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Barrellroll

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Our upper weights have looked good. The unknown is the level of the competition. I really wish there were some top guys we could have faced. Not the fault of our guys as they can only wrestle who is in front of team.
 
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Harer knocking off Miller , Barbosa and Ford beating Mulvaney , Cotton beating Correa, SCW running through everyone and putting up points.. this is the best the team has looked in awhile
 
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SCNJ

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Kiddagger311 said:
You make it sound like he had a lucky tournament. Turley had a lucky tournament. Maybe even Theobold. Shawver was having a really good year not just the b10 and nationals. Look up who he beat that season. After he TF Ragusin to be a b10 champ, many people actually predicted him to be top 4 at nationals. So no, his 7th place at nationals was not a overachieve, think he got the 5th seed?

Ofc after that season who wouldn’t think he would at least be a AA contender the following 2 years. He clearly is not the same wrestler as before. What are you talking about not crediting the wrestler?? Did Goodale not dubb Shawver as “the face of the program?” Everyone knows he wasn’t a blue chipper outa hs and gave him his flowers when he AA’d

Your the one saying him and Poz are in reality R12/R16 guys that got lucky. I’m saying no, they were wrestling diff when they were at their peak, there was more fire they were AA lvl and at some point lost their way.
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What are you talking about? Who said it was luck? He earned every bit of it, he wrestled to his absolute peak. But when his career is over, you’re going to see a guy who was R12/R16 3x and AA once. Is he an AA talent who failed to live up to expectations or is he a perennial top 16 guy who absolutely killed it one year. Call that whatever you want.
 
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Kiddagger311

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SCNJ said:
What are you talking about? Who said it was luck? He earned every bit of it, he wrestled to his absolute peak. But when his career is over, you’re going to see a guy who was R12/R16 3x and AA once. Is he an AA talent who failed to live up to expectations or is he a perennial top 16 guy who absolutely killed it one year. Call that whatever you want.
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Do you not read?
“The big 10 tournament and national tournament was the best he’s ever wrestled in his life. Like Poz, he overachieved at a great time, and then returned back to his normal ability. Both guys were/are career R16/R12 wrestlers that had great tournaments one year. Human nature we expect them to elevate their abilities after that, in reality they just “regressed” to what they really are. There’s no shame in that.”

You’re basically implying Shawver is a career R12/R16 guy that had one overachieving outlier year. He’s not “regressing” he’s just reverting back to what he truly is all along.

You have an interesting way of being a white knight and protecting the coaching staff at all costs. I’m not even blaming the coaching staff, yet your white knight sonars just fire to protect protect.. you can sugar coat it all you want. I’m just pointing the facts that Shawver is not the same wrestler he was his soph year.
 
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SCNJ

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Kiddagger311 said:
Do you not read?
“The big 10 tournament and national tournament was the best he’s ever wrestled in his life. Like Poz, he overachieved at a great time, and then returned back to his normal ability. Both guys were/are career R16/R12 wrestlers that had great tournaments one year. Human nature we expect them to elevate their abilities after that, in reality they just “regressed” to what they really are. There’s no shame in that.”

You’re basically implying Shawver is a career R12/R16 guy that had one overachieving outlier year. He’s not “regressing” he’s just reverting back to what he truly is all along.

You have an interesting way of being a white knight and protecting the coaching staff at all costs. I’m not even blaming the coaching staff, yet your white knight sonars just fire to protect protect.. you can sugar coat it all you want. I’m just pointing the facts that Shawver is not the same wrestler he was his soph year.
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I’m not implying that, I’m saying it directly. Shawver is a career R12/16 guy that overachieved one year. He also earned every bit of that AA accolade.
 
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Kiddagger311

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SCNJ said:
I’m not implying that, I’m saying it directly. Shawver is a career R12/16 guy that overachieved one year. He also earned every bit of that AA accolade.
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Yep and that he had a hot run that one year, don’t sound so confused when you ask who implied it was a lucky year. That’s what it means to be an outlier.
 
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