfold last summer when the company — identified only as a corporation owned by country A — resisted a grand jury subpoena, arguing that it's beyond the reach of U.S. law. But the company was found in contempt of court for refusing to comply and was ordered to pay a fine for every day it resisted.
The company appealed to the Supreme Court, and Chief Justice John Roberts put everything on hold in late December, including the fine of $50,000 a day. But Tuesday, in a brief unsigned order, the court lifted that stay, denying the company's request to block the fine.
It's impossible to tell, from the few public documents, who issued the subpoena. But it presumably involves Mueller's investigation, based on observing the lawyers, including some from his team.
The federal courthouse in Washington where the fight began went to unusual lengths to keep it secret, ordering reporters off an entire floor on a day when lawyers for both sides appeared in court.