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WVPATX

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Op2 said:
According to this website Russia, China and India are part of it.

http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/blog/2016/04/parisagreementsingatures/
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But they pick their own targets and timeframes. For example, China will begin to reduce CO2 emissions by 2030. Does anyone with a mind believe they will live up to that agreement?

As for Russia:

Russia Emissions Reduction Strategy
Posted on November 20, 2016


Russia: Presidential Decree No. 889, Federal Law No. 261-FZ, State Program in Energy Efficiency and Energy Sector Development

The carbon footprint of Russia is influenced by the following characteristics:

  • Russia is one of the worldwide leaders in oil and gas production;
  • The country economy is based on energy-consuming industry with heavy and partially old technologies;
  • Fossil fuels are accessible and not expensive, and 68.1% of power is generated by combustion of fossil fuels
  • The overall level of energy consumption in Russia is relatively high due to the cold climate and lack of natural limitations. Fossil fuels prices are affordable for the population and industries. Most of the heat and electricity is supplied to the customers from the united grids and centralized heat distribution systems considered as being more practicable and reliable for the Russian conditions.
The national strategy in respect to the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions is yet to be developed. So far, there has been no structured policy on the GHG emissions reduction. The carbon trade instruments under the Kyoto protocol were implemented in part and did not have any significant outcome.

As for India, don't expect any real reductions either:

http://www.dw.com/en/india-to-ratify-climate-pact-but-can-it-reduce-co2-emissions/a-35932988
 
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WVPATX said:
But they pick their own targets and timeframes. For example, China will begin to reduce CO2 emissions by 2030. Does anyone with a mind believe they will live up to that agreement?

As for Russia:

Russia Emissions Reduction Strategy
Posted on November 20, 2016


Russia: Presidential Decree No. 889, Federal Law No. 261-FZ, State Program in Energy Efficiency and Energy Sector Development

The carbon footprint of Russia is influenced by the following characteristics:

  • Russia is one of the worldwide leaders in oil and gas production;
  • The country economy is based on energy-consuming industry with heavy and partially old technologies;
  • Fossil fuels are accessible and not expensive, and 68.1% of power is generated by combustion of fossil fuels
  • The overall level of energy consumption in Russia is relatively high due to the cold climate and lack of natural limitations. Fossil fuels prices are affordable for the population and industries. Most of the heat and electricity is supplied to the customers from the united grids and centralized heat distribution systems considered as being more practicable and reliable for the Russian conditions.
The national strategy in respect to the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions is yet to be developed. So far, there has been no structured policy on the GHG emissions reduction. The carbon trade instruments under the Kyoto protocol were implemented in part and did not have any significant outcome.

As for India, don't expect any real reductions either:

http://www.dw.com/en/india-to-ratify-climate-pact-but-can-it-reduce-co2-emissions/a-35932988
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I also haven't seen the discussion of the $100 billion a year that we are going to be carrying the lion's share of in "assisting" underdeveloped countries transition from Fossil to Green energy.
 
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DvlDog4WVU said:
I also haven't seen the discussion of the $100 billion a year that we are going to be carrying the lion's share of in "assisting" underdeveloped countries transition from Fossil to Green energy.
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Great point and I believe this is the key to the entire global warming issue. A giant transfer payment from the developed countries to the undeveloped countries. Why would an undeveloped country forego cheap energy (the kind that built this country) unless they are paid to do so? And you're exactly right, the U.S. (or should I say the tax payer) will foot the majority of the bill as compared to other countries, not to mention the tax payers footing the bill for ever higher energy costs.
 
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DvlDog4WVU said:
I also haven't seen the discussion of the $100 billion a year that we are going to be carrying the lion's share of in "assisting" underdeveloped countries transition from Fossil to Green energy.
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Might as well lubricate our collective aholes for the screwing that Herr Obama was intent on.
 
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op2

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WVPATX said:
But they pick their own targets and timeframes. For example, China will begin to reduce CO2 emissions by 2030. Does anyone with a mind believe they will live up to that agreement?

As for Russia:

Russia Emissions Reduction Strategy
Posted on November 20, 2016


Russia: Presidential Decree No. 889, Federal Law No. 261-FZ, State Program in Energy Efficiency and Energy Sector Development

The carbon footprint of Russia is influenced by the following characteristics:

  • Russia is one of the worldwide leaders in oil and gas production;
  • The country economy is based on energy-consuming industry with heavy and partially old technologies;
  • Fossil fuels are accessible and not expensive, and 68.1% of power is generated by combustion of fossil fuels
  • The overall level of energy consumption in Russia is relatively high due to the cold climate and lack of natural limitations. Fossil fuels prices are affordable for the population and industries. Most of the heat and electricity is supplied to the customers from the united grids and centralized heat distribution systems considered as being more practicable and reliable for the Russian conditions.
The national strategy in respect to the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions is yet to be developed. So far, there has been no structured policy on the GHG emissions reduction. The carbon trade instruments under the Kyoto protocol were implemented in part and did not have any significant outcome.

As for India, don't expect any real reductions either:

http://www.dw.com/en/india-to-ratify-climate-pact-but-can-it-reduce-co2-emissions/a-35932988
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Everybody in the Paris Accords obeys it or not voluntarily, not just India and China and Russia.
 
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WVPATX

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Op2 said:
Everybody in the Paris Accords obeys it or not voluntarily, not just India and China and Russia.
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Thus the ridiculous nature of the Agreement. And since this is the case, it is no big deal for the U.S. to pull out.
 
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