Match notes are out for Penn State-Wyoming

Nitlion1986

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In September of this year, I climbed Grays Peak in Colorado, the highest peak on the front range at 14,276. The journey involved 14.18 miles round trip. I didn't feel any effects of altitude sickness. Perhaps it's all in your head. I'm 71 years old. I doubt that 7,000 feet is going to do much, if anything.
Yeah. Ok.
Ryan Clark has sickle cell trait and playing in Denver damn near killed him. Scared Tomlin so bad the next time they played in Denver, Tomlin wouldn't let Clark dress for the game.
 

El_Jefe

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I know we don't see it in match notes, but I have a feeling we see Desmond at 141 this weekend, or maybe the collegiate duals


Desmond up 2 weights for an oxygen-deprivation match doesn't make sense except Shiny New Toy. If the idea is to get in his 5 freebie matches without burning his shirt, there will be other opportunities.

If not Nasdeo, then Garcia up 1 weight or Cunningham makes a lot more sense. Garcia is also from higher altitude and grew up 6 hrs from Laramie, opportunity for family/friends to see him in person.
 

El_Jefe

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The highest collegiate gym is at Western Colorado University (formerly Western State college) in Gunnison, CO. It sits above 7,700 feet. I wrestled for both University of Wyoming and WSC during my college career. It can be a brutal place to compete if you aren’t prepared. I’m sure PSU will be prepared. In hs I wrestled a few times in Leadville, CO which is over 10,200 and that was hell.
Gunnison CO is where some aerospace companies like to conduct high altitude testing.

About 20 years ago my wife and I went to northern New Mexico. I was on crutches at the time, so spending more energy getting around. Walking around ABQ (5300 ft) was easy enough. Then we did was the tramway to Sandia Peak (10.7k ft). The restaurant's bathroom was downstairs. I almost collapsed about 1/3 of the way back up to our table, and had to pause a couple times going up. We had to kill about another hour before I was OK for the 1-hr drive to Santa Fe.
 
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The effects of increasing altitude on the human body are objective fact. Air pressure drops progressively with increased elevation, resulting in less oxygen per breath, requiring increases in heart and breathing rates to get enough oxygen. I've hiked my share of 14kers and have stood atop most prominent peaks in my state and I've never experienced altitude sickness either, but that's different (although related) to how increased altitude makes (physical and mental) work more difficult, especially without time for acclimatization.

 
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OldAndInTheWay

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Gunnison CO is where some aerospace companies like to conduct high altitude testing.

About 20 years ago my wife and I went to northern New Mexico. I was on crutches at the time, so spending more energy getting around. Walking around ABQ (5300 ft) was easy enough. Then we did was the tramway to Sandia Peak (10.7k ft). The restaurant's bathroom was downstairs. I almost collapsed about 1/3 of the way back up to our table, and had to pause a couple times going up. We had to kill about another hour before I was OK for the 1-hr drive to Santa Fe.
I lived in Albuquerque for a while. At age 50 I hiked from Albuquerque to the top of the tram at the restaurant. One time I cross country skied from the parking lot at the top of the mountain over to the tram in a blizzard. I barely got back to my car. I was really lucky not to die. The blizzard and the altitude was so bad I couldn't even get the keys out of my pocket to open my car. I had to wait for someone to help me.
 

SleepyLion

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I have subscribed to BTN+ and Flo for many years to see as much wrestling as possible. Just bit the bullet and purchased a VSEE box a couple weeks ago, one time purchase, no subscription.......I watch any football game, hockey game, professional sport I want. Incudes Flo, BTN, BTN+, ACC, ESPN, ESPN+ (etc), Local and national network stations, and I haven't found a movie yet that isn't on it. Depending on where you buy it and what version you can expect to pay $275-360. So far we love it in our house.
Be careful of malware.
 

PUR158

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I lived in Albuquerque for a while. At age 50 I hiked from Albuquerque to the top of the tram at the restaurant. One time I cross country skied from the parking lot at the top of the mountain over to the tram in a blizzard. I barely got back to my car. I was really lucky not to die. The blizzard and the altitude was so bad I couldn't even get the keys out of my pocket to open my car. I had to wait for someone to help me.
Nice, I lived in ABQ for a year, highly underrated! Driving around to the other side of the Sandias and hitting up the brewery in Madrid was so peaceful.
 

34ever

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I have subscribed to BTN+ and Flo for many years to see as much wrestling as possible. Just bit the bullet and purchased a VSEE box a couple weeks ago, one time purchase, no subscription.......I watch any football game, hockey game, professional sport I want. Incudes Flo, BTN, BTN+, ACC, ESPN, ESPN+ (etc), Local and national network stations, and I haven't found a movie yet that isn't on it. Depending on where you buy it and what version you can expect to pay $275-360. So far we love it in our house.
I've been looking into this. Which model do you have?
 

orange nole

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Anywhere in Utah south of I-70 is paradise.
Yes sir! I didn’t always feel that way as a youngster but I do now for sure. It kinda loops around our county and connects to I-15 about an hour away. I’m really close to Capitol Reef NP and Lake Powell. There’s a guy that lives in the small towns here from Johnstown…maybe thee Johnstown on these boards? Hmmmmm

I grew up in the same valley and went to the same high school as the Sanderson’s, it’s cool up there too. Different for sure.
 

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no judgement but this has to be illegal, and just a matter of time before it gets shut down, right?
What i find concerning about those boxes is that you're hooking them into your home network. You're potentially giving the people that created those boxes, that stream almost all pirated content, complete access to everything you do on your home network.

What could go wrong? Its like telling a known criminal where you hide your key, the combination to your safe, and paying for their gas money to get to your house.

Good luck!
 

orange nole

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Dang, all these Utahans. What you think of the new state flag? Big fan here!

Lol, that’s what you get with Cael. Created a lot of Penn State fans here.

I just saw that flag for the first time today, one of kids pulled it up for a project in school.
 

kadeeu

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I know we don't see it in match notes, but I have a feeling we see Desmond at 141 this weekend, or maybe the collegiate duals



That tweet is a mischaracterization of what Cael said. He was saying that they need to look at weight regulations when making decisions about wrestling new guys at different weights so that if Desmond went 141 he would never get back to 125 because of the weight descent rules.
 

amattaro

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Yes sir! I didn’t always feel that way as a youngster but I do now for sure. It kinda loops around our county and connects to I-15 about an hour away. I’m really close to Capitol Reef NP and Lake Powell. There’s a guy that lives in the small towns here from Johnstown…maybe thee Johnstown on these boards? Hmmmmm

I grew up in the same valley and went to the same high school as the Sanderson’s, it’s cool up there too. Different for sure.
Two years ago I got pulled over by a cop on 24 in the middle of nowhere headed south towards Hanksville and the Hollow Mountain convenience store. Road as straight and empty as the eye can see. I was bird dogging a guy pulling a boat so figured all good. Cop was driving in the opposite direction. Didn’t know they could radar when moving. Lesson learned. Anyway, he was a real rural guy. Slow talker. Almost a southern drawl. He gives me a warning and says “everything in Utah has been here a million years. Nothing’s going anywhere. Take your time”. The next day an arch collapsed into Lake Powell.
 

Lyons212

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It was mentioned over the weekend a few of the guys looked like they may have been trained right through Sunday's competition. Makes me wonder if the guys were run ragged last week knowing the plan this week would be way more rest.
I think they went hard last week because it was right after Thanksgiving break. Probably go hard again this week since next week will be easier with it being finals week then rolling into Christmas break.
 
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Yes sir! I didn’t always feel that way as a youngster but I do now for sure. It kinda loops around our county and connects to I-15 about an hour away. I’m really close to Capitol Reef NP and Lake Powell. There’s a guy that lives in the small towns here from Johnstown…maybe thee Johnstown on these boards? Hmmmmm

I grew up in the same valley and went to the same high school as the Sanderson’s, it’s cool up there too. Different for sure.
Capitol Reef is criminally underrated. As a geology nerd, that place was gorgeous. I had tendinitis and couldn’t hike, but the drives there and in nearby Grand Staircase Escalante were stupendous.
 

El_Jefe

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Capitol Reef is criminally underrated. As a geology nerd, that place was gorgeous. I had tendinitis and couldn’t hike, but the drives there and in nearby Grand Staircase Escalante were stupendous.
This is what happens if you take a wrong turn in Grand Staircase Escalante:



I was staying in Panguitch (30 min NW of Bryce Canyon). Somehow ended up near the UT/AZ border before finding a main road. Thankfully didn't run out of gas. No cell signal -- to tell the B&B owner I'd be arriving late so please don't go to bed early -- until I got to Kanab UT (1:15 away) around 9 pm.

Rt. 12 is stunning. Wish I hadn't diverted.
 

PSU Mike

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Gunnison CO is where some aerospace companies like to conduct high altitude testing.

About 20 years ago my wife and I went to northern New Mexico. I was on crutches at the time, so spending more energy getting around. Walking around ABQ (5300 ft) was easy enough. Then we did was the tramway to Sandia Peak (10.7k ft). The restaurant's bathroom was downstairs. I almost collapsed about 1/3 of the way back up to our table, and had to pause a couple times going up. We had to kill about another hour before I was OK for the 1-hr drive to Santa Fe.
I used to love hiking to fly fish in the Sierra Nevada. When I first went I lived in DC. I found that running 10+ miles 5x a week in DC humidity in June/July made for easy backpacking, even over 10,000.’ I wasn’t wrestling there, but when hauling 40 pounds up and over Mammoth Lakes Mono Pass (~12,000’) I don’t recall thinking much about the air.
 
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Roar More

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This is what happens if you take a wrong turn in Grand Staircase Escalante:



I was staying in Panguitch (30 min NW of Bryce Canyon). Somehow ended up near the UT/AZ border before finding a main road. Thankfully didn't run out of gas. No cell signal -- to tell the B&B owner I'd be arriving late so please don't go to bed early -- until I got to Kanab UT (1:15 away) around 9 pm.

Rt. 12 is stunning. Wish I hadn't diverted.
I took that road and probably met that herd. I stopped as I figured they had the right of way. One of the cows slobbered all over my hood. Two cowpokes were riding drag. Between the Sierras and Rockies is beautiful country.

My favorite road in America is US 50 through Utah and Nevada. "The loneliest road in America." I was driving it a few years back and was getting the nods. I pulled over and took a nap. I was awakened by a rap on the window. A state trooper was checking to see if I was OK. He noted my Penn State PA license plate and asked if I was a wrestling fan. When he was in high school, the trooper had been to a few wrestling clinics put on by Cael's dad. We spent fifteen minutes talking wrestling.
 

maxoscar

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Gunnison CO is where some aerospace companies like to conduct high altitude testing.

About 20 years ago my wife and I went to northern New Mexico. I was on crutches at the time, so spending more energy getting around. Walking around ABQ (5300 ft) was easy enough. Then we did was the tramway to Sandia Peak (10.7k ft). The restaurant's bathroom was downstairs. I almost collapsed about 1/3 of the way back up to our table, and had to pause a couple times going up. We had to kill about another hour before I was OK for the 1-hr drive to Santa Fe.
Yes, but the Tramway to Sandia provides one of the most magnificent views in the country! It is a weird feeling to experience the oxygen deprivation though and the exertion of utilizing crutches can be difficult even at sea level
 
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HOA242n!

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I grew up in the same valley and went to the same high school as the Sanderson’s, it’s cool up there too. Different for sure.
We live closer to where you (and Sanderson) grew up. A cousin of Cael's was my kids' first (and only) wrestling coach. COVID shut down the program for the season and the only thing around still open was an MMA gym. We've all been doing BJJ since.
 

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I’m from CO and grew up in the Vail area. Absolutely beautiful country and I love it there. That said, I think Utah is the most beautiful state. The main attractions like Zion and Bryce are stunning but my favorite is Canyonlands. It’s a massive park that gets a fraction of the visitors that the more popular ones get. Needles is spectacular. I wish I had a bit more backpacking experience where I could take a week and go explore the Maze in Canyonlands. If you ever get the chance to check out the park I highly recommend it.
 

Potterlion

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A couple of other altitude stories. As has been noted, there's a difference between altitude sickness and the effects of altitude on cardiovascular ability. While hiking/fishing in the Uinta mountains last year (more Utah), my wife suffered horribly from altitude sickness (I've never been bothered other than being a bit short of breath on a hike or run) and we had to cut our hike short to get her back to lower elevation (I was killing big Brookies with a fly rod and wanted to go elsewhere for Cutthroat or Grayling, so going back sucked).

My younger son is enlisting in the Air Force soon and he's been training/testing to be a Para Jumper. For those who are unaware, these guys are pretty bad ***, and the standards are really high. He lives and trains near Salt Lake City/Park City, but also did all of the tests once in Charleston, SC and he said it was remarkable how easy the testing was at sea level compared to at 6 or 7000 feet in elevation. For those who think it doesn't make much difference, well, it does.
 

JoeBagobagels

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wrestled my entire life and never gassed out once, I used to run up mountains everyday but back in college I visited a friend who went to App state( about half the elevation of western state ) and we had to run from the police,( unlike Brayden we got away ) but I almost passed out and had to use a random persons inhaler and was still light headed and breathing hard for long time after we got away. I couldn’t imagine wrestling a D1 match without acclimating to the elevation first that sounds like a nightmare
Back in 2009 my wife and I vacationed in Arizona. When we went up to Flagstaff and v the Grand Canyon area I struggled for about two days at the altitude. It seemed like I was instantly bloated right away I just never experienced anything like that. She had called her dad she said that boy is used to living at sea level, you better get them down on a flat land and get a mistaken whiskey stat.

7000-8000 ft is way different than 500-1000.
 

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When I was a little kid I climbed a very tall pine tree. Some of the branches were rotten, but I chanced it anyway.

When I made it to the top of the tree, where the air was thin, I got a little woozy so I had to catch my breath before the descent.

Wanted to contribute to the match thread, thanks. Oh this was in central Pa.
 

AgSurfer

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Capitol Reef is criminally underrated. As a geology nerd, that place was gorgeous. I had tendinitis and couldn’t hike, but the drives there and in nearby Grand Staircase Escalante were stupendous.
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Do you think our Rubicon could make it through there?
 

amattaro

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When I was a little kid I climbed a very tall pine tree. Some of the branches were rotten, but I chanced it anyway.

When I made it to the top of the tree, where the air was thin, I got a little woozy so I had to catch my breath before the descent.

Wanted to contribute to the match thread, thanks. Oh this was in central Pa.
Maybe the altitude got to @pawrstlersinpa, too!