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atlkvb

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They go through any and all lengths NOT to give Trump credit for the incredible increase of Blacks finding meaningful work. Black unemployment is at all time record lows, yet if you read this excerpt from "Black enterprise"...Trump has zero to do with it:

full article
http://www.blackenterprise.com/trump-record-low-black-unemployment-rate/


excerpt:

THE FACTS
Despite the Trump administration’s celebratory tone, experts agree that the decline in U.S. unemployment was not triggered by any one policy executed by the Trump administration. Rather, one reason unemployment has been declining is due to the decision made by Janet Yellen, the retiring Federal Reserve Chair appointed by President Barack Obama, to suppress interest rates. Job growth also stabilized under the Obama administration as U.S. employers hired more than 2 million workers for seven consecutive years. Meanwhile, the economy gained a whopping 5.7 million jobs in 2014 and 2015, alone. “The data and the evidence clearly show that the recovery of employment was well underway before President Trump took office,” Valerie Wilson, an economist at the Economic Policy Institute, told The Atlantic.

The drop in black unemployment can be accredited to several factors over the last decade, including the growth of college-educated African Americans and years of steady hiring and economic growth. Another reason can be attributed to employers who tend to hire a diverse pool of candidates in a tight job market. “When the national unemployment rate falls to ultra-low levels, employers typically cast wider nets to find the workers they need. As they do so, they typically start pulling in more people from historically disadvantaged groups. These include job-seekers with less education as well as racial minorities,” reports The Associated Press.

OK...makes sense right? But if the article is correct, why didn't this phenomenon begin under Obama who they're giving all of the credit to now? Black unemployment under Obama remained consistently high...at record levels in fact, even while all of these things the article now gives Obama the credit for were already in place! So why did his (Obama's) policies wait until Trump came into Office to work so well?

Notice how the article never quite explains that rather obvious hole in its argument? "Lying with the Truth"...the Media has perfected it and the only constant in how it's executed is to make sure Trump is given no credit for the improving economy or lower Black unemployment rate as a result.

Disgusting.
 
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boomerwv

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It's pretty serious cognitive dissidence to try to give Trump some type of credit for this and not Obama when the rate is less than 1 point lower now than it was when Obama left office. Black unemployment hit over 16% during the height of the financial crisis and was under 8 when Obama left office. That is pretty impressive. In fact the rate of decline slowed from the three years previous.

Trumpian policies are in their infant stages. It is far too early to say if they will be successful or not.
 

atlkvb

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It's pretty serious cognitive dissidence to try to give Trump some type of credit for this and not Obama when the rate is less than 1 point lower now than it was when Obama left office. Black unemployment hit over 16% during the height of the financial crisis and was under 8 when Obama left office. That is pretty impressive. In fact the rate of decline slowed from the three years previous.

Trumpian policies are in their infant stages. It is far too early to say if they will be successful or not.

Fair enough...so what policy did Obama enact that singled out Blacks and caused their unemployment rates to drop to record lows?
 

boomerwv

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Fair enough...so what policy did Obama enact that singled out Blacks and caused their unemployment rates to drop to record lows?

Probably nothing. Black unemployment had been falling in the years leading up to the recession as well, tracking with all other unemployment numbers over the same time.

The real problem isn't the number. It is why black unemployment remains twice the average. Nothing has made much of a difference there.

My point isn't to give credit, it is to point out that these trends don't correlate to presidential terms.
 

atlkvb

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Probably nothing. Black unemployment had been falling in the years leading up to the recession as well, tracking with all other unemployment numbers over the same time.

The real problem isn't the number. It is why black unemployment remains twice the average. Nothing has made much of a difference there.

My point isn't to give credit, it is to point out that these trends don't correlate to presidential terms.

I'm glad you said that, because even that particular article didn't exactly specify what Obama had done to lower Black unemployment and no one policy can be targeted like that. The fact does remain though that Black unemployment remained stubbornly high during most of Obama's years...at record levels for teens in fact and those numbers have dropped precipitously since Trump has come in.

Ironically all he's done is improve the business climate through lower regulation and taxation and that alone has caused a spike in the numbers of all folks finding better jobs. Sadly, targeted initiatives like the "work opportunity" proposals of Dr. Ben Carson which are designed to move people off Welfare, or Tax free enterprise zones for inner cities designed to help minorities start up or own businesses are all opposed by Democrats. Why?
 

atlkvb

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I have mentioned this (growing Black support for Trump) and the reasons for it which the media ignores.

I hope they continue to ignore it. The shock they experienced last November with Trump's unexpected win over Hillary will cause seizures when they see overwhelming numbers of once loyal Democrat Black voters going all 'MAGA'!

Looking forward to it personally.
 

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Brushy Bill

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Mountaineer just proved that voters of all colors and ages will vote against their best interests when offered "free" stuff. Good job.
 
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They go through any and all lengths NOT to give Trump credit for the incredible increase of Blacks finding meaningful work. Black unemployment is at all time record lows, yet if you read this excerpt from "Black enterprise"...Trump has zero to do with it:

full article
http://www.blackenterprise.com/trump-record-low-black-unemployment-rate/


excerpt:

THE FACTS
Despite the Trump administration’s celebratory tone, experts agree that the decline in U.S. unemployment was not triggered by any one policy executed by the Trump administration. Rather, one reason unemployment has been declining is due to the decision made by Janet Yellen, the retiring Federal Reserve Chair appointed by President Barack Obama, to suppress interest rates. Job growth also stabilized under the Obama administration as U.S. employers hired more than 2 million workers for seven consecutive years. Meanwhile, the economy gained a whopping 5.7 million jobs in 2014 and 2015, alone. “The data and the evidence clearly show that the recovery of employment was well underway before President Trump took office,” Valerie Wilson, an economist at the Economic Policy Institute, told The Atlantic.

The drop in black unemployment can be accredited to several factors over the last decade, including the growth of college-educated African Americans and years of steady hiring and economic growth. Another reason can be attributed to employers who tend to hire a diverse pool of candidates in a tight job market. “When the national unemployment rate falls to ultra-low levels, employers typically cast wider nets to find the workers they need. As they do so, they typically start pulling in more people from historically disadvantaged groups. These include job-seekers with less education as well as racial minorities,” reports The Associated Press.

OK...makes sense right? But if the article is correct, why didn't this phenomenon begin under Obama who they're giving all of the credit to now? Black unemployment under Obama remained consistently high...at record levels in fact, even while all of these things the article now gives Obama the credit for were already in place! So why did his (Obama's) policies wait until Trump came into Office to work so well?

Notice how the article never quite explains that rather obvious hole in its argument? "Lying with the Truth"...the Media has perfected it and the only constant in how it's executed is to make sure Trump is given no credit for the improving economy or lower Black unemployment rate as a result.

Disgusting.

Sure would be nice if you used any facts to support your assertions. There is no argument that the 9 years of economic growth is due to low interest rates.

I am curious, if we actually see a recession in 2020 would you blame Trump? Would you ever blame trump for anything? A lot of economist will state that the president doesn't impact the economy much but rather monetary policy impacts the economy to a greater degree.
 

boomerwv

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I'm glad you said that, because even that particular article didn't exactly specify what Obama had done to lower Black unemployment and no one policy can be targeted like that. The fact does remain though that Black unemployment remained stubbornly high during most of Obama's years...at record levels for teens in fact and those numbers have dropped precipitously since Trump has come in.

Ironically all he's done is improve the business climate through lower regulation and taxation and that alone has caused a spike in the numbers of all folks finding better jobs. Sadly, targeted initiatives like the "work opportunity" proposals of Dr. Ben Carson which are designed to move people off Welfare, or Tax free enterprise zones for inner cities designed to help minorities start up or own businesses are all opposed by Democrats. Why?

Actually, as I said, the decline under Trump was less than each of the preceeding three years. Not giving credit or blame, but the drop certainly didn't start or increase under him.

It was high during the recession and recovery, but was still tracking with the overall average.
 

atlkvb

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Sure would be nice if you used any facts to support your assertions. There is no argument that the 9 years of economic growth is due to low interest rates.

I am curious, if we actually see a recession in 2020 would you blame Trump? Would you ever blame trump for anything? A lot of economist will state that the president doesn't impact the economy much but rather monetary policy impacts the economy to a greater degree.

I'm not arguing facts with you OM1 you deny them. Why do Democrats oppose tax free enterprise zones in minority communities?

Was Black unemployment higher or lower under Obama than it is now?

Never mind who's responsible, what are the direct answers to my questions?

Use facts.
 

atlkvb

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Actually, as I said, the decline under Trump was less than each of the preceeding three years. Not giving credit or blame, but the drop certainly didn't start or increase under him.

It was high during the recession and recovery, but was still tracking with the overall average.

I'll ask you the same two questions I asked OM1.

Why do Democrats oppose tax free enterprise zones in minority communities?

Was Black unemployment higher or lower under Obama than it is now?

Never mind who's responsible, what are the direct answers to my questions?

Use facts.
 
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atlkvb

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And why would those numbers continue for Democrats from Blacks in the upcoming election? What are the Democrats offering Blacks that they can't get under Trump that would dictate their voting almost 90% Democrat across all age groups? What's the draw to the Democrat party for Blacks? What's their big agenda item for Blacks? Open borders? School choice vouchers? Higher taxes? Fewer jobs?

Anti-Trump? Blacks don't hate Trump, in fact many are starting to like what his Presidency means to them because they're earning more $$$$$$$$$$.

You're from "the Hood" MWV. You know the old saying...money talks...and bullsh*t walks"?

 

atlkvb

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MWV Watch the whole thing, but if you don't watch anything else, scroll ahead to about 5:00 in this video and try to understand what I'm telling you about Black voters and Trump. Sen Scott lays it all out clearly for you if you're listening.

 

boomerwv

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I'll ask you the same two questions I asked OM1.

Why do Democrats oppose tax free enterprise zones in minority communities?

Was Black unemployment higher or lower under Obama than it is now?

Never mind who's responsible, what are the direct answers to my questions?

Use facts.

You're simply not dealing in them, although that is clearly par for the course for your posts. If you can't, or won't, understand the underlying trends seen in the data I am not going to continue to waste my time explaining them to you.

And enterprise zones are opposed because they are often nothing more than gifts to large corporations and do nothing to improve the situation of the local communities. There has been ample research supporting that stance.
 

atlkvb

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You're simply not dealing in them, although that is clearly par for the course for your posts. If you can't, or won't, understand the underlying trends seen in the data I am not going to continue to waste my time explaining them to you.

And enterprise zones are opposed because they are often nothing more than gifts to large corporations and do nothing to improve the situation of the local communities. There has been ample research supporting that stance.

Question: Was Black unemployment higher or lower under Obama than it is now?

Ans: "You're simply not dealing in them, although that is clearly par for the course for your posts. If you can't or won't understand the underlying trends seen in the data (not supplied) I am not going to continue to waste my time explaining them to you"

What data? What underlying trends? I simply asked for raw numbers on Black unemployment under Obama vs Trump... why didn't you offer them?

Question: Why do Democrats oppose tax free enterprise zones in minority communities?

Ans: Enterprise zones are opposed because they are often nothing more than gifts to large corporations and do nothing to improve the situation of the local communities.

There are no "large corporations" in most inner cities. Enterprise zones are designed primarily to help small business start ups. In destitute areas, jobs are needed more than anything else. Money that companies get to keep that they've earned are not "gifts". No data was offered to back your assertion that nothing changes in minority communities when small businesses or even large ones expand there.

Rep Tim Scott explains what's really happening with work opportunity zones and the "investing opportunity act" Trump is supporting, and Democrats oppose.
(5:00 into the interview)
 
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