All the money spent by UK in football, all the money spent by FANS for season tic...and still can't get to a bowl game....WKU and their fans get rewarded with a trip to a warm weather bowl in Miami... I am sure they spend a fraction on their tickets and on their program. Depressing for a UK football fan to watch. MAYBE NEXT YEAR! LOL
Miami Beach Bowl, Depressing...
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I'm just glad we didn't play this Western team this year.
I would take the Hatfield McCoy bowl against Pikeville College or Alice Lloyd if we could win 6. It is not happening with next year's schedule.
SEC needs to redo their bowl tie ins. SEC gets Shreveport, Memphis and Birmingham while lesser conferences get Hawaii, Miami and The Bahamas. Seems backwards.
WKU is far from horrible. They would have beat us by 3+ touchdowns this year.
Ridiculous statement to call Western a horrible team! Toppers most likely would've throttled Kentucky this season. And as far as next year goes with that schedule, Cats will be lucky to win 5 games.
You do realize wku would of throttled us this year, right?
All we had to do was beat Vandy and we could have been in some crappy bowl. OR all we had to do was beat UL and hold a 21-0 lead and we'd be in a bowl. We did neither.
I AGREE, The bowl tie-ins are a joke. UK and most other SEC schools would bring far more fans I would think, and would love to go to a warm weather bowl. Don't understand this at all.
You all obviously don't know the UL Troll dorkmeister's schtick. He posts this outlandish sarcastic stuff to try and make the UK fanbase look bad. Then he goes to the UL board, under his UL username, links his posts over here to try and fool them into thinking a UK fan posted it. Then he and his fellow linebeard's have a good chuckle. He's a real weirdo, but he plays most of you like a fiddle.
I'll openly admit that WKU is better than UK this year. UK is really the 3rd best team in the state right now.
With that said I'll be sold on Brohm as a HC for UK once I see what he does with the group of players that wasn't Willie Taggart's or Bobby Petrino. I want to see him build his roster himself. After all that's why his name wasn't called with all of these coaching vacancies this season. He had a 5th year senior at QB. Let's see what he does with the next guy. If he does great and UK is still sputtering I'll be one who will sing his praises for the UK job.
With that said I'll be sold on Brohm as a HC for UK once I see what he does with the group of players that wasn't Willie Taggart's or Bobby Petrino. I want to see him build his roster himself. After all that's why his name wasn't called with all of these coaching vacancies this season. He had a 5th year senior at QB. Let's see what he does with the next guy. If he does great and UK is still sputtering I'll be one who will sing his praises for the UK job.
Regardless of who the players signed under 12-2 is a good record. I've seen a lot of pretty good programs make a coaching change and drop off instantly. I highly doubt our last two hires could of went 12-2 with many teams out there. You still have to have discipline and teach solid fundamental football to end up with that record.
Brohm is not light years ahead of Stoops. Stoops schedule is just light years ahead of Brohms
Brohm is a better offensive coach. Stoops is a better defensive coach. Gotta have defense to win in the SEC. Lesser conferences, not so much. Offense will win a lot of games.
Damn right...somebody needs to go tell Saban that there is no excuse for averaging 35 ppg...hell they had one game they scored 37, but their sorry *** defense gave up 43 and lost...why would you worry about scoring so much
Not sure why everyone automatically assumes that Brohm will leave for another position at some point. WKU will (and can) pay to try to keep him if these results hold up another year. And when the Big12-2 eventually decides to expand, it might make WKU an attractive addition along with Cinti. Those two teams would give WVU the traveling partners that the Big 12-2 originally promised it. And then, boom, WKU is in a P5 conference.
Nothing is too crazy to predict anymore (but not taking bets).
Nothing is too crazy to predict anymore (but not taking bets).
Did you even see Bahamas last year? There was like 20 people there and the stadium looked like a run down high school field.
That better offensive coach down the road beat Vandy, an SEC team this year, something the better defensive coach up here couldn't do. And if they had UK on the schedule this year instead of LSU they would have been undefeated in conference play.
Personally I believe either style head coach can win at that level provided he hires suitable coordinators and assistants to compliment his strengths and cover his weaknesses.
I don't think Steve Spurrier was considered a defensive guru, but he won in the SEC because he hired coordinators like Bob Stoops to take care of things on that side of the ball. Likewise, when Stoops got his chance at OU he hired an offensive guy, Leach to take care of that side of the ball.
Truth is you have to have all three-offense, defense and special teams to win consistently in the SEC or any of the P5 conferences. The best teams have consistent play from all three for the entirety of each game.
This season we barely had all three show up at at any one game and we never got a complete game out of the entire team.
Historically on a good day we get two of three to show up for a half at best and that is why we are what we are and will continue to be until that changes.
Just for some perspective, USF was the biggest win of the year for WKU in terms of rankings.
If you wanna be happy for WKU and support them because they are a state school, thats fine. But if it's just to develop your narrative that WKU would plow through the SEC or that Brohm would have done much better this year, well then you're probably from the rafters anyways.
WKU had a good season and did what they had to do but lets not forget they play in the CUSA. They played one team in regular season in the Top 50 and that was LSU who was in the Top 25 and they got obliterated.
Their best win came against a 9-3 Louisiana Tech and they barely won that by a field goal. And don't forget they lost to a 6-6 Indiana team.
They had a good season but played close to the worst schedule of all FBS. So let's not pretend they would have had similar results in the SEC or that UK wouldn't dominate the schedule they had. And before the Vandy remarks, Vandy got better as the season went along. WKU would not have beat them late in the season just like I think UK would have gotten Vandy early in the year. Vandy's offense never got better, but their defense became pretty good about mid season.
If you wanna be happy for WKU and support them because they are a state school, thats fine. But if it's just to develop your narrative that WKU would plow through the SEC or that Brohm would have done much better this year, well then you're probably from the rafters anyways.
WKU had a good season and did what they had to do but lets not forget they play in the CUSA. They played one team in regular season in the Top 50 and that was LSU who was in the Top 25 and they got obliterated.
Their best win came against a 9-3 Louisiana Tech and they barely won that by a field goal. And don't forget they lost to a 6-6 Indiana team.
They had a good season but played close to the worst schedule of all FBS. So let's not pretend they would have had similar results in the SEC or that UK wouldn't dominate the schedule they had. And before the Vandy remarks, Vandy got better as the season went along. WKU would not have beat them late in the season just like I think UK would have gotten Vandy early in the year. Vandy's offense never got better, but their defense became pretty good about mid season.
Um. I think not going to a bowl is wayyyy more depressing than if we went and played wku or usf. Especially considering since wku has a way better football team than we do. They would take us to the woodshed.
Louisville>wku>vandy>Kentucky. Brohm would coach circles around stoops if that matchup were to happen. It would be an embarrassment for the ages.
Lol. Question do you truly think stoops is a better coach than brohm? Schedule may be harder, but their team is light years better than ours. Very pathetic considering the money and resources put into the wku program compared to ours. And they still field a much better team than us. Plus brohm is a million times better coach than stoops. You know wku beat vandy right? And they also played a competitive game at LSU against a team that would've ran for 300 yards on us and probably beat us by like 4 or 5 tds.
Lots of talk about the Vandy game.... Some say, loosing that game was a season ender... Then there was UofL in the way of 6 wins and that was the de facto season ender...
Looking at two of our wins (LL /EKU) there was just as much to be said about our team in those wins as can be said about the last two games/losses of the season... Call it what you will but from my perspective, I'd call it as dysfunctional a team effort as I have ever seen @ UK... I have seen bad football in my time as a UK fan but this team has/had talent... Up 21 against LL and barely eke out a win... Behind in the EKU game and do the same... Defense couldn't hold a lead and the offense was woefully inept... Individual performances created some highlight reel stuff... As the season wore on the coaching staff got into the action that added to the bizarre brand of football that identified this team... I don't know X's and O's but there was as many WTF moments on defense as there was on offense... All I ask is that the team look, talk, and play like they're on the same page... If a new OC makes that happen then he'll be worth every penny paid... But I don't think Dawson was any more than a part of of a much larger problem on this team... Practice reports this spring should be telling if anyone can get in or be trusted to tell us the truth.... UK fans can handle the truth.... It's the BS we have a hard time with...
Looking at two of our wins (LL /EKU) there was just as much to be said about our team in those wins as can be said about the last two games/losses of the season... Call it what you will but from my perspective, I'd call it as dysfunctional a team effort as I have ever seen @ UK... I have seen bad football in my time as a UK fan but this team has/had talent... Up 21 against LL and barely eke out a win... Behind in the EKU game and do the same... Defense couldn't hold a lead and the offense was woefully inept... Individual performances created some highlight reel stuff... As the season wore on the coaching staff got into the action that added to the bizarre brand of football that identified this team... I don't know X's and O's but there was as many WTF moments on defense as there was on offense... All I ask is that the team look, talk, and play like they're on the same page... If a new OC makes that happen then he'll be worth every penny paid... But I don't think Dawson was any more than a part of of a much larger problem on this team... Practice reports this spring should be telling if anyone can get in or be trusted to tell us the truth.... UK fans can handle the truth.... It's the BS we have a hard time with...
Competitive game vs LSU, Gracie? They lost by 4 TDs. If you want to use a nondescript bowl game for yet another anti-Stoops/UK rant have at it but get your facts right.
Anti stoops rant? So if anyone says a coach is better than stoops it's an anti stoops/UK rant? How hilarious. If you're a stoops critic and don't think he's the best thing since sliced bread then obviously that means you're anti stoops/UK? Ok guy. Because the man is just such a damn good coach and only the blind can't see that right? You are correct they lost by 28. If you watched the game though you'd realize it was a competitive game. Wku did show fight and COMPETED against a good SEC team. You know the teams that casually beat us by 30+ and the games that are always over by halftime? The score was 34-20 midway thru the 4th and was a one TD game by the end of the 3rd. We wouldn't have kept it close against LSU for 3 qrtrs guarantee it. And wku did beat vandy which is a fact BTW. Yes brohm is a much better coach than stoops. Not an anti stoops rant it's a fact. He's beating teams that we're losing to with way less recruiting resources and way less money. Wku would blow us out due to the difference in coaching ability between the 2 coaches. So question. You also think stoops is a better coach than brohm? A nondescript bowl game? It's better than sitting at home watching the teams in these nondescript bowl games. Why do people keep hating on teams that actually made bowl games this year? It's not like we're ever going to anything more than a nondescript bowl game under stoops. IF he even gets us that far. With our schedule I do not see us making a bowl game next year.
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Seems silly to call WKU a 12 win team horrible, UK is lucky they did not play them this year, we barely pulled out the EKU game, WKU would have put up 45 points on the Cats this year.
Some of your points I don't disagree with.... The broader perspective is that I don't think there's any way in hell UK finished anywhere near 12-2 with WKUs schedule.
It's immaterial if Brohm is better than Stoops or Stoops better than Brohm...they haven't played so we'll never know. And comparing scores is futile, tells you nothing. As for LSU-WKU...it was a very business-like 4 TD thrashing by the Tigers, that's typical Miles football.
Your whole deal is to come here and trash anything UK. You climbed up Dawson's ***, now you're gigging Stoops or whomever else comes on your radar. If that what makes your sorry little life meaningful I pity you.
Well we lost to vandy so that's one loss right there. Lsu would've killed us in Death Valley. And to think we would've won out the rest of the games with that schedule considering we needed OT to beat EKU? With this staff? Proposterous.