Perhaps every one else is aware but I just read that Mountain Island Charter is not being allowed to participate in the Playoffs due to a fight with Carver players a couple of weeks ago. Article in WS Journal quotes their coach as saying he takes full responsibility for the situation, and the school withdrew their appeal after reviewing the film and official's reports.
MIC not in Playoffs
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I hadn’t seen this. Big news if so. I have heard from people from around the MIC area that they play by a totally different set of rules down that way and they basically just say play and have no control and let the players do whatever they want to do.
Yes it was a hot topic on Saturday when the preliminary brackets came out
Isn’t this like real life. Some don’t play by the rules and some let them do it. But nobody lets them know they are consequences for not playing by the rules. Kids will be kids and should know better but they are no excuse for coaches or officials to let them get away with it. What have they taught these young men
After watching the video on Twitter all I can saw is wow, the NCHSAA should be ashamed of this decision. And I’m no MIC fan, but they were unfairly penalized to say the least. Their kids were even trying to go back to their bench and Carver followed and came over to them. What a terrible terrible decisions by a group of adults with all the power.
Watch the video brother then let me know what you think had it been your team. What’s being said about MIC on here is simply not the case as to what happened. Honestly I’m shocked after seeing the video, it’s the exact opposite of what I was expecting.
I seen better fights than that in church
I'm not a MICS fan, AT ALL, but they got a raw deal on that.
I’m stunned. Not at all what I was expecting. Sorry to the MIC kids you deserved better than this. And I would say the same if it were any of our teams
I’m not taking sides at all but a short piece of video is not proving anything either way. The officials on the field and coaching staff shouldn’t have let it go that far. Players know that fighting has consequences and clearing the bench will not be tolerated. It’s a tough call but if you don’t go by the rules they would be a brawl every week. This can’t just be swept under the rug. Just my opinion.
Carver was booted too right?
I just didn’t see enough in that clip to justify being kicked out of the playoffs
Hard to judge anything from a 1 minute video. Who knows what really happened, or what was said. It could be the coach's punishment rather than the players...
I agree just looking at the short film didn't seem much ,I tried to look the game up on NFHS to see more of it but it's not on their ondemand games. If MIC coach withdrew his appeal after watching the film and reading the referee's report maybe there more to see in a longer film or maybe something in the reports that changed his mind that we'll probably never know about but something obviously got him to drop it.
It is but they went from being at the line of scrimmage to the sideline so what didn’t we see? After watching the way refs call games I am just not sure that I can trust their judgement in a situation like this either
First thing I saw was a MIC boy go down at the line scrimmage then two boys lock up and another MIC boy came over and pushed the Carver boy then all the mic boys started walking to their bench but you could see that one blue uniform of the same boy in the middle and that's what his teammates seemed to take exception to whatever was going on with the boy in the middle of that group. But as far clearing the bench just looked like Carver did but ether way I was expecting a lot more to it very short fight.
Funny how MIC is getting attention for being booted but not Carver. Even the Winston-Salem Journal had this story but not a word about the local team.
I guess is because MIC was 9-1 and would have been the #4 seed and Carver was a 5-5 team who would have been #18 but yeah being a local team they probably should have wrote about them.
I tried to watch it several times but didn't see any punches thrown. All who left bench should have automatic ejections. With Carver fighting is no stranger. Their cheerleaders were suspended during a season for a scuffle with WS Preps cheerleaders just a couple years back.
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Wow I am disappointed to say the least. I think both schools should be allowed to participate in the playoffs. Come on nchsaa how did you botch this thing. Just fine both schools 1,000 to 5,000 each and call it a day. Bet that find will get their attention. But this is weak. No real aggressors or even a real fight. Terrible decision by the Terrible nchsaa
Unfortunately there are schools across the nation in which it doesn't matter how good the coach is and how hard we works on getting kids disciplined, there are kids that are going to get in a fight. In many areas it's just a natural response, and something we'll never understand because many of us have never grown up in these areas, and we don't know what it's like.
Putting that aside, a whole team shouldn't be punished for the actions of a handful unless it's an ongoing theme multiple times.
Putting that aside, a whole team shouldn't be punished for the actions of a handful unless it's an ongoing theme multiple times.
Let's not make excuses for them like it's not their fault. That's what got us here in the first place.
I don’t condone bad behavior on the field but I didn’t see much and if kids did do something wrong. Punish the individuals
Like I said before, we don't know what happened, or what was said. The coach saw the video, and he cancelled the appeal, and claimed responsibility, so he must have known they were in the wrong. There could have been multiple warnings throughout the game before this, who knows? There could have been punches thrown that we can't see from 56 seconds of grainy footage shot from the top of the press box.
Im not taking anyone's side in this. The video shows us nothing, but on the flip side, the NCHSAA doesn't disqualify 2 teams from their money pot without good reason...
Simple. Leaving the bench is an automatic ejection. If a team exceeds a certain threshold number of ejections it is banned from the playoffs.
I think that is all it was. The benches cleared. I know that’s the rule but that rule needs to change
You talking about WS Journal, if it’s not East Forsyth, Reagan , West Forsyth or Glenn, there is no coverage. They just took a story from another paper and ran with It. OBTW, those 4 schools don’t get much coverage.
The video absolutely shows under the rules that both teams should be out of the playoffs. There is a limit to how many ejections or fighting ejections you can have before you ate ineligible for the playoffs. Leaving the bench during a fight is an ejection. by the rules, this is a cut an dried decsion.
That being said, I do think there needs to be some difference between stepping a few steps on a field and being actively involved in a fight. I have not put enough thought into it to suggest a perfect rule, but I think at times the NCHSAA punishment is excessive.
And with THAT being said, coaches are made aware of these rules and should specifically instruct their kids as to what to do if there is a fight, those ARE the rules.
So while I dont really agree with how this situation is administere by the rules, here it was definitley done correctly.
That being said, I do think there needs to be some difference between stepping a few steps on a field and being actively involved in a fight. I have not put enough thought into it to suggest a perfect rule, but I think at times the NCHSAA punishment is excessive.
And with THAT being said, coaches are made aware of these rules and should specifically instruct their kids as to what to do if there is a fight, those ARE the rules.
So while I dont really agree with how this situation is administere by the rules, here it was definitley done correctly.