Byu is not a conference killer. They would love an invite to a power 5 conference. They left the MWC because they were jealous that the Pac 12 choose Utah over them.
Maybe the Big 12 is not dead yet
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Yeah, there is that, more from the fans I believe. BYU didn't want to play on Sundays, wasn't happy with the MWC TV coverage and was working behind the scenes with espn to have their own broadcast channel.
Their rivalry is crazy
One of the most underrated ones in the country
Up there with the Egg Bowl. But at least the Mississippi schools are getting a chance to show their craziness off on a larger platform
But BYU for the most part believed themselves to be superior to Utah
On the field and morally
Utah leaving for the PAC 12 hurt them
Last year was their season to show that isn’t the case
But they haven’t beat Utah in almost 10 years and will do just about anything to turn the tables on Utah again.
What makes it funnier is that Utah is doing it with a BYU guy
One of the most underrated ones in the country
Up there with the Egg Bowl. But at least the Mississippi schools are getting a chance to show their craziness off on a larger platform
But BYU for the most part believed themselves to be superior to Utah
On the field and morally
Utah leaving for the PAC 12 hurt them
Last year was their season to show that isn’t the case
But they haven’t beat Utah in almost 10 years and will do just about anything to turn the tables on Utah again.
What makes it funnier is that Utah is doing it with a BYU guy
I just told you, whereas you haven’t said anything informative or answered any questions. You are just a troll who doesn’t know anything but how to stir. You are laughable. Since you can’t answer the questions, time to put you on ignore.
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And I also keep on saying that it's likely a pipe dream that has to be pursued for the sake of being thorough. Your restating the obvious seems very in character for you, but it doesn't make it less annoying.
Jerry Jones may not have the overall influence of the Waltons and Tysons. Both have influence because of their connections with Missouri and Arkansas.
But Jerry one of the people who were pushing for Texas and OU into the SEC.
His grandson. Charlotte’s son Paxton is a walk on at Texas. As crazy as it sounds Jerry and his family give money to Texas as well.
Jerry is trying to push to host the SEC championship game
But I think Houston has him beat. McNair’s are from South Carolina. Also connected to the SEC.
When Utah and Tcu left the MWC became to watered down. It wasn't like it was great to begin with. Byu would have stayed if Utah was still there. Byu would gladly join a power 5 conference if offered. If they ended up in the Big12 they would not actively work to undermine it. I am sure the remaining 8 are exploring there options behind the scenes. I am not sure I would say they are trying to undermine anything. Its called looking out for number 1 so you don't end up landing in number 2.
Exactly
All about who gives a school the most revenue
Also about what school gives a conference the most revenue
Money will make someone’s grievances go away
BYU is up there for the Big 12
But there isn’t a number 10 yet.
As of now they stay at 8 unless something happens with the PAC
All about who gives a school the most revenue
Also about what school gives a conference the most revenue
Money will make someone’s grievances go away
BYU is up there for the Big 12
But there isn’t a number 10 yet.
As of now they stay at 8 unless something happens with the PAC
Lol...you actually used "whereas" on a sports forum? As your hero in the White House says..."come on man!"
Can you imagine the meltdown if we were in a conference with UCF, Houston and Cincy? They’d be calling for someone’s head…
So where are the 'quality' teams. We see the laughing stock, also-rans, but not teams that are of the quality to encourage folks tuning in to watch. If this is the best that our reputation as a major sports contributor brings us then the system is so rotten that a collapse is the best option to wish for.
Going Post Miami/Va Tech/BC model it looks like
I actually think the best idea is to stay at 8. Possibly 9 if you add BYU
Get a Thursday/Friday prime time slot
Quality games especially if Kansas can put something into their football program
No real bottom
A bunch is teams 15/50
Actually could be a great basketball conference
I actually think the best idea is to stay at 8. Possibly 9 if you add BYU
Get a Thursday/Friday prime time slot
Quality games especially if Kansas can put something into their football program
No real bottom
A bunch is teams 15/50
Actually could be a great basketball conference
The Big12 only hope is adding Cincinnati and stealing a Pac school or two or a merger with the Pac and bringing Cincinnati with us.
That's about the best scenario for WVU right now.
That's about the best scenario for WVU right now.
Cincinnati has a NFL team so I don’t know if they are truly wanted
Most people are just throwing schools out there.
BYU is the obvious choice
Attendance Have averaged around 50+K
Viewership
Money
BYU has always desired a presence in Texas. Played a bunch of schools last year
Most people are just throwing schools out there.
BYU is the obvious choice
Attendance Have averaged around 50+K
Viewership
Money
BYU has always desired a presence in Texas. Played a bunch of schools last year
That is actually plausible but not probable
That would be like tapping out. They will be known for hereafter as a *****. At least that will be the narrative
B1G spending isn’t much better. SEC is actually putting forth an effort academically
What inside knowledge do you have that WVU is not going to the ACC, TTU is not going to Pac-12, and Kansas and ISU are not going to the Big? I think at this point, nobody knows what the hell is going to happen.
The commissioner didn’t do any help last week when he said without Texas and OU each school is worth 17 million each
This is an average….
If you are in a room with 10 people and being in that room you get 2000 dollars…
Would you let someone in who is only bringing in 1000.
That would mean your share decreases.
The question becomes what is the value of each individual school than what is the revenue schools get for what conference they are trying to join
PAC and ACC are at the bottom
B1G and SEC at the top
This is an average….
If you are in a room with 10 people and being in that room you get 2000 dollars…
Would you let someone in who is only bringing in 1000.
That would mean your share decreases.
The question becomes what is the value of each individual school than what is the revenue schools get for what conference they are trying to join
PAC and ACC are at the bottom
B1G and SEC at the top
You flip-flop more than Joe Manchin. You posted a week or two ago that Kansas was leaving the Big 12 for the B!G. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, which is more often than you, but you are "cuckoo."
So Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Kentucky, Wake Forest, Duke, Ga.Tech, NC. State, California, Arizona, Arizona State, Minnesota, Northwestern, Indiana, Illinois, Nebraska, Rutgers, Maryland bring in the 2000. I'm sure there are more. Crock a **** if you ask me. Just like all your comments.
Football pays the bill's. Some of those are basketball only some are nothing period.
Already in the room
Rutgers and Maryland were brought in under the cable era. They brought in populations
NJ and Maryland are mid size states
Dumbest thing ever posted. One minute you're about TV sets the next about tradition and then about grandfathered in. You are a snake oil salesman that has no clue of what you're talking about.
Like to see B1G shed some dead weight. Think Penn State is enough to bring in enough TV sets. Hopefully, B1G stays idle and doesn't make any moves, at least not until the right moves are viable options. Thinking they would only go after top programs, ones who already have a connection to the Fox, and you know who those schools are. Basically lock up the West and Midwest, and SEC can can the South and portion of the East Coast. I'm against it all though, and hope they don't do anything, and if they do, simply bring in a couple teams to get to 16. That's enough.
This expansion is about streaming CFB…
Every expansion is based on something different
Last one was based on conference networks
So innocently blind. If it's all about money those not bringing it in should be booted. That is coming next. Greed has killed college football.
I have no inside knowledge, but any Big 12 team going to the Big 10 is a logical stretch. No one left in the Big 12 moves the financial needle that much and the Big 10 is such an upgrade over anything other than the SEC, I think the smart money is that those teams will be there for the taking later if Big 10 has to fall back on them. I see the Big 10 exploring ND, even if a stretch, and possibly the biggest money in the PAC12 first.
I can see Big 10 adding USC. Then waiting to see if ND would have interest or forced to join a conference by ESPN.
If USC leaves PAC 12 then it will be a merge of Big 12 and PAC for sure just to attempt survival.
B1G adding USC and ND would be a helluva counter punch to SEC adding Oklahoma and Texas, especially now that Texas has been irrelevant for a decade, maybe longer.
Texas has been irrelevant yet they are SEC bound.
It's the name the Big 10 would sell.
USC 93-41 this past decade. The decade before 110-24.
USU 203-65 the past 2 decades of 2001-2020. Average record of 10-3 a year.