Miami Beach Bowl, Depressing...

[gobigblue812_rivals29381]

WKU is not horrible but saying they would beat UK by 2 or 3 TDs is just dumb. They got blown out at LSU, lost to a bad Indiana team and barely beat Vandy who barely beat UK. The WKU D is just awful against a bad schedule.



They had a 6th yr SR and had a ton of upperclassmen on O. The backup QB threw for like 70 yards this year. They basically have no returning experience at QB. Lets see what Brohm does next year without his all world QB.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

It's immaterial if Brohm is better than Stoops or Stoops better than Brohm...they haven't played so we'll never know. And comparing scores is futile, tells you nothing. As for LSU-WKU...it was a very business-like 4 TD thrashing by the Tigers, that's typical Miles football.

Your whole deal is to come here and trash anything UK. You climbed up Dawson's ***, now you're gigging Stoops or whomever else comes on your radar. If that what makes your sorry little life meaningful I pity you.

Sorry life? Oh jeez man it's so pathetic how Internet tough guys get on here and try to place personal attacks saying they pity you and your sorry little life. I've been on stoops all season this isn't anything new that I've been doing since Dawson left you kidding? They both suck. If you knew me you wouldn't dare say that to my face I would seriously give you an address and love for you to come say that you pity me and my sorry life to my face, but yet I guarantee you spin that and avoid it by saying you're bigger than that or some ish. You're a vagiant. But I guess the keyboard makes you feel big and bad when you have a computer screen to hide behind. How sad. So you think with wkus schedule we would've done as good or better than 12-2?

 

[mtn cat1]

You want to know what would be even more depressing????? Trying to get up for a pitiful bowl game against a horrible team like WKU or USF.

We have bigger fish to fry next year.

Was that the same would team that beat us the last two or three times we faced them???

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

WKU is not horrible but saying they would beat UK by 2 or 3 TDs is just dumb. They got blown out at LSU, lost to a bad Indiana team and barely beat Vandy who barely beat UK. The WKU D is just awful against a bad schedule.



They had a 6th yr SR and had a ton of upperclassmen on O. The backup QB threw for like 70 yards this year. They basically have no returning experience at QB. Lets see what Brohm does next year without his all world QB.

Lost to a bad Indiana team by 3 that I'm pretty sure almost beat OSU? You do realize we needed a late 4th qrtr comeback to not lose to EKU right? Blown out at lsu? It was a 34-20 game midway thru 4th and a one score game at the end of the 3rd. A blowout to me is when the game is over before halftime like when uk played UT, UGA, and MSU. They played a much more competitive game against LSU than we did against those teams. I'm telling you man this wku team is wayyyyyyy better than EKU and ULL. Probably better than mizzou and USC. We didn't beat a single team as good as WKU this year. Yes they would've probably beat us by 2 or 3 scores this season.

 

[merrimanm]

Lol. Question do you truly think stoops is a better coach than brohm? Schedule may be harder, but their team is light years better than ours. Very pathetic considering the money and resources put into the wku program compared to ours. And they still field a much better team than us. Plus brohm is a million times better coach than stoops. You know wku beat vandy right? And they also played a competitive game at LSU against a team that would've ran for 300 yards on us and probably beat us by like 4 or 5 tds.

I never said Stoops was better than Brohm. But I don't think you can say Brohm is better than Stoops either.
Funny you mention they beat Vandy. Who cares. We should have beaten Vandy too. Not saying much. And they did not play LSU a competitive game. If losing 48-20 is a competitive game then why the hell are people complaining about MSU, UGA, And UL? A 30 PT loss is a 30 PT loss.

And if you don't think schedule plays a part in the outcome of seasons or how a team looks, then I don't know what to tell you. It's funny when you look at WKUs schedule they drill all the weaker teams, but when they play a descent team the barely win and then get blown out by a good team. To say that WKU is way better than us is ridiculous and proves the agenda of some. Are they a good team? Yes. But would we look that good with their schedule? YES!!

 

[Mr Schwump]

Sorry life? Oh jeez man it's so pathetic how Internet tough guys get on here and try to place personal attacks saying they pity you and your sorry little life. I've been on stoops all season this isn't anything new that I've been doing since Dawson left you kidding? They both suck. If you knew me you wouldn't dare say that to my face I would seriously give you an address and love for you to come say that you pity me and my sorry life to my face, but yet I guarantee you spin that and avoid it by saying you're bigger than that or some ish. You're a vagiant. But I guess the keyboard makes you feel big and bad when you have a computer screen to hide behind. How sad. So you think with wkus schedule we would've done as good or better than 12-2?

You come here and berate and insult and I'm the internet tough guy? All righty then.

 

[fuzz77]

Seems silly to call WKU a 12 win team horrible, UK is lucky they did not play them this year, we barely pulled out the EKU game, WKU would have put up 45 points on the Cats this year.

I really dislike when people try to apply the transitive property to compare teams.
Because team A beat team B and team B beat team C...it does not mean that team A will beat team C.
UK beat S.Carolina, S.Carolina beat N.Carolina (and Vandy). N.Carolina has gone 11-2...was UK better than UNC?
Memphis beat Ole Miss, Ole Miss beat Alabama...so was Memphis better than Alabama???

 

[merrimanm]

Lost to a bad Indiana team by 3 that I'm pretty sure almost beat OSU? You do realize we needed a late 4th qrtr comeback to not lose to EKU right? Blown out at lsu? It was a 34-20 game midway thru 4th and a one score game at the end of the 3rd. A blowout to me is when the game is over before halftime like when uk played UT, UGA, and MSU. They played a much more competitive game against LSU than we did against those teams. I'm telling you man this wku team is wayyyyyyy better than EKU and ULL. Probably better than mizzou and USC. We didn't beat a single team as good as WKU this year. Yes they would've probably beat us by 2 or 3 scores this season.

Do you even watch the games? We were still in the games at half time against UT and UGA.

But sense you want to compare scores, here's some for you:
-UK lost to UF by 5 and UF only lost to LSU in Death Valley by a TD
-UK beat USC who lost to LSU in death valley -by 3 TDs, one less than WKU
-UK lost to Auburn 30-27 and Auburn lost LSU in death valley by 24, which is less than WKU

So, looks like if we played LSU, according to how we played the other teams, then we would have loss by less points than WKU had we played LSU.

That being said, comparing scores is just not logical and anyone who know sports will agree with that as style of play and matchups are important when discussing teams going head to head.

 

[merrimanm]

You come here and berate and insult and I'm the internet tough guy? All righty then.

Don't you know we are all idiots accept for this guy? He calls people names in nearly every post and then has enough nerve to call someone an Internet tough guy.

 

[devils58]

Brohm is not light years ahead of Stoops. Stoops schedule is just light years ahead of Brohms

So the same Vandy team that WKU beat isn't the same Vandy team that UK couldn't beat? I love the Cats but Brohm is a fantastic coach and could be our Howard Schnellenberger.

 

[Mr Schwump]

I really dislike when people try to apply the transitive property to compare teams.
Because team A beat team B and team B beat team C...it does not mean that team A will beat team C.
UK beat S.Carolina, S.Carolina beat N.Carolina (and Vandy). N.Carolina has gone 11-2...was UK better than UNC?
Memphis beat Ole Miss, Ole Miss beat Alabama...so was Memphis better than Alabama???

To my point above....comparing scores is futile and proves nothing.

 

[devils58]

 

[merrimanm]

So the same Vandy team that WKU beat isn't the same Vandy team that UK couldn't beat? I love the Cats but Brohm is a fantastic coach and could be our Howard Schnellenberger.

There are other dynamics that are at play here. For example, WKU didn't go through the meat grinder and lose players to injury and have kids playing that are banged up. I would be willing to beat had we played Vandy second game of season instead of UF, then we would have beaten Vandy. Even with that, we should have beaten Vandy by about 2 or 3 TDs. Anyone who watched the game objectively would be able to see that we beat ourselves more than VAndy beat us. We were the better team. We just shot ourselves in the foot like many teams do.

 

[devils58]

It pains me to post this but........... We can't pretend that we're better than WKU right now. We just aren't.

 

[devils58]

There are other dynamics that are at play here. For example, WKU didn't go through the meat grinder and lose players to injury and have kids playing that are banged up. I would be willing to beat had we played Vandy second game of season instead of UF, then we would have beaten Vandy. Even with that, we should have beaten Vandy by about 2 or 3 TDs. Anyone who watched the game objectively would be able to see that we beat ourselves more than VAndy beat us. We were the better team. We just shot ourselves in the foot like many teams do.

I think UK was better too, but we still lost. That is the only stat that matters. I think there is no validity in saying that UK would beat WKU. Just too many examples of UK ineptitude this season, to say other wise. From top to bottom, I think UK has the more talented roster, but let's not take away from what WKU has done. They beat us two years in a row, gone bowling the last two years (great weather games), and beat the only common opponent that UK and WKU faced this year.

Right now WKU is better and that's a massive problem.

 

[merrimanm]

I think UK was better too, but we still lost. That is the only stat that matters. I think there is no validity in saying that UK would beat WKU. Just too many examples of UK ineptitude this season, to say other wise. From top to bottom, I think UK has the more talented roster, but let's not take away from what WKU has done. They beat us two years in a row, gone bowling the last two years (great weather games), and beat the only common opponent that UK and WKU faced this year.

Right now WKU is better and that's a massive problem.

I agree that there is no validity in saying UK would beat WKU. But I also think there is no validity to say that WKU would UK either. Until they play, no one knows. All I am saying is that the higher level you play, the harder it is to win. The harder it is to win, the more people point to how bad a coach is. So again, when Brohm is coaching against the SEC every week, then we can compare. But they played 3 descent teams all year. They barely beat Vandy, which was descent for them, but terrible in the SEC. The lost to LSU, which was average by their and the SECs standards by 4 TDs. They beat USF, who was a descent team, but nothing special, by 10, but gave up 35 points. So I don't think they accomplished anymore than we did. Had we played the FAUs, Old Dominions, MTSUs of the world every week, the Stoops would look pretty smart too is all I am saying.

 

[devils58]

I agree that there is no validity in saying UK would beat WKU. But I also think there is no validity to say that WKU would UK either. Until they play, no one knows. All I am saying is that the higher level you play, the harder it is to win. The harder it is to win, the more people point to how bad a coach is. So again, when Brohm is coaching against the SEC every week, then we can compare. But they played 3 descent teams all year. They barely beat Vandy, which was descent for them, but terrible in the SEC. The lost to LSU, which was average by their and the SECs standards by 4 TDs. They beat USF, who was a descent team, but nothing special, by 10, but gave up 35 points. So I don't think they accomplished anymore than we did. Had we played the FAUs, Old Dominions, MTSUs of the world every week, the Stoops would look pretty smart too is all I am saying.

Having said all of that, look at the resources Stoops has compared to Brohm. That's part of the equation as well. No doubt UK, does well against WKU's schedule, but I honestly think UK loses at least 3 with the same schedule, thus making WKU better IMO.

 

[merrimanm]

Having said all of that, look at the resources Stoops has compared to Brohm. That's part of the equation as well. No doubt UK, does well against WKU's schedule, but I honestly think UK loses at least 3 with the same schedule, thus making WKU better IMO.

I would say they would lose to LSU. Who is the other? Again, if we played Vandy at the beginning of the year, I feel very confident we would have beaten them.

Also, I understand resources. But resources are measured by those who are your competition. And until 3 years ago, UK had piss poor resources compared to who their competition was. That is just not enough time to overcome the many years of being at a disadvantage. WKU on the other hand, has just as good if not better resources than those that they have to compete with.

So yes, UK has better resources than WKU, but not enough to go against their competition. Remember, the players that UK recruited under Joker, which was not the level either team needs to win, are just now leaving the program. There is only a few hold overs. The roster of UK is getting better, but still not there yet. Also, WU has to the luxury of talented and experienced players. The importance of that can't be underestimated. Yes, I feel our roster has more talent, but they are not experienced. That is a HUGE difference. You can throw a young guy in there with a bunch of older guys and be good. But having most 80 to 90% o the 2 deep being inexperienced is not a recipe for success, especially in the SEC.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

Do you even watch the games? We were still in the games at half time against UT and UGA.

But sense you want to compare scores, here's some for you:
-UK lost to UF by 5 and UF only lost to LSU in Death Valley by a TD
-UK beat USC who lost to LSU in death valley -by 3 TDs, one less than WKU
-UK lost to Auburn 30-27 and Auburn lost LSU in death valley by 24, which is less than WKU

So, looks like if we played LSU, according to how we played the other teams, then we would have loss by less points than WKU had we played LSU.

That being said, comparing scores is just not logical and anyone who know sports will agree with that as style of play and matchups are important when discussing teams going head to head.

Wow man you are reaching way too far on this like that's just crazy man. We lost to vandy, wku beat vandy. You can compare common opponents between 2 teams to make analysis of teams. You're just doing this crazy stuff saying this team beat this team by that much so UK would've lost to lsu game by less because of this and that. You obviously don't watch the games if you thought we still had a chance at halftime in any of those games. wku at least played lsu a good game all the way up to halfway thru the 4th. They at least beat vandy. We lost to vandy, we would've lost to lsu. So you really think we would've won out the rest of the games with that schedule? Talk about being logical and someone who doesn't have a clue about anything to do with sports. If comparing common opponents is illogical then I just don't understand you at all man you really have never made any sense in any of the post of read of yours. So I ask again do you truly believe stoops is a better head coach than brohm at this point in time? You said brohm is way better at having a cupcake schedule and that's it. But we lost to vandy and you also agree we would've lost to lsu. So in your opinion. What I am asking is do you think we would've won out at 12-0 outside of those 2 games? Do you really think stoops PROBABLY would've went 12-2 with wkus schedule? That's a serious question. I know you're a big time hardcore stoops apologist but do you truly believe we're better than the 3rd best team in the state and do you truly believe stoops is a better head coach?

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

I would say they would lose to LSU. Who is the other? Again, if we played Vandy at the beginning of the year, I feel very confident we would have beaten them.

Also, I understand resources. But resources are measured by those who are your competition. And until 3 years ago, UK had piss poor resources compared to who their competition was. That is just not enough time to overcome the many years of being at a disadvantage. WKU on the other hand, has just as good if not better resources than those that they have to compete with.

So yes, UK has better resources than WKU, but not enough to go against their competition. Remember, the players that UK recruited under Joker, which was not the level either team needs to win, are just now leaving the program. There is only a few hold overs. The roster of UK is getting better, but still not there yet. Also, WU has to the luxury of talented and experienced players. The importance of that can't be underestimated. Yes, I feel our roster has more talent, but they are not experienced. That is a HUGE difference. You can throw a young guy in there with a bunch of older guys and be good. But having most 80 to 90% o the 2 deep being inexperienced is not a recipe for success, especially in the SEC.

Yep never mind I don't care about your opinion you just said lsu is the only team we would've lost to even though we lost to vandy I just can't with you man it doesn't get dumber than this.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

If we played vandy the first game of the year we would've won? Based on what our 7 point win against a ULL team that's way worse than vandy and wku? Jeez man you can't fix stupid

 

[merrimanm]

Wow man you are reaching way too far on this like that's just crazy man. We lost to vandy, wku beat vandy. You can compare common opponents between 2 teams to make analysis of teams. You're just doing this crazy stuff saying this team beat this team by that much so UK would've lost to lsu game by less because of this and that. You obviously don't watch the games if you thought we still had a chance at halftime in any of those games. wku at least played lsu a good game all the way up to halfway thru the 4th. They at least beat vandy. We lost to vandy, we would've lost to lsu. So you really think we would've won out the rest of the games with that schedule? Talk about being logical and someone who doesn't have a clue about anything to do with sports. If comparing common opponents is illogical then I just don't understand you at all man you really have never made any sense in any of the post of read of yours. So I ask again do you truly believe stoops is a better head coach than brohm at this point in time? You said brohm is way better at having a cupcake schedule and that's it. But we lost to vandy and you also agree we would've lost to lsu. So in your opinion. What I am asking is do you think we would've won out at 12-0 outside of those 2 games? Do you really think stoops PROBABLY would've went 12-2 with wkus schedule? That's a serious question. I know you're a big time hardcore stoops apologist but do you truly believe we're better than the 3rd best team in the state and do you truly believe stoops is a better head coach?

If you don't think that comparing teams are illogical, then you think Memphis is better than Alabama then? You know Ole Miss beat Alabama, and Memphis beat Ole Miss, so Memphis has to be better than Alabama. You can't compare. Matchups play as much into things as anyone. Playing teams a certain times of the season has something to do with it too.

And to answer your question. Do I think Stoops could have went 12-2 with that schedule? Yes, I do!! Stoops is 8-1 against teams that are WKU level or below with the only loss to WKU in his first game as head coach with a team that was less talented, and still almost beat them.

 

[bigbluegrog]

It pains me to post this but........... We can't pretend that we're better than WKU right now. We just aren't.

If we are "pretending".....we can "pretend" whatever we want.... :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[merrimanm]

If we played vandy the first game of the year we would've won? Based on what our 7 point win against a ULL team that's way worse than vandy and wku? Jeez man you can't fix stupid

I said at the first of the year. Not the first game. And the ULL game is tired out. That game was a product of being up big at halftime and having a young team relax thinking the game was already over. I was at the game and you could tell that was the case. and I think this was evident even more with the way we played against UF the very next week.

 

[merrimanm]

If we played vandy the first game of the year we would've won? Based on what our 7 point win against a ULL team that's way worse than vandy and wku? Jeez man you can't fix stupid

And you are right. You can't fix stupid. Which is why I have no clue why I even respond to you.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

If you don't think that comparing teams are illogical, then you think Memphis is better than Alabama then? You know Ole Miss beat Alabama, and Memphis beat Ole Miss, so Memphis has to be better than Alabama. You can't compare. Matchups play as much into things as anyone. Playing teams a certain times of the season has something to do with it too.

And to answer your question. Do I think Stoops could have went 12-2 with that schedule? Yes, I do!! Stoops is 8-1 against teams that are WKU level or below with the only loss to WKU in his first game as head coach with a team that was less talented, and still almost beat them.

Memphis was a damn good team and ole miss needed 5 Alabama turnovers to win. You don't watch the games obviously. Analysis that get paid to do it compare common opponents all the damn time. but ok man if you truly believe we would've went 12-0 outside of the LSU and vandy game then you are truly one crazy mfer we obviously weren't watching the same UK team this year. I don't think we would've went 12-0 against an OVC schedule let alone a C-USA schedule considering we didn't beat one quality team all season. i really didn't expect anything but lalaland magical fairytale opinions from you so I can't act surprised. You're probably the only one who thinks we would've went 12-0 against that schedule on this board. Even the most hardcore stoops apologists probably wouldn't agree with you on this. But why would anyone here expect logic from you?

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

I said at the first of the year. Not the first game. And the ULL game is tired out. That game was a product of being up big at halftime and having a young team relax thinking the game was already over. I was at the game and you could tell that was the case. and I think this was evident even more with the way we played against UF the very next week.

I was at the game and every game for that matter besides the Charlotte game. We didn't think the game was over in the 4th qrtr. No one did and they still had a chance to tie. I guess our eyes were lying to us we won by a lot more than the scoreboard said you're so right. And if they did speaks volumes about these coaches. As I said based on what makes you believe we would've best vandy the first game of the year? Like seriously you can't call anyone stupid ever. You have even more excuses than stoops himself and that's saying a whole lot.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

We were up what like 17 maybe less at halftime? And they thought the game was over? And we want to crown these coaches as UKs saviors? So we just went onto the field after half time and stopped playing because we thought it was over..... Riiigggghhhhhtttt. Or is it that we don't know how to stop an option offense? I think that's more so the reason we only won by 7.

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

I'll openly admit that WKU is better than UK this year. UK is really the 3rd best team in the state right now.
With that said I'll be sold on Brohm as a HC for UK once I see what he does with the group of players that wasn't Willie Taggart's or Bobby Petrino. I want to see him build his roster himself. After all that's why his name wasn't called with all of these coaching vacancies this season. He had a 5th year senior at QB. Let's see what he does with the next guy. If he does great and UK is still sputtering I'll be one who will sing his praises for the UK job.

Why?

According to recruiting services, UKs 'talent' is stacked comparitively. I want a coach who knows what they're doing in weekly preparation and come game time.

The EKU game was a harbinger.

If I were an opposing coach, I'd run read option against UK till they could stop it... Which is never.

Brohm>Stoops.

 

[merrimanm]

We were up what like 17 maybe less at halftime? And they thought the game was over? And we want to crown these coaches as UKs saviors? So we just went onto the field after half time and stopped playing because we thought it was over..... Riiigggghhhhhtttt. Or is it that we don't know how to stop an option offense? I think that's more so the reason we only won by 7.

Have you ever played a sport at all. EVERY team has been a victim of thinking the game was over before it wasn't. Therefore, they lose focus and ultimately momentum that is hard to get back.
Hell, even Alabama blew a 24-0 lead at halftime to Auburn. Is that a reflection of Saban?
And you keep calling me stupid. It gas been my experience that those who call other stupid as the basis of their argument are in reality the one that is stupid. So run along. And quit stalking my posts again, and educate yourself before coming back.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

If you don't think that comparing teams are illogical, then you think Memphis is better than Alabama then? You know Ole Miss beat Alabama, and Memphis beat Ole Miss, so Memphis has to be better than Alabama. You can't compare. Matchups play as much into things as anyone. Playing teams a certain times of the season has something to do with it too.

And to answer your question. Do I think Stoops could have went 12-2 with that schedule? Yes, I do!! Stoops is 8-1 against teams that are WKU level or below with the only loss to WKU in his first game as head coach with a team that was less talented, and still almost beat them.

And obviously you don't understand the concept of comparing common opponents. Your comparisons are just completely dumb. Nothing about what I said is in any way comparable to the ole miss, Memphis, bama comparison you made. UK played vandy. Vandy won. Wku played vandy. Vandy won. You are absolutely crazy if you think me using that comparison of common opponents is any where near the same as saying Memphis beat miss, miss beat bama. So Memphis>bama. How is what I said comparable to that in anyway? You told me that with my logic I'm saying Memphis is better than bama. Simply not the the case those are 2 different ways of comparisons. You have zero logic sir it just never makes sense with you. Did Alabama play Memphis and did ole miss play Memphis this season? That would be called comparing common opponents. memphis did not play both teams. Therefor would not be comparing a common opponent. So what I said is in absolutely no way the same as saying Memphis is better than bama but good try. Vandy played UK and WKu. THAT would be called comparing common opponents. So please explain how the logic I used would be the same thing as calling Memphis better than bama? ill make it easy for you. Wku>vandy and Vandy>UK is nowhere near the same as Memphis>ole miss>bama. But good try.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

Have you ever played a sport at all. EVERY team has been a victim of thinking the game was over before it wasn't. Therefore, they lose focus and ultimately momentum that is hard to get back.
Hell, even Alabama blew a 24-0 lead at halftime to Auburn. Is that a reflection of Saban?
And you keep calling me stupid. It gas been my experience that those who call other stupid as the basis of their argument are in reality the one that is stupid. So run along. And quit stalking my posts again, and educate yourself before coming back.

In my last post where I stated how your logic makes no sense and is no way comparable to the logic I used. I'll just leave it there and let you figure out why you're dumb.

 

[merrimanm]

In my last post where I stated how your logic makes no sense and is no way comparable to the logic I used. I'll just leave it there and let you figure out why you're dumb.

There is nothing to figure out as I know I am not dumb. But again, every time you respond to my post or anyone's that you disagree with you resort to calling the poster ignorant, dumb, stupid, or whatever. Those are responses that dumb, stupid, and ignorant people use.

 

[gobigblue812_rivals29381]

Lost to a bad Indiana team by 3 that I'm pretty sure almost beat OSU? You do realize we needed a late 4th qrtr comeback to not lose to EKU right? Blown out at lsu? It was a 34-20 game midway thru 4th and a one score game at the end of the 3rd. A blowout to me is when the game is over before halftime like when uk played UT, UGA, and MSU. They played a much more competitive game against LSU than we did against those teams. I'm telling you man this wku team is wayyyyyyy better than EKU and ULL. Probably better than mizzou and USC. We didn't beat a single team as good as WKU this year. Yes they would've probably beat us by 2 or 3 scores this season.

Well, using your qualifications, that same Indiana team beat !-AA Southern Illinois by 1 because SIU missed a 2 point conversion at the end of the game. USC beat Vandy too.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

There is nothing to figure out as I know I am not dumb. But again, every time you respond to my post or anyone's that you disagree with you resort to calling the poster ignorant, dumb, stupid, or whatever. Those are responses that dumb, stupid, and ignorant people use.

No just you man I promise you that. You're the only who never makes sense and really has no clue. I don't just say you have no clue. I point out the reasons why before I say that to you. I don't do that to anyone else because I don't think anyone else is near as dumb as you are on this board. Not even close. I gave you my reasons why I say that. Very logical reasons too. You tried to use my argument against me by saying I think Memphis is better than Bama when the comparison you made and the one I made are completey different and in no way comparable. You tried to say with my logic I think Memphis > Bama. But you used different reasoning than I used and somehow tried to use it against me? Just another reason out of a long line of reasons as to why I say these things to you.

 

[ukats22]

It is hard to compare scores, but rather how in general a team plays against other teams is all you can go by, this is how Vegas puts odds on a particular game. BTW on a neutral field WKU would be a 10+ favorite IMO. LSU WKU was very competitive. One score game deep in third, (BTW WKU had some controversial calls that went against them and the game was played in a heavy rain most of the night).

All that being said, to say UK would have a similar record as WKU with the same schedule is not looking at the HOME wins against a terrible ULL team and a tie game against a 1AA team. I did not see UK compete well against any team with any sort of an offense. The wins and close games came against some of the worst Offensive teams in college football. USCjr, Mizzou, UF, EKU, ULL, Vandy Aubrn are all very below average offensive teams.

I believe WKU would present tremendous match up problems with our D and our O is not capable of outscoring anyone.

Of course you do not know what would happen if they played against each other, that is why they play the game, but I know who I would bet on, and if it were at 10 I would bet WKU to cover. I have seen both teams play in person. I do not believe that there would be a contest, sadly.

BTW strength of scheduling is 67 UK which went 5-7 and WKU who went 12 and 2 is just 10 spots down at 77.

ESPN power rankings WKU 31 UK 72.
Sagarin WKU 38 UK 85
RPI WKU 34 UK 85

Dave

 

[merrimanm]

No just you man I promise you that. You're the only who never makes sense and really has no clue. I don't just say you have no clue. I point out the reasons why before I say that to you. I don't do that to anyone else because I don't think anyone else is near as dumb as you are on this board. Not even close. I gave you my reasons why I say that. Very logical reasons too. You tried to use my argument against me by saying I think Memphis is better than Bama when the comparison you made and the one I made are completey different and in no way comparable. You tried to say with my logic I think Memphis > Bama. But you used different reasoning than I used and somehow tried to use it against me? Just another reason out of a long line of reasons as to why I say these things to you.

And I tell you my points as well. Yet you are the one who continues to prove my points on ignorance.

 

[merrimanm]

Well, using your qualifications, that same Indiana team beat !-AA Southern Illinois by 1 because SIU missed a 2 point conversion at the end of the game. USC beat Vandy too.

Don't talk logic to him.

 

[NamelessOne]

Even though some of the people are disagreeing with my statement, not a soul has argued their SOS...which is what I pointed out.

This is the same board that will tell UL their team is a joke for going 7-5 in the ACC and that its a joke conference. But will put WKU up on this pedastal for going 10-2 in Conference USA.

By the way I just did a quick check of the conference rankings, for what its worth Conference USA was ranked at the bottom just behind the Sun Belt....but please carry on with the BCS dark horse Hilltoppers.

 

[KY Hog Man]

Did you even see Bahamas last year? There was like 20 people there and the stadium looked like a run down high school field.

So what! Who cares how many are in the stands? The players would love to get to go to the Bahamas or Miami instead of Nashville, Memphis, or Shreveport.