Mass shooting in Munich..

Mime-Is-Money

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Add in today's events in Germany, the recent bombings in Istanbul and the murders in Nice and you can certainly see that mass murder from terrorism is on the rise in Europe.

I didn't question that radical Islamic fueled terrorism wasn't on the rise in Europe. There's no doubt about that. I was interested in the data for public/mass shootings.

In the end, it's semantics, a murder is a murder, but my original response was directed towards the graphic portraying mass shootings.
 

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And the leftists on here are blaming right wingers. The mental illness on the left never ceases to amaze.
The media is already speculating that this is probably the handiwork of Neo-Nazis, and undoubtedly that's the hope of the media. It's certainly possible that the shooters are Nazis, but it makes no sense for Nazis to commit this particular type of terrorist act. It's not as if they're above doing it, but this particular makes no sense for them to commit. They would more likely attack a refugee center or some political target as opposed to a shopping mall full of random civilians. My guess is that the culprits will be exactly who everyone expects them to be. Occam's Razor.
 

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And the leftists on here are blaming right wingers. The mental illness on the left never ceases to amaze.

There are some thoughts that it could be extreme right wingers mocking the Muslims in this act. Nobody knows for sure yet, but I have seen reports from German police that claim they are jihadists. It would be nice if they would capture these bastards or kill them. Still at large.
 

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The media is already speculating that this is probably the handiwork of Neo-Nazis, and undoubtedly that's the hope of the media. It's certainly possible that the shooters are Nazis, but it makes no sense for Nazis to commit this particular type of terrorist act. It's not as if they're above doing it, but this particular makes no sense for them to commit. They would more likely attack a refugee center or some political target as opposed to a shopping mall full of random civilians. My guess is that the culprits will be exactly who everyone expects them to be. Occam's Razor.
That's what I was thinking. Why wouldn't they attack immigrants? Why attack German children. Could be nazis but doesn't make sense.

But I guess if you're crazy enough to do this, making sense doesn't come into the equation.
 
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Merkel absolutely hopes it is a crazy right winger.

The shooter certainly looks more caucasian than middle eastern IMO.
 

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That's what I was thinking. Why wouldn't they attack immigrants? Why attack German children. Could be nazis but doesn't make sense.

But I guess if you're crazy enough to do this, making sense doesn't come into the equation.
Maybe they were trying to do it and have it blamed on Muslims but that plan only works if they completely avoid getting caught, which is highly unlikely, and they would be delusional to have any expectation of not getting caught.
 

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Pictures of German police aren't exactly comforting. It looks like they just hand out black vests and an MP5 to every 23 year old dweeb in the country.

None of them look like they have ever shot a gun before.
 
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You may be correct but there is no way, from the pictures I've seen, that you can tell that he is white or just a light skinned person.
The freeze frame(shout out to J Geils) they keep showing on Fox News has me about 99% convinced.
 

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I have to wonder what (when) the tipping point in Europe will be, to either surrender to Islam or expulsion of Muslims. It is hard to imagine that any society can maintain the status quo in the face of ever increasing terror.
 

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Pictures of German police aren't exactly comforting. It looks like they just hand out black vests and an MP5 to every 23 year old dweeb in the country.

None of them look like they have ever shot a gun before.

Thought same same. Look and move very novice. Hope they can shoot straight when needed
 

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We will know easily if he is found to be caucasian as the internet will combust. Everybody save you online work just in case.
 
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There are some thoughts that it could be extreme right wingers mocking the Muslims in this act. Nobody knows for sure yet, but I have seen reports from German police that claim they are jihadists. It would be nice if they would capture these bastards or kill them. Still at large.
If one was killed as they say surely they can obtain a lead to confirm such I would like to believe
 

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A clip from news article. Damn sickening sob's!

? A witness who will only be identified as Lauretta told CNN her son was in a bathroom with a shooter at the McDonald's. "That's where he loaded his weapon," she said. "I hear like an alarm and boom, boom, boom... And he's still killing the children. The children were sitting to ear. They can't run." Lauretta said she heard the gunman say, "Allahu Akbar," or God is great. "I know this because I'm Muslim. I hear this and I only cry."
 

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A clip from news article. Damn sickening sob's!

? A witness who will only be identified as Lauretta told CNN her son was in a bathroom with a shooter at the McDonald's. "That's where he loaded his weapon," she said. "I hear like an alarm and boom, boom, boom... And he's still killing the children. The children were sitting to ear. They can't run." Lauretta said she heard the gunman say, "Allahu Akbar," or God is great. "I know this because I'm Muslim. I hear this and I only cry."
Shepard smith still saying no evidence of more than one shooter. And that he was yelling he was German. So, who knows.
 
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A supposed translation from the video from the balcony:

  1. Man: "You ****ing ******* you..."
  2. >Shooter: "Because of you I [unintelligible]..."
  3. Balcony Man: "You **** you. you're a ****"
  4. >Shooter: "...and now I have to buy a gun to shoot you"
  5. Balcony Man: "a gun **** off your head isn't on right"
  6. >Shooter and Balcony man shouting at each other
  7. Balcony Man apparently to people filming: "He's got a gun here the guy has one"
  8. Unseen voice: "****/****ing Turks!"
  9. Balcony Man: "****/****ing Kanacken" (foreigners basically)
  10. Balcony man to someone else : "EY! HE'S GOT A GUN! He has loaded his gun! Get the cops here!"
  11. >Shooter: "I am German."
  12. Balcony Man: "You're a **** is what you are"
  13. >Shooter: "Stop filming!"
  14. Balcony Man: "A **** is what you are, what the **** are you doing?"
  15. >Shooter: "Yeah what, I was born here!"
  16. Balcony Man: "Yeah and what the **** you think you're doing???"
  17. >Shooter: "I grew up here in the Hartz 4 (unemployment benefits in Germany) area.
  18. Balcony Man and Shooter talk at same time, can't make it out.
  19. >Shooter says something about "Behandlung" which is "treatment" in both medical treatment or just how you treat people,not sure which one he means.
  20. Balcony Man says something like "Yeah treatment is something for you"
  21. >Shooter: "I haven't done anything here for [unintelligible]"
  22. >Shooter: "Just shut your ****ing face man"
  23. Balcony Man: "You **** you"
  24. Balcony Man: "HEY! HE'S ON THE UPPER FLOOR HERE [unintelligible]"
  25. Filming man goes into cover, shooter starts firing.
  26. Balcony man calls him a **** again.
  27. Balcony man shouts something at him about "shooting here" and Shooter replies multiple times "Yeah, that's where you're right! Yeah you're right with that!" Yeah you're right!"
  28. Video ends.
A lot of those **** are - see you in Tennessee.
 

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I have to wonder what (when) the tipping point in Europe will be, to either surrender to Islam or expulsion of Muslims. It is hard to imagine that any society can maintain the status quo in the face of ever increasing terror.
Give everyone guns. Will fix it.
 

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I have to wonder what (when) the tipping point in Europe will be, to either surrender to Islam or expulsion of Muslims. It is hard to imagine that any society can maintain the status quo in the face of ever increasing terror.
Poland, Hungary and Russia are pretty much the last Kebab-removers in Europe. They'll be the last hopes of defense against islamization.
 

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Definite confusion aplenty there. Earlier was mention of shooter with long rifles. In 2 different videos of shooter in progress he had only a sidearm ? WTFO? Hope the local "authorities" don't end up shooting each other.
 

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Shepard smith still saying no evidence of more than one shooter. And that he was yelling he was German. So, who knows.
He sooo wants this to be a lone, white, anti immigrant, German. I hate that FOX is pushing that liberal POS on us.
 
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Mime-Is-Money

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You missed it because the person edited it out of his post after I called him out.

There are only 2 edited posts in the thread, both from regulars who wouldn't make such a claim.

Yep, I am the type of person to waste time confirming such nonsense.
 

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First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.