After listening to the podcast I expected him to be kind of a stiff so I watched his Youtube video - better than Ogbole IMO, and I was OK with Ogbole as only a backup for 12 mpg, and three years from now who knows?
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If it's this kid, he's worth a look.
19 in July, 6'10
Don't know how competitive Slov-2 league is.
Seems to demand the ball.
Shoots a ton of FTs in 25 min/GM
Shoots an occasional 3
10+ rebs in most games
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19 in July, 6'10
Don't know how competitive Slov-2 league is.
Seems to demand the ball.
Shoots a ton of FTs in 25 min/GM
Shoots an occasional 3
10+ rebs in most games
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I have no idea what to make of that video. Looks like one of the biggest best players at a Sunday open gym. His midrange is a little one hand push shot. Basketball player though, so step in right direction, no idea if his talent will translate to this level.
If it's this kid, he's worth a look.
19 in July, 6'10
Don't know how competitive Slov-2 league is.
Seems to demand the ball.
Shoots a ton of FTs in 25 min/GM
Shoots an occasional 3
10+ rebs in most games
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10+ rebound per game average? Sign him up right now and I don’t care what “level” the basketball it is. And I’m one whose been on the anti Euro train.
Rebounds are rebounds. Street ball leagues can have physical guys who rebound the rock. That’s something you either have a knack for or you don’t. By way of comparison - as a full time starter for San Jose State, Ralph Agee grabbed 10 boards in a game a grand total of one time. Wolf did it a total of 3 times this season for Miami (Ohio). No matter what the “team” competition level is, every league is going to have some teams with some physical guys who rebound. To average 10+ rebounds game in and out means you can rebound. Full stop.
The other stats mean nothing without context of competition level.
Your saying all leagues have guys and you either have it or don't, then bring up Wolf. Wolf averaged double digits in high school. Did he have it, and then not have it?
That kid played at Xavier too. Did nothing in Big East or Big Ten, but played decently at Illinois Chicago. Not sure if actually the same league, but think Menic puts up slightly better #'s over there.
Cmon man that’s not true at all
rebounds aren’t rebounds… if you put a tall guy on a court with a bunch of short stiffs he’s going to get rebounds because he’s taller not because he’s good
I said rebounding only. Specifically said everything else (scoring the obvious) meaningless without knowing the competition. Only in high school stats is this true of rebounding metrics (ala Fall) for 2 big reasons:
1) they generally aren’t legit. Some random assistant keeping the book and making them up as they go (all stats except points can be that way in HS.
2) Opportunity to pad rebounds exists in HS for 6-10 type guys who stink because some teams don’t have anyone over 6-3. That’s not the case even in bad pro leagues and D3. By then, most teams have at least some size. High school is very different. Half of most rosters at least will have no shot at even D3. That’s true even on better teams.
What we know is that top tier rercruits/transfers aren't likely playing for Rutgers.As such recruiting will be based on taking risks hoping that a few can over achieve.The center position is very difficult to recruit because it now requires scoring ability away from the basket.
Bring him in. Should be able to surpass a euro league like this salary, so shouldn’t cost much. Would still like a 22 year old experienced college forward to add some bulk downlow. A Gurdak injury and we’d have no real size/strength downlow. Buchanan and Sydnor can not guard a Big all game.
There are guys that rebound and guys that go get rebounds. You can't tell in that video which category this kid falls under, I wouldn't just assume he's a rebounder.
Only info on teams website says ciani was an ex player playing at psu. I know this sasa guy went into portal again this year.
I wasn’t implying it means he’s a good player only that it’d be very surprising for a kid who averaged that many rebounds (10 per game) in any professional league to be a “poor” rebounder at any level. For context - there were only 27 D3 players, 12 D2 players, and 14 D1 players in the NCAA (53 across all 3 levels of play). It’s not all that easy to do. Just because your a good rebounder doesn’t mean you can play at the BIG level. But in this case, we’re not talking about a pesky 6-6 D3 center. So as I said before - for a 13 mpg target center - I’ll take a 6-10 kid who averaged 10+ boards in a pro league oversees any day.
That’s totally fair, but I stand by the point I made above, and the data from all three levels of NCAA play that supports it. Unless the league is a glorified fraternity rec league consisting of complete non-players (which it’s not - it’s not worse than organized D3) averaging over 10 rpg isn’t “nothing”. Again - only 53 guys did it last year across about 20K NCAA players in D1, D2 and D3. This kid may not translate in other ways but if we had to play him 13 mpg I bet he’d grab 3-4 boards for us minimum. For this reason, I’d be willing to take a chance.
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Did he? That would make 4 schools in 4 years if someone picks him up. Par for the course nowadays I guess.
I have no problem with taking the chance, but not sure I'd want him to be the main backup. It does seem he played in the U19 world cup last year, playing 82 minutes across 7 games averaging 4 and 2.4. also U18 Eurobasket and went 2 and 1, so he has had some youth national team experience, and a couple guys on the team drew some rave reviews so he's played with and against some higher level talent. Funnily, seems his role there was similar to Gurdak as one of two centers on the roster, neither of which were starters as they went with forwards across the front. I believe Luca is on their men's national team.
I was thinking (hoping) by going with him and saving some money to be able to pick up another defensive forward.
Maybe, all just guesswork without having any idea what these players actually cost. If anyone else is remotely interested in a player it cost much more than we think.
Given Pike's recent success with Eastern European players, we have to trust the staff here.
The staff is what we have - for 13 mpg., and if he doesn't cost much, he's worth a shot. Maybe he even stays around and develops.Given Pike's recent success with Eastern European players, we have to trust the staff here.
Perhaps - but we know we contacted DePaul’s 3rd string center which likely means that we shouldn’t expect all that much. We have our 3rd string lined up in Ware already.
I'm not convinced we reached out to him as much as maybe someone on his side reached out to us. Wasn't it said it was RU that wasn't all that interested.