Just cost himself millions of dollars tearing his ACL in a meaningless bowl game. But please tell me more about why players shouldn’t opt out….
Matt Corral, old school warrior
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Some people act like the NFL is the only way these guys will ever be successful in life. Granted, for some it's a way to become an instant millionaire. Just maybe some of these guys measure success in a different way and look at the bowl game as last chance to play with your teammates.
Even if Corral blew out his knee, what are the chances he can't have surgery, do rehab, and make it in the NFL still.
Even if Corral blew out his knee, what are the chances he can't have surgery, do rehab, and make it in the NFL still.
The Egg Bowl was meaningless in the whole scheme of things as well. Good thing he didn't get hurt in that one.
if this is an ACL - yes it will cost him $$$$$ as far as the draft. It doesn't eliminate him from getting surgery and making it back for 2023 season. a team may draft him and go through the recovery work with him, or UFA mode. he will be the poster child for why to opt out. a few years ago it was the ND LB, who did get repaired finally and made it back to NFL. Obviously, each player makes their own decisions on this, and I am sure that he knew the risks before he entered this game. Maybe he took out a big insurance policy to cover this contingency. Needless to say there are fewer and fewer players who are going to take the risk of playing in bowl games that are NOT the playoffs.
I now love this kid. If I was a GM, I’d take him in a heartbeat. Let him get healthy. He’s got the make up and skills to be a really great QB. He’ll get paid down the road. And he will have instant credibility with his teammates because he was a warrior and played. Howie Roseman will be lurking. You keep Hurts and let him play. Let this kid get well and learn. When the time comes, let them play it out. He still has his whole career ahead of him
There are a ton of players who opted out for the NFL that you won’t ever hear from again.
There are a ton of players who opted out for the NFL that you won’t ever hear from again.
I wonder how many kids didn't have a NFL career because of injury in their final bowl game. Bet the number is pretty small. And probably significantly less with advances in nutrition and training programs over the years. Not to mention better medical procedures. Used to be an ACL tear was a career ender. Now most guys are back out playing in a year or less.
The same guys that sit out can end their careers on the practice squad if they are lucky enough to make one, or in some meaningless pre season game.
I think the OP was talking about the front end $$$ from the draft - early guys get some sizeable $$$ guaranteed. No doubt a guy can get one of these serious injuries in the bowls and make it back for 2023 season. They can make money later if they succeed. Not many GMs draft players who are injured this bad, or if they do it is very late = late $$$. I don't recall what the Cowboys did with the ND LB that had the ACL tear in the bowl game. I think he was considered round 1 before the injury.
Pretty much. Seems like a number of NFL stars end their seasons before they even begin every year. How many get hurt and cut from the practice squad every year that nobody hears about? You will never take injuries out of football. Bet guys would still get hurt even if they made the pros flag football. Regardless of how big and strong these guys are, the human body is still fragile.
I would bet the number of players who lost millions by doing stupid stuff off the field is way greater than those who lost millions getting hurt on it.
True. The front end money takes a hit. But if you can play, the NFL will find you and eventually you'll get rewarded.
Can these guys like Corral drop out of the draft, rehab, and re enter it the following year? Would that even make sense for a player to do?
McGahee blew his knee out and was still drafted in the first. He played running back. Too much is made of getting injured. Look at Paul Posluszny, he got injured and went out to make a nice NFL career for himself.
Coaches make millions, but kids are expected to put their bodies on the line for nothing but team spirit. It’s their choice and have no problem with whatever they choose, but I know what I would do.
Don't know why the value of the scholarship is overlooked. Players are well compensated themselves.
What a crock. Players risk life and limb, coaches make millions. But they are finally wising up.
No. What the first episode of back on the record with Bob Costas. He puts that thought to bed.
What does that multi-millionaire squirt know about putting your body and brain on the line?
He knows more than you and me on the subject. Go lookup what some of these former players are doing now with the educational opportunities that they received thru football. They are making more money know then they ever did playing pro ball. You can't see the forest from the trees.
If the players don't like it, they can go flip burgers and workout for 3 years. Then declare themselves eligible for the draft. Nobody is forcing them to sign their NLI.
You're kind of guy.
"He was a hard worker in practice and in games. But off the field, he was living a completely different life. "I took golf, fishing, and softball as classes," Clarett says. "Away from class, anything you can think of I did in my 13 months at Ohio State." Drugs and women were two of the things. Cars were another—he owned three of them at a time, including a brand-new Cadillac and Lexus. "I was living the NFL life in college," he says. "I got paid more in college than I do now in the UFL."
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No, he doesn’t. Maybe they would make more without football, which we are learning leads to premature dementia and shortens your life due to repeated concussions. Very few play pro ball.
It's a shame he didn't get to finish this game, but I like that he played. I hope he goes on to a great NFL career.
Gee, remember one of our great RB’s and what happened to him?
Alas, Carter suffered a season-ending ACL injury in his left knee during his first preseason game against the Detroit Lions at the Pontiac Silverdome. In just his third carry of the game, Carter planted his left foot on the turf and attempted to cut right.
Football is a violent game, injuries happen all the time. If a bowl game is meaningless then so are regular season games if your only goal is to reach the NFL. Time to go back to student athletes and develop a “true” pro football development league. No more worries about academics, scholarships, apartments, meals, training staff, travel, etc.
That will never happen because of the corruption of big time $$$$ in all of this. When do we get our Ferris wheel and water park?
Alas, Carter suffered a season-ending ACL injury in his left knee during his first preseason game against the Detroit Lions at the Pontiac Silverdome. In just his third carry of the game, Carter planted his left foot on the turf and attempted to cut right.
Football is a violent game, injuries happen all the time. If a bowl game is meaningless then so are regular season games if your only goal is to reach the NFL. Time to go back to student athletes and develop a “true” pro football development league. No more worries about academics, scholarships, apartments, meals, training staff, travel, etc.
That will never happen because of the corruption of big time $$$$ in all of this. When do we get our Ferris wheel and water park?
After 34 bowl games, what’s the career ending injury count up to now? Is there an online tracker for it?
This isn't about career ending injuries, it's about draft status. It's all about the first contract because there's a good chance there won't be a 2nd. You need to score the payday with your first NFL contract via the signing bonus. Micah Parsons salary this year is $660k. His signing bonus was $9.78 million. If you drop to 2nd or third round (or worse) due to an injury in a meaningless game you lose out on the signing bonus which may be the best you'll get out of your career.
How soon before players opt out of regular season games? Don't look now but it's coming.
To the OP's point, the big NFL money is front-loaded. It's guaranteed even before a player steps foot in preseason camp. IMHO therein lies the problem. Guaranteed money regardless of performance. As far as I know there are few "industries" in our capitalistic society where you can make such a score: 1) professional sports, 2) the movie industry and 3) the federal government insomuch as it applies to retention. Don't fault the players. Blame the system. It's busted.
'Past performance doesn't guarantee future results' works as a disclaimer for investing. It applies here, too.
To the OP's point, the big NFL money is front-loaded. It's guaranteed even before a player steps foot in preseason camp. IMHO therein lies the problem. Guaranteed money regardless of performance. As far as I know there are few "industries" in our capitalistic society where you can make such a score: 1) professional sports, 2) the movie industry and 3) the federal government insomuch as it applies to retention. Don't fault the players. Blame the system. It's busted.
'Past performance doesn't guarantee future results' works as a disclaimer for investing. It applies here, too.
Should high school juniors with scholarship offers in-hand opt out of their senior year of high school? Why not?
C'mon. How about defense contracting? RAH66 Comanche anyone? Future Combat System? Talk about front loaded pay for zero results....
Agree. Opting out of bowls is justified because it's a "meaningless game". If that's the metric then the regular season finale for most teams is meaningless as well. All PSU bowl opt outs would have been justified skipping the MSU game because it was meaningless as far as the outcome.