Miami Beach Bowl, Depressing...

[PushupMan]

I AGREE, The bowl tie-ins are a joke. UK and most other SEC schools would bring far more fans I would think, and would love to go to a warm weather bowl. Don't understand this at all.

The Miami Beach Bowl was created by the American Athletic Conference, and the Bahamas Bowl was created by the MAC in order to provide their schools more opportunities to play in bowl games. That's the reason why you see AAC-CUSA and MWC-CUSA matchups in those two games.

The Miami game is played in Marlins Park (baseball stadium), which seats about 34K for football. The Bahamas Bowl is played in a stadium that usually seats 15K, but can seat up to 30K if necessary. Both of the games are 2 years old.

So as you can probably see, those games at this point don't really care about having a Power5 school in them, though at some point they might. And of course at some point the SEC might see how successful the Bahamas and Miami Beach games are and then decide to create a game in those locations themselves.

As far as the Hawaii game is concerned, the "anchor" for that bowl has always been the University of Hawaii. The stadium does hold 50,000 fans, but outside of UofH, the game never draws a big crowd from any of the participating schools. It's just too remote for a large number of visiting fans to attend on short notice. As a result, the payout for the game is very small, and the schools lose money attending it. A bowl game that loses money for the team (and conference) attending is not something that any of the P5 conferences (especially the SEC) care to participate in.

 

[UKani]

Regardless of who the players signed under 12-2 is a good record. I've seen a lot of pretty good programs make a coaching change and drop off instantly. I highly doubt our last two hires could of went 12-2 with many teams out there. You still have to have discipline and teach solid fundamental football to end up with that record.

Yeah and we've seen coaches who can do well with other talent, but can't build there own team.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

And I tell you my points as well. Yet you are the one who continues to prove my points on ignorance.

I've never seen a non-blue tinted glasses non homer comment from you ever. Every single one of your 'points' all involve unrealistic thinking and hopeful wishing and no evidence of this teams success to back anything up. You just said UK would've PROBABLY gone 12-0 with that schedule. No one that's not a ridiculous homer is going to say that about this years team. No one watching our team this year would say that but you, who is the biggest homer this board has ever seen. You think the game is won with recruits you even said one time coaching is overrated and that it has more to do with talent but ask muschamp how that went. If you can't coach em then it doesn't matter how much talent you have (which still currently ranks 12th and 13th in SEC every year).

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

Don't talk logic to him.

Signed, The guy who said THIS YEARS USC team is as good as LAST YEARS UF team.

 

[merrimanm]

I've never seen a non-blue tinted glasses non homer comment from you ever. Every single one of your 'points' all involve unrealistic thinking and hopeful wishing and no evidence of this teams success to back anything up. You just said UK would've PROBABLY gone 12-0 with that schedule. No one that's not a ridiculous homer is going to say that about this years team. No one watching our team this year would say that but you, who is the biggest homer this board has ever seen. You think the game is won with recruits you even said one time coaching is overrated and that it has more to do with talent but ask muschamp how that went. If you can't coach em then it doesn't matter how much talent you have (which still currently ranks 12th and 13th in SEC every year).

I never said coaching was overrated. And talent is important. But again, you tell lies. I have said many times that there is MANY things that contribute to having a successful team. You just refuse to acknowledge it as it doesn't support your agenda. And I have given you plenty of solid points as all of mine are. But again, it doesn't support your agenda, so you disregard it. And you act like I am an idiot for saying that UK COULD, big difference than WOULD, go 12-2 with that schedule. What is the difference in you saying they couldn't? Since it is all speculation, your thoughts are no more true than mine, yet you act like what you think and say is the gospel. I can tell you are one of the young generation kids who name call and pitch a fit when you don't get what you want or someone disagrees with you. Grow up. The world isn't about you and people are going to disagree.

 

[merrimanm]

Signed, The guy who said THIS YEARS USC team is as good as LAST YEARS UF team.

Ahhhh....there it is. I new it was coming. The fact that you continue to use the same tired argument means that you really don't have an argument at all.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

I never said coaching was overrated. And talent is important. But again, you tell lies. I have said many times that there is MANY things that contribute to having a successful team. You just refuse to acknowledge it as it doesn't support your agenda. And I have given you plenty of solid points as all of mine are. But again, it doesn't support your agenda, so you disregard it. And you act like I am an idiot for saying that UK COULD, big difference than WOULD, go 12-2 with that schedule. What is the difference in you saying they couldn't? Since it is all speculation, your thoughts are no more true than mine, yet you act like what you think and say is the gospel. I can tell you are one of the young generation kids who name call and pitch a fit when you don't get what you want or someone disagrees with you. Grow up. The world isn't about you and people are going to disagree.

You said PROBABLY!! No agenda I want UK football to succeed but I'm not going to be the biggest homer their ever was in doing so I'm at least going to be realistic about the situation at hand. I'm not going to sit there and say stupid outlandish things like stoops is a better coach than brohm and that we would've probably went 12-0 this year with that schedule when we did nothing on the field to suggest that. You say all of your points are solid. No man there all effing homer asfuh wishful thoughts that have no merit because stoops has shown NOTHING on the field yet. Absolutely nothing. WE REGRESSED BETWEEN YEARS 2 AND 3 FOR HEAVENS SAKE AND WE RETURNED ALMOST OUR ENTIRE TEAM!! Brohm has shown something on the field. That's the difference between the 2. One is proven, one isn't and you still pretend like stoops is doing great things on Saturdays in the fall and is a better coach than brohm.

Listen to you if someone thinks stoops is a horrible coach (which thus far he has proven to be an awful, very inept in game head coach, we never made any adjustments thru out the entire year) then they have an agenda? No it's called being realistic. If stoops was doing good things on the field and fulfilling his preseason promises to fans and if I was seeing improvement from our team. Then I would say a lot more good things then negative things! But the fact of the matter is our team is regressing, there's no improvement from the previous year to this year, he makes more in game mistakes than any coach I've ever seen. He hasn't proven to be good at all at this point and you still sit there and make excuses for stoops and make up reasons as to why he's doing a great job. I'm not going to pretend like this staff is doing great things when they're simply haven't done anything great as of yet.

You did say coaching is overrated btw I'll find the post if I have to! You don't have to agree with me to be reasonable, you're just not reasonable though, every single one of your points all talk about the great things UK has been doing and is going to do with no factual evidence to prove great things are to come. These solid points you claim you have are as pathetic as this years UK team! Which was a pathetic 'team' btw. Yet you still act like stoops is doing great things. The only great thing he has going for him is the money being invested in the program (which is a HUGE REASON for our improved recruiting success, compare our old recruiting 'room' to the one we have now, no wonder we're getting better recruits) but that's not stoops doing that's the fed up fans doing that demand a good football team for once and stoops ain't giving us that! Hence my displeasure and how annoying your blue tinted misguided wishful opinions are to me because we haven't done anything noteworthy on the field since stoops has been here. You act like stoops is guaranteed success at UK when he so far has been a very awful head coach. Please give me a 'solid point of yours like all of them' that suggest stoops is a better head coach than brohm??? We've already lost to wku once with a more talented team than wku. Let's hear it!

 

[merrimanm]

You said PROBABLY!! No agenda I want UK football to succeed but I'm not going to be the biggest homer their ever was in doing so I'm at least going to be realistic about the situation at hand. I'm not going to sit there and say stupid outlandish things like stoops is a better coach than brohm and that we would've probably went 12-0 this year with that schedule when we did nothing on the field to suggest that. You say all of your points are solid. No man there all effing homer asfuh wishful thoughts that have no merit because stoops has shown NOTHING on the field yet. Absolutely nothing. WE REGRESSED BETWEEN YEARS 2 AND 3 FOR HEAVENS SAKE AND WE RETURNED ALMOST OUR ENTIRE TEAM!! Brohm has shown something on the field. That's the difference between the 2. One is proven, one isn't and you still pretend like stoops is doing great things on Saturdays in the fall and is a better coach than brohm.

Listen to you if someone thinks stoops is a horrible coach (which thus far he has proven to be an awful, very inept in game head coach, we never made any adjustments thru out the entire year) then they have an agenda? No it's called being realistic. If stoops was doing good things on the field and fulfilling his preseason promises to fans and if I was seeing improvement from our team. Then I would say a lot more good things then negative things! But the fact of the matter is our team is regressing, there's no improvement from the previous year to this year, he makes more in game mistakes than any coach I've ever seen. He hasn't proven to be good at all at this point and you still sit there and make excuses for stoops and make up reasons as to why he's doing a great job. I'm not going to pretend like this staff is doing great things when they're simply haven't done anything great as of yet.

You did say coaching is overrated btw I'll find the post if I have to! You don't have to agree with me to be reasonable, you're just not reasonable though, every single one of your points all talk about the great things UK has been doing and is going to do with no factual evidence to prove great things are to come. These solid points you claim you have are as pathetic as this years UK team! Which was a pathetic 'team' btw. Yet you still act like stoops is doing great things. The only great thing he has going for him is the money being invested in the program (which is a HUGE REASON for our improved recruiting success, compare our old recruiting 'room' to the one we have now, no wonder we're getting better recruits) but that's not stoops doing that's the fed up fans doing that demand a good football team for once and stoops ain't giving us that! Hence my displeasure and how annoying your blue tinted misguided wishful opinions are to me because we haven't done anything noteworthy on the field since stoops has been here. You act like stoops is guaranteed success at UK when he so far has been a very awful head coach. Please give me a 'solid point of yours like all of them' that suggest stoops is a better head coach than brohm??? We've already lost to wku once with a more talented team than wku. Let's hear it!

You obviously can't read. I never said Stoops was better than Brohm. But I also don't agree that Brohm is better than Stoops. Big difference.

And I never said coaching was overrated. I said a coach gets to much credit and too much blame. That statement is true most of the time.

And the fact that you give zero credit to Stoops for recruitng is asinine and proves your agenda even more. You actually believe that it is the fans that have caused better recruiting. The irony in that, is thsee same fans, including you, also have been screeming that the recruit classes will fall apart because Stoops is awful. So far, yall have been wrong and actually, many recruits have said that they still believe in Stoops and said they were still 100%. To say Stoops and staff have nothing to do with it is ridiculous. Yet you want to act like you know everything. Wow.

 

[catsfanbgky]

Just for some perspective, USF was the biggest win of the year for WKU in terms of rankings.

If you wanna be happy for WKU and support them because they are a state school, thats fine. But if it's just to develop your narrative that WKU would plow through the SEC or that Brohm would have done much better this year, well then you're probably from the rafters anyways.

WKU had a good season and did what they had to do but lets not forget they play in the CUSA. They played one team in regular season in the Top 50 and that was LSU who was in the Top 25 and they got obliterated.

Their best win came against a 9-3 Louisiana Tech and they barely won that by a field goal. And don't forget they lost to a 6-6 Indiana team.

They had a good season but played close to the worst schedule of all FBS. So let's not pretend they would have had similar results in the SEC or that UK wouldn't dominate the schedule they had. And before the Vandy remarks, Vandy got better as the season went along. WKU would not have beat them late in the season just like I think UK would have gotten Vandy early in the year. Vandy's offense never got better, but their defense became pretty good about mid season.

I do not give a damn about Vandy, CUSA, La Tech USF or anyone else WKU played, all I know is this, they owned us the last two times they played us, we got embarrassed and dropped the yearly meeting because we got plowed by the Sun Belt / CUSA team. I care about what UK would do against WKU, and for all the talent advantages we are suppose to have, WKU would beat UK everyday and twice on Sunday if we renewed the series as it stands now. Petrino nothing, Brohm recruited a lot of the players at WKU and BD left campus and was quitting WKU and Brohm talked him into staying, he hated Petrino. I would have bet you any amount of money you wanted to lose, if they played this year, WKU would drop at least 40 on us, not a chance in hell would have been able to keep up. Keep beating your "we are a SEC school" shirt covering your chest, we are not too big or better than WKU, I wished we where comparable SEC or not. "We posed to be SEC" and we are only by affiliation right now. UK with WKu's schedule this year, maybe make a bowl, 0% chance we go 12-2. Hell it was a miracle we beat EKU and they fired their coach for the horrible season they had, what does that tell you ? 8 home games, weak AF schedule, and finish 5-7. Name one damn team we beat that was as good / better than WKU ? Might want to un puff that chest just a bit, somebody from a little ole CUSA or Sun Belt conference might do it for you.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

You obviously can't read. I never said Stoops was better than Brohm. But I also don't agree that Brohm is better than Stoops. Big difference.

And I never said coaching was overrated. I said a coach gets to much credit and too much blame. That statement is true most of the time.

And the fact that you give zero credit to Stoops for recruitng is asinine and proves your agenda even more. You actually believe that it is the fans that have caused better recruiting. The irony in that, is thsee same fans, including you, also have been screeming that the recruit classes will fall apart because Stoops is awful. So far, yall have been wrong and actually, many recruits have said that they still believe in Stoops and said they were still 100%. To say Stoops and staff have nothing to do with it is ridiculous. Yet you want to act like you know everything. Wow.

No i said the money we are putting into the program is a huge reason for recruiting success, and I said the fans are the reason we are putting so much money into the program, which is very true. Compare our old recruiting room to the one we have now. Just do it man it's hilarious. Obviously we're going to recruit better with resources like that. I'll give him some credit for it forsure he does recruit well but he's not a good coach so it really doesn't matter how well he recruits. He's done nothing to prove he's a good head coach. Nothing. Brohm has. HUGE DIFFERENCE. No agenda. Just a horrible head coach from what i see. And there are facts that do suggest brohm is a better head coach. There's no facts to suggest otherwise. Yes we are getting recruits. Why does it matter if we can't coach them? I just can't get excited about all these stud recruits knowing stoops is the one coaching them. Keep being the biggest homer here man as long as you know you're a hardcore homer than its cool can't get mad.

 

[merrimanm]

No i said the money we are putting into the program is a huge reason for recruiting success, and I said the fans are the reason we are putting so much money into the program, which is very true. Compare our old recruiting room to the one we have now. Just do it man it's hilarious. Obviously we're going to recruit better with resources like that. I'll give him some credit for it forsure he does recruit well but he's not a good coach so it really doesn't matter how well he recruits. He's done nothing to prove he's a good head coach. Nothing. Brohm has. HUGE DIFFERENCE. No agenda. Just a horrible head coach from what i see. And there are facts that do suggest brohm is a better head coach. There's no facts to suggest otherwise. Yes we are getting recruits. Why does it matter if we can't coach them? I just can't get excited about all these stud recruits knowing stoops is the one coaching them. Keep being the biggest homer here man as long as you know you're a hardcore homer than its cool can't get mad.

Not a homer. I have said stoops needed to do some things different many times. But that is not saying he can't coach. The guy has done well every place he has been. He didn't wake up forgetting how to coach and develop talent. There are things he I learning as a head coach and he is going to make mistakes. Still doesn't mean he is a bad coach. And again, he hasn't had enough time to develop that talent. As I have said many times, his first real class just needed their sophomore and freshmen years.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

Not a homer. I have said stoops needed to do some things different many times. But that is not saying he can't coach. The guy has done well every place he has been. He didn't wake up forgetting how to coach and develop talent. There are things he I learning as a head coach and he is going to make mistakes. Still doesn't mean he is a bad coach. And again, he hasn't had enough time to develop that talent. As I have said many times, his first real class just needed their sophomore and freshmen years.

Idk in what way he's developed talent? At FSU you get the top guys to work with, and at UK the players have pretty much played the same as they did the day they arrived such as Elam, towles, hatcher. Baker, bone, many many more. Only one I can think of that truly improved leaps and bounds is Forrest. Hell even bud had a less productive year his senior year compared to his junior year. Zadarius smith had an identical season to his first year here. I just don't see where these players have developed and I don't see where in our record that indicates player development. We almost lost to eku man. I know you have an excuse for it or you're going to say we won so score doesn't matter but the gods honest truth is we almost lost to eku and got outplayed by them for 55 minutes.

There have been way too many coordinators that have switched to head coaches who have failed to pretend stoops is guaranteed success as a head coach. I give it to him he's a good DC. He as of now is not a good HC in any imaginable way.. Look at muschamp for example. Being a good coordinator in no way shape or form means someone is going to be a good head coach. His first real class btw just ended their junior year. Next year will be seniors. I'm guessing after we finish 5-7 next year you're going to give him a pass and say he needs more time still? One thing I've noticed on this board is no one really replies to you but me. And that's because you were still vouching for joker thru out his 3rd year here so everyone is used to your homer posts and they don't even bother anymore.

 

[merrimanm]

Idk in what way he's developed talent? At FSU you get the top guys to work with, and at UK the players have pretty much played the same as they did the day they arrived such as Elam, towles, hatcher. Baker, bone, many many more. Only one I can think of that truly improved leaps and bounds is Forrest. Hell even bud had a less productive year his senior year compared to his junior year. Zadarius smith had an identical season to his first year here. I just don't see where these players have developed and I don't see where in our record that indicates player development. We almost lost to eku man. I know you have an excuse for it or you're going to say we won so score doesn't matter but the gods honest truth is we almost lost to eku and got outplayed by them for 55 minutes.

There have been way too many coordinators that have switched to head coaches who have failed to pretend stoops is guaranteed success as a head coach. I give it to him he's a good DC. He as of now is not a good HC in any imaginable way.. Look at muschamp for example. Being a good coordinator in no way shape or form means someone is going to be a good head coach. His first real class btw just ended their junior year. Next year will be seniors. I'm guessing after we finish 5-7 next year you're going to give him a pass and say he needs more time still? One thing I've noticed on this board is no one really replies to you but me. And that's because you were still vouching for joker thru out his 3rd year here so everyone is used to your homer posts and they don't even bother anymore.

First, I don't care who replies to me. Secondly, using Bud and Z as evidence is really counter productive. Numbers don't always tell the story. In the case of those two guys, they really dont.

 

[catsfanbgky]

WKU's two losses : Indiana (6-6)
Big Ten team, played Ohio State very tough, losing in the final minute 34-27, lost to Iowa 35-27, both top 6 teams, Indiana is a bowl team, we are not.

LSU (8-3) WKU played very well, couple of costly turnover early 4th qtr sealed their fate and ended a upset bid. And yes they had a chance to do it, it was a monsoon at LSU that night, definitely hurt Doughty and the very potent WKU passing attack. It was 17-13 in the third when LSU got a lucky jump ball with the LSU receiver pushed off Wonderful Terry the WKU defensive back for a 61 yard td.

WKU good wins :

MTSU (7-5) 58-28. MTSU is a Bowl team, beat Charlotte 73-14 ( I know why point this out) MTSU beat by 59 points, that is 11 more than UK did (58-10)

Marshall (9-3) 49-28. Bowl team

So. Miss (9-3) 45-28. Bowl team, they only lost to Miss St 34-16, we lost 42-16. Minor difference, but I mean we are suppose to SEC not some little CUSA school, should compete better.

USF (8-4) 45-35. Bowl team, and USF rolled another bowl team Cinn 65-27, and only lost to Memphis 24-17, big bad SEC Ole Miss was blown out by Memphis, SEC teams should compete against, ah hell blow out little conference teams like Memphis, not lose to them.

WKU beat at least 4 bowl teams, lost close games to two other bowl teams in their only losses.

UK, big bad SEC school did not beat any bowl team, only beat one team with a winning record (Division 2 EKU who finished with a superb record of 6-5. EKU fired its coach for such a horrible year, and damn near beat the mighty SEC team, if not for a 2 td in the last 5 minutes comeback.

also beat SC (3-9), Mizzou (5-7), Charlotte (2-10), La Laff (4-8). Combined record of the teams UK beat, including two teams from little ole no name conferences and Div 2 EKU, 20-39.

A lot of these are pretty petty numbers and examples, just like a lot of the arguments that UK is in the SEC and WKU plays in the CUSA are petty also.

Bottom line, one team from the state of KY lined up and beat the guys on the other sidelines and the other team did not. I love and will continue to cheer and support the CATS, but to act like EVERY coach and player is free from criticism is just plain homerism. This team from top to bottom needs to take a long look in the mirror, do a check up from the neck up, and get ish right.

Forget all this drama, primadona, play when you feel like it crap. Not as good as you think you are, so it may be a good idea to actually give maximum effort every play and act like you care about winning and playing as a team, and the coaching staff needs to hold everyone accountable, put them in a position to win, actually have a game plan, and know wtf you are doing / going to do in critical situations when it comes. 8 men on the field, icing your own kicker, running head scratching plays time and time again, just a few examples.

 

[ukalum1988]

You said PROBABLY!! No agenda I want UK football to succeed but I'm not going to be the biggest homer their ever was in doing so I'm at least going to be realistic about the situation at hand. I'm not going to sit there and say stupid outlandish things like stoops is a better coach than brohm and that we would've probably went 12-0 this year with that schedule when we did nothing on the field to suggest that. You say all of your points are solid. No man there all effing homer asfuh wishful thoughts that have no merit because stoops has shown NOTHING on the field yet. Absolutely nothing. WE REGRESSED BETWEEN YEARS 2 AND 3 FOR HEAVENS SAKE AND WE RETURNED ALMOST OUR ENTIRE TEAM!! Brohm has shown something on the field. That's the difference between the 2. One is proven, one isn't and you still pretend like stoops is doing great things on Saturdays in the fall and is a better coach than brohm.

Listen to you if someone thinks stoops is a horrible coach (which thus far he has proven to be an awful, very inept in game head coach, we never made any adjustments thru out the entire year) then they have an agenda? No it's called being realistic. If stoops was doing good things on the field and fulfilling his preseason promises to fans and if I was seeing improvement from our team. Then I would say a lot more good things then negative things! But the fact of the matter is our team is regressing, there's no improvement from the previous year to this year, he makes more in game mistakes than any coach I've ever seen. He hasn't proven to be good at all at this point and you still sit there and make excuses for stoops and make up reasons as to why he's doing a great job. I'm not going to pretend like this staff is doing great things when they're simply haven't done anything great as of yet.

You did say coaching is overrated btw I'll find the post if I have to! You don't have to agree with me to be reasonable, you're just not reasonable though, every single one of your points all talk about the great things UK has been doing and is going to do with no factual evidence to prove great things are to come. These solid points you claim you have are as pathetic as this years UK team! Which was a pathetic 'team' btw. Yet you still act like stoops is doing great things. The only great thing he has going for him is the money being invested in the program (which is a HUGE REASON for our improved recruiting success, compare our old recruiting 'room' to the one we have now, no wonder we're getting better recruits) but that's not stoops doing that's the fed up fans doing that demand a good football team for once and stoops ain't giving us that! Hence my displeasure and how annoying your blue tinted misguided wishful opinions are to me because we haven't done anything noteworthy on the field since stoops has been here. You act like stoops is guaranteed success at UK when he so far has been a very awful head coach. Please give me a 'solid point of yours like all of them' that suggest stoops is a better head coach than brohm??? We've already lost to wku once with a more talented team than wku. Let's hear it!

I'm not going to waste time reading this. Welcome to my Ignore List opcorn:

 

[PushupMan]

And you act like I am an idiot for saying that UK COULD, big difference than WOULD, go 12-2 with that schedule. What is the difference in you saying they couldn't? Since it is all speculation, your thoughts are no more true than mine, yet you act like what you think and say is the gospel. I can tell you are one of the young generation kids who name call and pitch a fit when you don't get what you want or someone disagrees with you. Grow up. The world isn't about you and people are going to disagree.

These types of discussions always amuse me, as they are so easy to settle ... yet people get so aggravated with each other that they would rather argue than consider a non-biased source to settle the argument.

Sagarin Predictor says (UK 65.88, home field +2.69):
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@Vandy 65.98 Loss (Close)
LaTech 69.12 Loss (Close)
@Indiana 69.71 Loss
Miami(Oh) 47.48 Win
@Rice 49.67 Win
Middle Tennessee 66.90 Win (Close)
@North Texas 41.28 Win
@LSU 82.61 Loss
@Old Dominion 45.82 Win
FAU 54.31 Win
@FIU 52.56 Win
Marshall 69.02 Loss (Close)
(Regular Season: 7-5, 5-3 in CUSA)

UK wouldn't qualify for the CUSA championship game in that case (Marshall would), but just in case they did, had they played USM, Sagarin predicts a loss to Southern Miss (70.04).

And in the Miami Beach Bowl, Sagarin predicts another loss to South Florida (75.12), for a final record of 7-7.

The good news for UK would be that 4 of the losses would be very close, while only one of the wins would be in the same category. What that means to me is that a "worst case, lose every close game" scenario would be 6-8, while "best case, win every close game" would be 11-3.

 

[murpack]

Brohm is a better offensive coach. Stoops is a better defensive coach. Gotta have defense to win in the SEC. Lesser conferences, not so much. Offense will win a lot of games.

Stoops defenses can't even tackle

 

[Woodrow24]

Stoops resume proves that he has been a successful defensive coach. Whether that will translate to being a good head coach we will have to wait and see.

The good things we have seen that we can all agree on is the recruiting. I've been surprised at how well he has done here considering the win/loss records we have had in the past and present. Because of our tradition and facilities I doubt any of the other coaches that could have been interested (probably very few) in this job could have out recruited this staff. I know people cry that we are still in the back of the pack in conference recruiting rankings but those people need to realize that we are a traditionally bad football school in the best football conference in the dang country. That won't change over night. The past AD's and our current one are to blame for that. Stoops recruiting has been terrific considering all of those factors.

The bad that I've seen is the lack of fundamentals, in game coaching and preparation. I've never seen a division one football team drop so many passes in one season. Their is no excuse for that to happen so often with division one athletes. So many in game coaching blunders like in the EKU game, Vandy, and Louisville. A preparation example was not preparing for Lamar Jackson at all the week of the Louisville game. The excuse given for that was mind boggling. Expecting them to throw because that's what they did to them last year. They didn't have that freak athlete quarterback last year. They played him in games all season long and to not prepare for that is just plain stupid. WTH does last year have to do with this year? Things like this are what worries me about stoops. I just hope the hiring of more experienced coaches will offset a lot of the negative I have listed and help UK build off the good recruiting by having better coaches prepare these boys. I have more issues with the offense than the defense and I think the hiring of Gran will really push this program to have a much better team for next season.

 

[.S&C.]

WKU

You do realize wku would of throttled us this year, right?

WKU would have slammed stoops in his 3rd year of an SEC program.

Just great decisions all around for our administration.

And don't think for a minute our admins don't know Brohm is the real deal. They have no intentions of building a long lasting winning program so you'll never see someone like him being offered. They'll let him end up at Louisville where they actually give a crap about their football program. We will continue to make stupid hires and take sec pie money. It's that simple.the day we earn what we get, is the day we start competing. Either that, or an AD with a vision.

Until then it will always just be more of the same. For those that don't agree, you'll be using the same old arguments over your lifetime. I hope you enjoy backing losers because that's all your going to get.