Mike Leach managed that clock flawlessly with 1:09 to beat UCLA @ the Rose Bowl.
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Apparently he was unaware that you're supposed to use your times out early in the half because you can't get lined up, let 25 seconds run off the clock in between plays, and throw in the middle of the field short of the sticks.
If he doesn't have to call timeouts just to try a field goal or punt I'm already impressed.
I know it is fun and so easy to do right now but do you guys really think you are helping anything, and surely you don't think you are going to change anything------well, you might get a few recruits to decommit.
Yeah, it was a real fiasco at times, and lots of blame to go around, but I still think we have a better team than Vandy, and it took a lot of mishaps and a trick play from grade school that the high schools outlawed decades ago because it isn't football for them to win the game, and the TD pass where the toe came down first and THEN the heel hit the end line (who cares what the heel did?) was just impossible to stomach.. It is football, and it isn't for the faint of heart. Some of you are good posters that I hope aren't going to give up on our team, (although I wouldn't miss a lot of the bb fans and frontrunners we have attracted lately, since we have upgraded some things, including the talent) the young talent will be much better next year. No mistaking the increase in raw talent.
The whole staff is learning on the job and have a long way to go, and I don't doubt that a lot of changes will be made, in tactics and personnel, but I hate to throw out the baby with the wash and start all over again.
We were 3.5 point underdogs and lost by four, Boise was 30 point favorites at home and lost by seven. It is sad to see so many normally good posters so down on our team, not a good word or anything to praise about the whole game.
Yeah, it was a real fiasco at times, and lots of blame to go around, but I still think we have a better team than Vandy, and it took a lot of mishaps and a trick play from grade school that the high schools outlawed decades ago because it isn't football for them to win the game, and the TD pass where the toe came down first and THEN the heel hit the end line (who cares what the heel did?) was just impossible to stomach.. It is football, and it isn't for the faint of heart. Some of you are good posters that I hope aren't going to give up on our team, (although I wouldn't miss a lot of the bb fans and frontrunners we have attracted lately, since we have upgraded some things, including the talent) the young talent will be much better next year. No mistaking the increase in raw talent.
The whole staff is learning on the job and have a long way to go, and I don't doubt that a lot of changes will be made, in tactics and personnel, but I hate to throw out the baby with the wash and start all over again.
We were 3.5 point underdogs and lost by four, Boise was 30 point favorites at home and lost by seven. It is sad to see so many normally good posters so down on our team, not a good word or anything to praise about the whole game.
I like to think of myself as a great fan, a lot of people who are great fans get called out and trashed because they are frustrated much like I am. I get quite irrational during games and I'm a young guy. It's been my favorite thing for 17 years now, ever since my dad and uncle started taking me to games. Man there's just no way not to be discouraged as heck because this group of guys just can't get it done. The coaching staff has to shake up to improve. It's just unfortunate and it's awful we lost to Vandy. I mean freaking Vandy who we should've scored 45 on had our OC managed the downs and play calling better inside the 2. It sucks, it really does, that probably even sounds negative, but I do like coach stoops, I want him to get it done, But it just can't happen this way.
Just like after year two of Joker. It's not a matter of if but when and how much it will cost us.
Jauk to understand my feelings take all the belief you have in the staff/Mitch and realize I have that much feeling on the complete opposite side of the argument.
We want the same thing but have totally different ideas how to get there
Jauk to understand my feelings take all the belief you have in the staff/Mitch and realize I have that much feeling on the complete opposite side of the argument.
We want the same thing but have totally different ideas how to get there
I see no way any staff shake up can help honestly, cause the problem is top down. Stoops is poor in game, but he also can't help himself but to interfere with the OC, and he has lost his identity on D. That's one thing Leach has never had any problem with. He knows what he's about, he coaches to that end. Stoops is a DC turned HC. He puts his hands all over the offense in a way that's hindering the team, which is bad, but what is absolutely a death knell IMO, is this 3-4 D... It's not my favorite form of D, but ignore that and think back to a coaches identity. Leach is old school air raid. He's gonna ride or die with the air raid. Stoops is a 4-3 DC. He threw that out, went to the 3-4, moved a 4-3 DL coach into a 3-4 DC (Elliot) , moved a 4-3 DL coach into a 3-4 DL coach (Brumbaugh), and brought in a 3-4 guy in Buh to coach one position. Not position group, position, hoping he'd guide them on their mission to learn the 3-4 as players and coaches.
I said it in my thread about Leach, but he knows what he's about. Everything that made Stoops a fast riser through the ranks he's changed when he got here. Imagine if Leach got to Wazzou and decided he was gonna run Flexbone or Wishbone instead or AR. That's kinda what Stoops is doing.
I said it in my thread about Leach, but he knows what he's about. Everything that made Stoops a fast riser through the ranks he's changed when he got here. Imagine if Leach got to Wazzou and decided he was gonna run Flexbone or Wishbone instead or AR. That's kinda what Stoops is doing.
Leach is a great coach and should have been hired here.
Mitch with another hiring mistake. We have one of the worst ad's in the country.
Mitch with another hiring mistake. We have one of the worst ad's in the country.
In year three leach was 3-9 at Washington state. The schedule is no where comparable to what we play either. This year he has a loss to fcs Portland state also.
I understand he was hired at a tough school to win at, much like the same situation uk was in. But he didn't instantly turn them into a powerhouse.
I understand he was hired at a tough school to win at, much like the same situation uk was in. But he didn't instantly turn them into a powerhouse.
Which makes one wonder why they were given a substantial raise after just a couple years..
Nobody listens to you anymore, you stuck by Joker till the last second. You've been wrong about everything at every turn, and you're wrong about this nonsense. You really think a few internet comments are going to have a greater effect on recruiting, which hasn't been stellar, than the dumpster fire that is our coaching staff on the field? Don't make me laugh. You're the ultimate groupthink advocate, telling people to shut up while continuing to defend fecklessness.
I said this in the other thread about Leach. Stoops and Leach will most likely (if we go 1-1 in our 2 remaining games) have the exact same record as each other after their first 3 seasons at their respective schools. It's kind of contradicting to get on the Leach bandwagon considering a good majority of our fans would have wanted him fired after year 3.
He went to a bowl game in year two. It's hilarious to see the ones defending this staff and AD make things up.
I'm not defending our staff at all. But I will tell you if Stoops went 3-9, 6-6, 3-9 (Leach's record at WSU in first 3 seasons), people would be asking for his head and hoping he didn't get a 4th year.
He would get a 4th year with that record. Have you not seen the buyout for Stoops contract? He will get at least five years no matter how bad we get. So would Leach. Only difference is we would be well coached with an identity.
I agree he would get a 4th year and I have been saying all year that Stoops isn't going anywhere because of the crazy extension Mitch gave him. IMO, if Stoops had Leach's record here, regardless of how the team was coached, a majority of people would want him gone.
There's no way you are still running around defending the defenseless, right?
My Lord dude, joker would still be getting contracts if it were up to you and barnfart. Give me a damn break.
It's fans like this that ensure we will never see greatness in football.
Just insane.
The COACHES continue to suck and make terrible decisions.. What "good word" do you need?? Eeerrrrrbody gets a trophy bs... The players tried and fought all game.. The O is terrible, PT 3 TDs in 8 games ( he's terrible, absolutely terrible), how the hell do you take a sack on the last play of the game???? For the 3rd time this year
Leach is a proven winner. He had Tech in the national title picture and WASU believe it or not might even be a worse job than even UK. WASU was considered one of if not the worst job in all the power 5 conferences when he went there. Lots of talking heads on ESPN thought it was a bad choice for Leach to even take the job and now he is competing with and beating some ranked teams on the road. I would feel much better with a 3-9 Leach in season 3 than I would with most others. Leach is one of the few coaches that I actually thought might win here and the timing to snatch him up was just not right. Mitch wasn't willing to admit that Joker wasnt going to win here and missed out on the chance to get a proven winner.
But if he won 7-8 games in year 4 he'd be fine. I don't see how anyone can honestly say that Leach would not have got UK to a bowl game with the dog crap schedule we have played. This whole super tough schedule thing is a bit of a myth when you have Charlotte, EKU, ULL, crappy down UL, Vandy, Missouri and SC on the schedule.
Maybe, but then again, Leach doesn't have a Jokeresque reputation for making bonehead plays in nearly every single game. He might lose games, but his players play and they put up points.
I am not saying UK needs to make a change or not, thats up to you guys and UK administration. But if you don't think recruits and more importantly their parents don't read these boards you are kidding yourself. UGA's recruiting coordinator has publically come out and said they have had to put out fires started by message board rumors. This is a free UK board, anyone can read and post here so to think kids and their parents aren't is naive. UGA's free board has basically zero football or recruiting talk on it, however you can find out what people are having for lunch, so they are either signing up for the free trial or buying membership. But kids keep up with the message boards, it may not be anything but random people posting, but its a general feel of how the staff stands with the fanbase. Ours is down on the coaches worse than this one, and we beat our oldest rival yesterday, but apparently not by enough.
That's probably the only thing that will be accomplished by a thread like this one. Like it or not, Stoops isn't going anywhere until at least the end of 2016. More likely not before 2017. Similar things happened in 2004, 2005 & early to mid 2006 on these same UK message boards back during Rich Brooks tenure. I have no doubt that it hurt recruiting during those years & that it in turn caused a steady talent drop off from 2008 - 2011. Coincidence? I think not.