Mankind The Last 5,000 Years

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(Let me start off by saying this is long and just something I was thinking about after watching a movie and not being able to sleep.)

I was just thinking about how far mankind has advanced in a relatively short time. I believe early modern man showed up about 200,000 years ago, but we didn't really start making huge strides until about 10,000 years ago. I believe that is when agriculture took off and human civilizations started shortly after. So pretty much in only 5% of our existence as a species we've created things like agriculture, domestication of animals, writing, government, fabrication with metals, medicine, science, industry, religion, technology, advanced forms of travel, and space flight to name a handful off the top of my head. Most of that probably took place in the last 5,000 years.

Let's say someone visited us around 2,950 BC when the pyramids were being built.

There are people that believe those beings might be responsible for the construction of the pyramids. So after seeing where we are as a civilization, they leave and go back to their home world. If they were to come back 5,000 years later (in about 33 years), do you think they would be impressed with how far we have come in that time?

We've come a long way, but where would we be if not for all of the wars throughout history that were fought over things like religion, territory, trade routes, and politics? Would we have worked together to solve problems and speed up our advancements without it? Possibly, but then look at how fast technology increased due to those wars. Communication, shipping, travel, medicine, entertainment, energy, computers, and space flight are all things that have advanced from war and because of that war is probably a necessary evil.

So what do you all think about where we are today compared to a few thousand years ago? Do you think we are behind or ahead of schedule or about right where we should be? I just wish space travel had advanced more in my lifetime. I always said that before I die I would like to travel to space. Unless I win the Powerball, I don't see that happening.

My long rambling post is officially over. Maybe I can fall back to sleep now.
 

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I'd say that in some things we're ahead and some behind. Let's look at technologies especially with aspects like the military. In a relatively short time we've gone from sharpened sticks and throwing rocks to the ability to have a teenager use a joystick to control a flying robot which can pinpoint place a high grade explosive from miles away up Isis' a$$ while a handful of political a-holes watch the hole thing on TV 6,000 miles away from a feed from a satellite that's orbiting the Earth 50 mikes up in the air and traveling 1,000 miles an hr.

Speaking of things we're behind in. Social politics. Political a-holes are still struggling with some of the same stuff that tribal leaders struggled with thousands of yrs ago. And probably pulling the same underhanded tricks as well.

Then look regionally around the globe. The US has an abundance of food sources....so much so that most it's people are overweight. While some countries still have widespread famine. One could argue that the famines country hasn't advance just as one could argue that the US hasn't advanced enough to help globally.

And what about just the physical man? During the Civil War the average soldier in the Union Army (men aged 16-40) was 5'5" tall and weighed about #130. In just 150 yrs the average American male in much taller and heavier. And then factor in lifespan, etc, and things get interesting.

I can see where you're coming from.
 

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Your dating of the pyramids is way off. The water erosion at the bottom of the Sphynx indicates that the pyramids are at least 12K years old.















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Your dating of the pyramids is way off. The water erosion at the bottom of the Sphynx indicates that the pyramids are at least 12K years old.
aw ********. the earth is only about 6000 years old, how the hell is the syphnx 12000? do the math.














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Once agriculture happened the rest snowballed and will continue to at ever increasing rates of efficiency which can be observed, measured and accurately predicted.

Or aliens.
 

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downw/ball-lineD
Graham Hancock is probably the best source of Egyptian history. The reason it dates it because it lines up with the last great flood there which was about 12K years ago. Now I may be off a bit on Hancock's research, but he's the mf'ing man.
 

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I think the progress is self-limiting. But the birth rates in developed countries is slowing down and won't be able to keep up with the number of deaths. Meanwhile, birthrates in undeveloped countries continues to climb. Eventually, we won't be able to support all the people that have been bred. Either technological progress will slow, and eventually decline or it will find a way to advance and allow more of the poor dumb masses to continue.
 

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downw/ball-lineD
Graham Hancock is probably the best source of Egyptian history. The reason it dates it because it lines up with the last great flood there which was about 12K years ago. Now I may be off a bit on Hancock's research, but he's the mf'ing man.
I'd have Graham Hancock's love child, theoretically anyway.
 
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Your dating of the pyramids is way off. The water erosion at the bottom of the Sphynx indicates that the pyramids are at least 12K years old.















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I was just going by the info I could find on the internet and the consensus seemed to be that they were built over I believe an 80 year period in the 2900's BC. This was supposedly figured out with carbon dating.

I appreciate the discussion by everyone. Even funKYcat75.
 

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I was just going by the info I could find on the internet and the consensus seemed to be that they were built over I believe an 80 year period in the 2900's BC. This was supposedly figured out with carbon dating.

I appreciate the discussion by everyone. Even funKYcat75.
Consensus is wrong because it doesn't explain the other evidence. I mean I guess we can disregard evidence to fit our narrative. That would make sense with the world we live in these days. Look man, I just want to be anal probed by alien technology and not the primitive man made stuff.
 

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Consensus is wrong because it doesn't explain the other evidence. I mean I guess we can disregard evidence to fit our narrative. That would make sense with the world we live in these days. Look man, I just want to be anal probed by alien technology and not the primitive man made stuff.

 

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There was something graham Hancock was
Proven correct on in the last six months or so. I just can't recall what. It was real
And awesome.
 

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There was something graham Hancock was
Proven correct on in the last six months or so. I just can't recall what. It was real
And awesome.
I think an archaeologist found God's fingerprint in some cave in Basra.
 
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Technological progress is exponential growth. Look at the progress of the past 150 years - it's greater than the 1500 before it. Each big jump (agriculture, metallurgy, steam power, electricity, computing, etc.) allows for more specialization of labor and more rapid progress as we are able to turn our new knowledge and tools toward even more knowledge and tools.
 

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The median value of predictions regarding the year we achieve technological singularity is at 2040 as of 2012.

Once that occurs, we quickly become a Type I civilization.

Just have to stay alive until then. Gonna be lit bros!
 

argubs2

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I mean ****, we already have Dyson Spheres so I don't know what the hold up is.

 

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Look at how far the world has advanced in the last 100 years. We have seen such a huge leap in technology, whether it be in modern warfare (beginning with WWI and look how far we have advanced 100 years later from that) and computers and computer related technology in the last 20-25 years from the early models. The jump from early days of radio and tv to what we have now. Things are picking up in speed or so it appears for the world in terms of developing more and more. Do we hit a ceiling on technology soon or does it keep rapid fire developing?
 

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http://www.usu.edu/geo/luminlab/whatis.html







What is OSL?
OSL is an acronym for Optically-Stimulated Luminescence.

Optically-Stimulated Luminescence is a late Quaternary dating technique used to date the last time quartz sediment was exposed to light. As sediment is transported by wind, water, or ice, it is exposed to sunlight and zeroed of any previous luminescence signal. Once this sediment is deposited and subsequently buried, it is removed from light and is exposed to low levels of natural radiation in the surrounding sediment. Through geologic time, quartz minerals accumulate a luminescence signal as ionizing radiation excites electrons within parent nuclei in the crystal lattice. A certain percent of the freed electrons become trapped in defects or holes in the crystal lattice of the quartz sand grain (referred to as luminescent centers) and accumulate over time (Aitken, 1998).
 
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I think the progress is self-limiting. But the birth rates in developed countries is slowing down and won't be able to keep up with the number of deaths. Meanwhile, birthrates in undeveloped countries continues to climb. Eventually, we won't be able to support all the people that have been bred. Either technological progress will slow, and eventually decline or it will find a way to advance and allow more of the poor dumb masses to continue.

Yep. We're done for. Just a matter of time.

Malthusian event is all that will save our species
 

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I'd say that in some things we're ahead and some behind. Let's look at technologies especially with aspects like the military. In a relatively short time we've gone from sharpened sticks and throwing rocks to the ability to have a teenager use a joystick to control a flying robot which can pinpoint place a high grade explosive from miles away up Isis' a$$ while a handful of political a-holes watch the hole thing on TV 6,000 miles away from a feed from a satellite that's orbiting the Earth 50 mikes up in the air and traveling 1,000 miles an hr.

Speaking of things we're behind in. Social politics. Political a-holes are still struggling with some of the same stuff that tribal leaders struggled with thousands of yrs ago. And probably pulling the same underhanded tricks as well.

Then look regionally around the globe. The US has an abundance of food sources....so much so that most it's people are overweight. While some countries still have widespread famine. One could argue that the famines country hasn't advance just as one could argue that the US hasn't advanced enough to help globally.

And what about just the physical man? During the Civil War the average soldier in the Union Army (men aged 16-40) was 5'5" tall and weighed about #130. In just 150 yrs the average American male in much taller and heavier. And then factor in lifespan, etc, and things get interesting.

I can see where you're coming from.
ECO 101 - Production possibilities based on natural resources (land, labor, and capital).
Throw in rational self interest and free markets and boom.
 
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Soon as I get a driver less, self-parking car it'll be cream cheese. I don't give a **** what we accomplish after those things are out for mass consumption.














A cure for cancer would be cool too.
 

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I think the progress is self-limiting. But the birth rates in developed countries is slowing down and won't be able to keep up with the number of deaths. Meanwhile, birthrates in undeveloped countries continues to climb. Eventually, we won't be able to support all the people that have been bred. Either technological progress will slow, and eventually decline or it will find a way to advance and allow more of the poor dumb masses to continue.
I think those problems are being solved as we speak. Developed countries export economic opportunity to developing countries and import as many immigrants as possible. Then, in 25-50 years, the 2 superpowers (China and Russia) will divide the place up. And to think, we all saw it start with NAFTA. Where was Ross Perot when we needed him?
 

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VR realistic porn and dudes may stop doing anything productive with their lives.

You should see an episode of Darknet on Showtime. They are developing sex dolls with AI that are so good that you can barely distinguish them from a real woman. They can even be programmed to learn your habits and eccentricities. By the time these things hit the second or third generation, women will become obsolete.
 

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You can't trust someone who's that rich and wears the same damn Target outfit every.single.day. Wtf is he trying to fool?

women will become obsolete.

That's either gay as hell, or good as hell. Idk yet. Need more info.
 

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Just think how far ahead we'd be if religion didn't try to thwart science's progress for most of human existence.

But, I can't complain too much. I can fap nearly anywhere in the world while watching teh porn on my pocket computer that makes phone calls too.
 

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Technological progress is exponential growth. Look at the progress of the past 150 years - it's greater than the 1500 before it. Each big jump (agriculture, metallurgy, steam power, electricity, computing, etc.) allows for more specialization of labor and more rapid progress as we are able to turn our new knowledge and tools toward even more knowledge and tools.

I read an article recently that discussed this matter. It basically said that in the past it took around 50 years for technology to surpass the norm but at this point we are doing it about every 20 years. It predicted that in 10 years we would be making technological advances superior to that and in 20 years it may be as fast as every 6 months. Think about that ****