Joker was a terrible HC and recruiter for an HC (maybe he let someone else take lead, not sure), but the reason he has his current job is because of the way he left his last job. Meyer is doing him a favor. Kind of like UNC's coach tried to do for Illinois's old coach. He has to take baby steps before anyone would trust him with another job.
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Joker was a terrible HC and recruiter for an HC (maybe he let someone else take lead, not sure), but the reason he has his current job is because of the way he left his last job. Meyer is doing him a favor. Kind of like UNC's coach tried to do for Illinois's old coach. He has to take baby steps before anyone would trust him with another job.
I don't get Mason and the other "defensive" coaches that can't coach a lick of offense. I mean you study the offense in order to stop it right? They have to know what offense they would least like to play against and make that their offense. Over and over you see a coach from the defensive side of the ball fall totally flat on offense.
Do they just want to be like, "I'm so good on the D even my own team can't scrore"???
Do they just want to be like, "I'm so good on the D even my own team can't scrore"???
Is dead last in the SEC or 2nd to last sufficient? Do you people really believe the BS that comes out of your mouths? Joker was a terrible head coach but the true downfall started when we failed to capitalize on the success of 06-09 in recruiting.
Some team is going to hit jackpot when they make Mason their DC in a year or two.
He's one of the top in the league
You laugh at me? You've been posting nonsense and have been proven wrong countless times in this thread. I also need a freaking translator to figure out exactly what you're saying half the time. Keep laughing. Joke is on you.
I'm not sure what corner you think Mason is turning exactly. With the exception of a handful of recruits, Mason has been out recruiting Havard in its last 3 classes. After next year, Vandy will be night and day less talented than they are this year. Even if they have a decent year this year, they aren't going to bring in talent between no and the end of next year that will make them anywhere near as talented as they are this year.
And even with the talent they currently have, they are right there with UK, USC and Mizzpu as least talented in the SEC.
Lastly, next year you guys will have a bunch a good seniors but I bet you still take a step or two steps backwards without Butler, the senior corner and most likely Cunningham and Bowden leaving early. Just don't see the depth at all
Not to hijack the thread, but could any of you football guys enlighten me as to what Mitch's reasoning was on giving the reigns to joker? My personal opinion was that if it was open to the public uk could have gotten a sold, experienced coach to at least keep the bowls coming.
How many of you guys would support Mason being our DC? I would of Eliot cannot turn this D around.
Once again you're close Free. It's Firios. You and names are like watching a 3 year old with a coloring book . . . with the lights out and after they've been spun around 10 times.
I'm actually in agreement with him - the joke is definitely on you.
You act like people don't like Kash Daniel....it's insane to come from that perspective as a basis for your posts. You clearly weren't around this board when Kash committed to UK.
Also, Laster and Kash do NOT play the same position.
Kash is also 2nd string behind one of "dem small 10 transfers" Courtney Love. That's just a fact.
Let this silly Kash Daniel argument go - he is going to be a good one for UK and we are ALL in agreement about that here.
Appreciate it bean, another grammar genius. The real story is how does a true freshman beat out tne great experience ? From both sides nonetheless? You guys crack me up
with your superior intellect
Couple reasons why you're an idiot:
1) for some reason (bet we can guess) you keep completely ignoring the fact that we had been to several straight bowl games in a row, and a solid portion of the talent that had helped us reach that kind of success was still on the roster when joker took over.
2) our recruiting during the bowl years wasn't as bad as you make it seem. Did our classes set joker up to be competitive with the bigger programs in our conference without him having to lift so much as a finger? No. Was it good enough to expect beating 3 cupcakes and competing with our instate rival and one or two of the other bad teams in our conference? Well, duh.
3) Genius, IT WAS JOKERS JOB TO CAPITALIZE. This is true, even if we didn't do so as well as we should have prior to him taking over. No one here has come close to saying he inherited a full cupboard. What he DID (very clearly) have was a team with enough good pieces to make another bowl, and to help get his tenure off to a good start. That SHOULD have helped him continue the positive momentum into recruiting. Instead, it nosedived: he followed up his first year with a class ranked 66...and 67 in the year after.
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Here's what will happen, Ky will have a starting Mike backer from a 1A school from eastern Ky mid season which is crazy and then it will be oh man he's great and the same goes for Landon young although from Lexington but who cares when they perform because they were all Americans anyway, we knew they were great already. Then everybody can jump on right !
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This reminds me of Stoops extention, fans were clamoring for it at the time and the decision had a high approval rating. 2 years later in hindsight you guys claim to be experts and act like you were against it. Same with the hiring of Billy Gillespie.
Open to the public? There aren't enough facepalms for the stuff you guys say. He was a loyal assistant who was a good recruiting coordinator/WR coach and good OC who turned down better jobs at the time. He was made coach in waiting to keep him. It didn't work out but hindsight is 20/20, it was a terrible decision at the time.
This reminds me of Stoops extention, fans were clamoring for it at the time and the decision had a high approval rating. 2 years later in hindsight you guys claim to be experts and act like you were against it. Same with the hiring of Billy Gillespie.
1.Yeah, and he went to a bowl game with a solid portion of that talent.
2. Yeah, it was that bad, he inherited like 3 or 4 4 star players. Recruiting classes were ranked in the 40's and 50'said, and either last or 2nd to last in the SEC. You know, the teams we compete against.
3. Genius, I didn't say it wasn't his job to capitalize on past success. I just said he didn't inherit all this talent that you claimed he did. You're just simple and have comprehension issues.
...you're very clearly the one who has comprehension issues. I've said multiple times that he didn't inherit a fantastic amount of talent, but that he did inherit a roster capable of making a bowl game. I'm not sure how else I can say it to get it through your thick skull.
My original post was a response to someone comparing jokers and stoops W-L records through three years. In showing that looking solely at their records through year 3 without more context is a flawed approach, I said one coach inherited a better roster and had more recent program success to build on than the other. Why that point is sticking you in the *** so much is beyond me
BTW, being a basic ***** I know you can't really look and evaluate facts but there was a glitch in the rivals rankings those 2 years. Look at the number of recruitstudents and average star rating then do the math.
:joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy: Someone needs to log off and cool down and stop letting an Internet stranger get under their skin
Christ man, thats the point. He inherited a roster with the talent to do so right off the bat; stoops didn't. That's why it's stupid to look at JUST stoops and jokers records through 3 years and use it as a total indictment against stoops
That may be true, but remember Joker was the recruiting coordinator before he took over as head coach
Laster has practiced at all four LB positions since he's been here. While Kash and Di'Niro don't currently play the same position, for a good portion of fall camp Laster was ahead of Daniel on the depth chart at MLB - behind Love. Kash evidently improved enough to allow the staff to move Laster 'back' to Jack behind Ware. We should all be happy that this occurred as we have a talented backup at each of the four positions that the staff seems to have enough confidence in to play.
If we go 6-6 this year, I will consider it a successful year. However, with 18 to 20 returning players in 2017, I would expect an 8-4 season. Having a proven QB and other skill players back, and it being Stoops 5th year, I would expect a big improvement.
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
This year's Kentucky-Vanderbilt game will go a lot differently now that Kentucky has competent offensive coaching.
You ought to try to get a roster, it will help you in spelling, Frious=Firios.
It's not so much that you completely suck at spelling and sentence structure, you're just generally ignorant as well, and that's why people are really laughing at you.
And it's simple, really. Try to hang in here.
The talk about Laster moving inside hinged on whether or not the interior linebacker depth was strong enough. Once Kash Daniel stepped up, the staff felt comfortable with moving Laster to the outside, where his athleticism and length is best suited. Secondly, Kash Daniel is not ahead of Courtney Love, so by deduction, that leaves 0 Big Ten transfers behind Kash Daniel.
Also no shame in Nico Firios being behind Kash Daniel. Kash is incredibly talented, very big, very fast, very physically developed and aggressive at a very young age. Staff wants to get him reps because they think he can be a big time player. It's that simple, and it has nothing to do with what level of football he played prior to that, he was still an All-American coming out of high school.
It's okay if you're stupid, but at least make an effort to not be ignorant as well.
Just pickin at ya Free. Not a grammar thing, just a little free and loose with the names there you gotta admit. It's like you're saying, "Ahh Close Enough". Either that or you type like your driving with a swarm of hornets in the car.
Mason is decent. Don't write him off so quickly. He's clearly an intelligent guy. Vandy will give him all the time he needs if he shows zero off field issues and good academic progress. Especially after Franklin...they want zero embarrassment from the football program. I don't see any reason he can't make them a bowl eligible team this year or consistently down the road if they get their offensive kinks fixed. Webb is a beast at RB.
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