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Not because of performance issues. Don't want to litigate that. I'm thinking more long term.
Baseballs good. Both basketballs good.
But football needs a change after this season. Stoops is dead man walking. And we're going to need to hire a new coach.
Mitch is going to retire soon anyway. Do it now.
Get a new AD to get their man in the highest profile how they get to make.

Yeah Sumrall seems the easy get in December
But he is going to have options.
Can he turn down Auburn or LSU for a rebuilding job at Kentucky knowing a new boss is coming soon.
And can we hire a worthy AD next year who is going to step in where every coaching position is filled long termish.
They have to wait a couple years at least to see if new football coach they didn't choose has what it takes to rebuild program.
 
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Why do you say Stoops is a dead man walking. We will NOT have the buyout money after this season either. The ONLY reason Cal is gone is he foolishly broke his contract and gave us an out to not pay his buyout. Stoops has already said that he wants every penny due him under his contract. If this season is a disaster it will not be the end of Stoops unless he wants it to be.
I do agree with you that Barney needs to retire.
 

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Why do you say Stoops is a dead man walking. We will NOT have the buyout money after this season either. The ONLY reason Cal is gone is he foolishly broke his contract and gave us an out to not pay his buyout. Stoops has already said that he wants every penny due him under his contract. If this season is a disaster it will not be the end of Stoops unless he wants it to be.
I do agree with you that Barney needs to retire.
After this year, he will have 4 years remaining on his contract, at $9.1 per year. His buyout would be $6.8 million per year, or $27.3 million total.

My hope is that Mitch could get him to agree to be paid out over the 4 years remaining on his contract and not one lump sum. I think you could get a coach in the $6 million range, so you would be all in for $12.8 million annually...$3.7 more than you're paying now. You're honestly going to probably lose that much each year in ticket sales and concessions if Stoops is just lumping along. It would be a break even situation.
 

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After this year, he will have 4 years remaining on his contract, at $9.1 per year. His buyout would be $6.8 million per year, or $27.3 million total.

My hope is that Mitch could get him to agree to be paid out over the 4 years remaining on his contract and not one lump sum. I think you could get a coach in the $6 million range, so you would be all in for $12.8 million annually...$3.7 more than you're paying now. You're honestly going to probably lose that much each year in ticket sales and concessions if Stoops is just lumping along. It would be a break even situation.
Stoops has the ultimate say but Barnhart will be negotiating with Jimmy Sexton. If Mark wants to stay, Sexton isn't going to make it easy on UK.
 

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Stoops has the ultimate say but Barnhart will be negotiating with Jimmy Sexton. If Mark wants to stay, Sexton isn't going to make it easy on UK.
I get all of that. Sexton is the best in the business. My hope is that the good relationship that Stoops and Mitch have will help. I know he won’t take less money, but hopefully he would work with Mitch on how the money is paid out.
 
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After this year, he will have 4 years remaining on his contract, at $9.1 per year. His buyout would be $6.8 million per year, or $27.3 million total.

My hope is that Mitch could get him to agree to be paid out over the 4 years remaining on his contract and not one lump sum. I think you could get a coach in the $6 million range, so you would be all in for $12.8 million annually...$3.7 more than you're paying now. You're honestly going to probably lose that much each year in ticket sales and concessions if Stoops is just lumping along. It would be a break even situation.

The weakness of our 2024 football team was the QB and OL. On paper, those issues have been addressed, as have several others. And I am not convinced losing Vince Marrow is a net negative, although that must still play out. Maybe losing Marrow hurts. Maybe it helps. In any case, we will see soon enough.

If Stoops produces the improvements he says he is in the process of producing, then he will continue as our football coach and rightfully so. He would not be the only major conference coach to suffer through a retro-regression season and then recover from it.

But if the program continues to go in the wrong direction in 2025, I am convinced it will be Stoops' final season here. Contrary to what one often reads here, the leaders at UK are fair but very clear minded and anxious to have successful, winning athletic programs. In 2024, football was the problem child while nearly every other sport did well. But football is the cash cow, so it's going to get fixed one way or the other. Of this, I have no doubt.
 

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Whatever the reason behind VM leaving it will have little to no bearing on what happens with Coach Stoops…..unless off field discipline problems were in some way Vince fault in which his leaving is a positive….and THAT will NEVER be known.

This coach and staff will be judged on results in the field. I believe the QB situation is better, I only HOPE the O line is better. IF THOSE TWO ARE IMPROVED I could see up to a 6 win season….which would (better or worse) continue Stoops term one more year.

In this day and time you cannot be a doormat in the SEC multiple years. There is just too much money. ESPECIALLY whe the head coach has a very good salary.
 

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After this year, he will have 4 years remaining on his contract, at $9.1 per year. His buyout would be $6.8 million per year, or $27.3 million total.

My hope is that Mitch could get him to agree to be paid out over the 4 years remaining on his contract and not one lump sum. I think you could get a coach in the $6 million range, so you would be all in for $12.8 million annually...$3.7 more than you're paying now. You're honestly going to probably lose that much each year in ticket sales and concessions if Stoops is just lumping along. It would be a break even situation.
I think your hope should be more like wishing Stoops succeeds hugely. Is that not what's best for UK FB?
 

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A big chunk of the football problems are tied to nil. Mitch kept hoping something would happen and nil would he disallowed. Meanwhile UL went out and gobbled up ever big ky high wealth person that wasn't joe and Kelly craft.

Then we lost the nil discount cal gave us. Ues he sucked at winning, but was great at getting guys drafted high. So he got us a steep discount.

Plus Mitch was at war with cal, so he is directing loads of resources that way, when it isn't going to non revenue.

I love both football and basketball. The skinny is football pays the bills even here and basketball as a brand draws nil beyond crafts.

Until Mitch gets calibrated, football will struggle. Unfortunately while top button mitch gets calibrated, programs like Mizzou, South Carolina, and yes Louisville all passed us solely because of spending money.
 
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100% agree! Although, Stoops will only leave if he want to. Unfortunately, due to Mitch Bs lack of negotiation skills we can’t afford to buyout Stoops. I think he’s been a good AD but his contracts have been awful and that’s enough to show him the door.

Recent memory:
-Gave Elzy a big contract after about 5 games. Team fell apart after!
-Gave Cal a huge guaranteed contract while he was on downward trajectory.
-Gave Stoops bad contract after bad contract. For a long time 7 wins = another year (which was easy to do with old scheduling). New contract took that out but made him a top 10 paid coach with all guaranteed. Way overpaid!
-I’m a Pope fan, but similar to Stoops his contract has the auto extension provision. He only needs to make the sweet 16 for that provision. Let’s say over the next 5 years he never makes it past the Sweet 16. UK would have to buy him out of 5 years of his contract.
 

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Lsu will not be available after this yr. They are going to be very good and make the playoffs.
 

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After this year, he will have 4 years remaining on his contract, at $9.1 per year. His buyout would be $6.8 million per year, or $27.3 million total.

My hope is that Mitch could get him to agree to be paid out over the 4 years remaining on his contract and not one lump sum. I think you could get a coach in the $6 million range, so you would be all in for $12.8 million annually...$3.7 more than you're paying now. You're honestly going to probably lose that much each year in ticket sales and concessions if Stoops is just lumping along. It would be a break even situation.
$6 million is going to be on the bottom rung of the SEC coaches, so I don't see that as a number to attract a coach that's going to be a significant step up without taking on a great risk. It would probably be a coordinator, which you really don't know what you are going to get. It would be double what Sumrall makes, but if he's the hot coach still, he's going to have the negotiating leverage. Plus, there may be a buyout on any coach they go after.

Stoops has all the leverage in this. I don't believe he will just say "oh yeah, you contractually owe me this, however I'll take millions less because we have a good relationship.

As much as I want to see a new coach, I see Stoops at least another year after this one, if not two, unless another programs hires him away, which won't happen.
 

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$6 million is going to be on the bottom rung of the SEC coaches, so I don't see that as a number to attract a coach that's going to be a significant step up without taking on a great risk. It would probably be a coordinator, which you really don't know what you are going to get. It would be double what Sumrall makes, but if he's the hot coach still, he's going to have the negotiating leverage. Plus, there may be a buyout on any coach they go after.

Stoops has all the leverage in this. I don't believe he will just say "oh yeah, you contractually owe me this, however I'll take millions less because we have a good relationship.

As much as I want to see a new coach, I see Stoops at least another year after this one, if not two, unless another programs hires him away, which won't happen.
I'd love to see the excitement and energy behind this current team and Mark Stoops that the dream of change and the idea of the shiny new bright thing generates.
 
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As I get in my late sixties, my willingness to watch our football be run in the ground for a couple of more years followed by a 5 to 10 year rebuild, is limited. That's the probable future if Mitch remains at the helm, and Stoops is here 2 more years.My naive hope as a football fan since age 6, that once in my lifetime UK would play for an SEC title, will probably go unfilled. We need NEW leadership after this season. Man , I seen this movie before
 

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It's important to note that a different "Mitch" - Bossier Parish Schools superintendent Mitch Downey
 

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One of the most powerful influential people in college sports hopefully will not retire, but will benefit UK for years to come.
Most influential? Ok.
last at everything is more like it. I’m sure they all love Mitch, he sits back, keeps his mouth shut and gets shat on.
I said Duke would get Sarr on campus . He’s been here since day one of summer practice.
I said Auburn would get Jovic on campus, a teammate of Jelovic. He arrives Friday and is cleared. Here we sit with last again Mitch. Last , last always last.
 

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Why do you say Stoops is a dead man walking. We will NOT have the buyout money after this season either. The ONLY reason Cal is gone is he foolishly broke his contract and gave us an out to not pay his buyout. Stoops has already said that he wants every penny due him under his contract. If this season is a disaster it will not be the end of Stoops unless he wants it to be.
I do agree with you that Barney needs to retire.
If we can’t buy out stoops that’s a performance issue with Barney and he needs to go. UK fans are sick of an ad who can’t navigate and keep top coaches without giving them the farm only to find out both stoops and cal were like emperors with no clothes. They can’t coach at least not at the level Barney has paid them.
 

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If you like Jon Sumrall and you think there is a chance Stoops is gone after this or next year, you probably don’t want to lose Mitch. Sumrall knows Mitch. Mitch knows Jon. Assuming Mitch feels about Jon as most here do, you don’t want to bring in some new AD who might have his or her guy in mind.
 

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A big chunk of the football problems are tied to nil. Mitch kept hoping something would happen and nil would he disallowed. Meanwhile UL went out and gobbled up ever big ky high wealth person that wasn't joe and Kelly craft.

Then we lost the nil discount cal gave us. Ues he sucked at winning, but was great at getting guys drafted high. So he got us a steep discount.

Plus Mitch was at war with cal, so he is directing loads of resources that way, when it isn't going to non revenue.

I love both football and basketball. The skinny is football pays the bills even here and basketball as a brand draws nil beyond crafts.

Until Mitch gets calibrated, football will struggle. Unfortunately while top button mitch gets calibrated, programs like Mizzou, South Carolina, and yes Louisville all passed us solely because of spending money.
UL has always had bigger donors. They weren’t gobbled up, they were already there. Read the names on the buildings, stadiums, and complexes.
 

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As I get in my late sixties, my willingness to watch our football be run in the ground for a couple of more years followed by a 5 to 10 year rebuild, is limited. That's the probable future if Mitch remains at the helm, and Stoops is here 2 more years.My naive hope as a football fan since age 6, that once in my lifetime UK would play for an SEC title, will probably go unfilled. We need NEW leadership after this season. Man , I seen this movie before
Amen brother. I graduated from UK in 1978 when Fran Curci was coach. He had a couple of very good seasons, but broke the NCAA rules and we got Jerry Claiborne in 1982.
 

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Pretty sad when one of the major talking points in sports media on youtube this week has been that UK has given up on Football.
 

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Why do you say Stoops is a dead man walking. We will NOT have the buyout money after this season either. The ONLY reason Cal is gone is he foolishly broke his contract and gave us an out to not pay his buyout. Stoops has already said that he wants every penny due him under his contract. If this season is a disaster it will not be the end of Stoops unless he wants it to be.
I do agree with you that Barney needs to retire.

Why do you say Stoops is a dead man walking. We will NOT have the buyout money after this season either. The ONLY reason Cal is gone is he foolishly broke his contract and gave us an out to not pay his buyout. Stoops has already said that he wants every penny due him under his contract. If this season is a disaster it will not be the end of Stoops unless he wants it to be.
I do agree with you that Barney needs to retire.
I think the narrative that Stoops wants every penny due him has been invented by fans who wanted him to leave after last year. I have never seen or heard Stoops say that. Just the fans perspective.
maybe he does, but anyone with half a brain would never say that publicly. Stoops isn’t dumb.
I do believe you are correct on the buyout money. We can’t afford to fire him for a minimum of 3 more years.
 

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The weakness of our 2024 football team was the QB and OL. On paper, those issues have been addressed, as have several others. And I am not convinced losing Vince Marrow is a net negative, although that must still play out. Maybe losing Marrow hurts. Maybe it helps. In any case, we will see soon enough.

If Stoops produces the improvements he says he is in the process of producing, then he will continue as our football coach and rightfully so. He would not be the only major conference coach to suffer through a retro-regression season and then recover from it.

But if the program continues to go in the wrong direction in 2025, I am convinced it will be Stoops' final season here. Contrary to what one often reads here, the leaders at UK are fair but very clear minded and anxious to have successful, winning athletic programs. In 2024, football was the problem child while nearly every other sport did well. But football is the cash cow, so it's going to get fixed one way or the other. Of this, I have no doubt.
I agree with everything you just said in Regards to Stoops. One season shouldn’t be his downfall. I’m not convinced losing Marrow is a bad thing either.
I don’t believe UK would pay a buyout that high. I think Stoops is here a minimum of 3 more years if he wants to be barring the wheels completely falling off.
 

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A big chunk of the football problems are tied to nil. Mitch kept hoping something would happen and nil would he disallowed. Meanwhile UL went out and gobbled up ever big ky high wealth person that wasn't joe and Kelly craft.

Then we lost the nil discount cal gave us. Ues he sucked at winning, but was great at getting guys drafted high. So he got us a steep discount.

Plus Mitch was at war with cal, so he is directing loads of resources that way, when it isn't going to non revenue.

I love both football and basketball. The skinny is football pays the bills even here and basketball as a brand draws nil beyond crafts.

Until Mitch gets calibrated, football will struggle. Unfortunately while top button mitch gets calibrated, programs like Mizzou, South Carolina, and yes Louisville all passed us solely because of spending money.
While we are below a lot of teams in spending money, We had a roster last year completely capable of winning more than 4 games.
We started by beating Ole Miss, Then our QB got hurt because of the Oline. Our QB decided in season he really didn’t want to play football anymore. He didn’t want to get killed behind the terrible Oline. Over the season the entire team felt the same and simply quit trying.
We didn’t lose because of talent and money I believe. That team quit through a QB who didn’t want to be here and it saturated the whole team. When have you ever in Football seen a QB quit football completely after the season. ??? That is the first I can ever remember. Ever.
Meanwhile, Stoops was always out fundraising for top button Mitch and turned a lot of day to day over to his Associate Head coach. Vince.
That didn’t help the culture, that hurt it and is why he is gone. He couldn’t manage the team while Stoops was out fundraising.
It’s a new season and with Rev Share Stoops should be able to coach again.
Last year was a disaster but it wasn’t because we didn’t have the Jimmys and Joes due to money. The disastrous Oline was payed well.
 

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While we are below a lot of teams in spending money, We had a roster last year completely capable of winning more than 4 games.
We started by beating Ole Miss, Then our QB got hurt because of the Oline. Our QB decided in season he really didn’t want to play football anymore. He didn’t want to get killed behind the terrible Oline. Over the season the entire team felt the same and simply quit trying.
We didn’t lose because of talent and money I believe. That team quit through a QB who didn’t want to be here and it saturated the whole team. When have you ever in Football seen a QB quit football completely after the season. ??? That is the first I can ever remember. Ever.
Meanwhile, Stoops was always out fundraising for top button Mitch and turned a lot of day to day over to his Associate Head coach. Vince.
That didn’t help the culture, that hurt it and is why he is gone. He couldn’t manage the team while Stoops was out fundraising.
It’s a new season and with Rev Share Stoops should be able to coach again.
Last year was a disaster but it wasn’t because we didn’t have the Jimmys and Joes due to money. The disastrous Oline was payed well.

We had s few good pieces but mostly we took chances on guts because we can't financially compete.

Because of middling nil, we had to take a chance on an unproven qb. We had a mediocre ol with zero depth. Below average talent at rb. A good diva wr and a great special teams guy that was an Uber diva. A dt that should've been nose but walked half the time.

Compared to other teams in the league, we're middle of the road. They get to shop for talent. We have to roll the dice hoping to find a bargain. A key miss or two, and the season is sunk. That was last season to a tee.
 

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We had s few good pieces but mostly we took chances on guts because we can't financially compete.

Because of middling nil, we had to take a chance on an unproven qb. We had a mediocre ol with zero depth. Below average talent at rb. A good diva wr and a great special teams guy that was an Uber diva. A dt that should've been nose but walked half the time.

Compared to other teams in the league, we're middle of the road. They get to shop for talent. We have to roll the dice hoping to find a bargain. A key miss or two, and the season is sunk. That was last season to a tee.
Sorry buddy you are just looking to prove your point by distorting facts. Brock Vandagriff was one of the most coveted QB transfer in all of college football. Everyone wanted him. The 5* back up at 2 time National Champion Georgia. He was our first choice and we landed him for a reported 2 million.
You need to describe him as an unproven scrub to make your point. He didn’t work out but he was very highly paid and everyone wanted him.
I agree we don’t have as much money as others but we can compete with the money we have. That team took their money and Quit. It’s happening at a lot of places. Georgia is now having guys take all that money and Quit, getting arrested and 10,000 speeding and traffic violations. It’s everywhere.
 
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Sorry buddy you are just looking to prove your point by distorting facts. Brock Vandagriff was one of the most coveted QB transfer in all of college football. Everyone wanted him. The 5* back up at 2 time National Champion Georgia. He was our first choice and we landed him for a reported 2 million.
You need to describe him as an unproven scrub to make your point. He didn’t work out but he was very highly paid and everyone wanted him.
I agree we don’t have as much money as others but we can compete with the money we have. That team took their money and Quit. It’s happening at a lot of places. Georgia is now having guys take all that money and Quit, getting arrested and 10,000 speeding and traffic violations. It’s everywhere.

I didn't say he was a scrub. He was unproven. He literally retired from football with eligibility left. It basically doesn't get worse than that.

In football, we are just middle of the road money wise. Its that simple. Do we need to spend our money wiser? Also yes.
 

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I didn't say he was a scrub. He was unproven. He literally retired from football with eligibility left. It basically doesn't get worse than that.

In football, we are just middle of the road money wise. Its that simple. Do we need to spend our money wiser? Also yes.

Let me clarify something. I fully agree we paid brock and were undoubtedly not his only suitor. The problem was he took a giant chunk of our nil. So we absolutely needed him to be worth the money or we were toast.

Other teams with better nil can absorb that because they spend enough to make sure they have many good players, including good depth.
 

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I didn't say he was a scrub. He was unproven. He literally retired from football with eligibility left. It basically doesn't get worse than that.

In football, we are just middle of the road money wise. Its that simple. Do we need to spend our money wiser? Also yes.
I’m just at a loss of words on Brock. I’ve never seen a 5*QB finally get his chance, then realize he doesn’t want to play football anymore half way through the season. I don’t know how the staff could have predicted something that’s probably never happened before.
The QB didn’t want to play, Brown and Key were constantly crying, Big Deone hurt his back, Wilcox, couldn’t tie his shoes.
I firmly believe it wasn’t as much a talent issue as it was discipline and desire.
That team last year said F this. That’s the big danger of the portal. You can Quit if you want to. I’m not gonna be here next year anyway. I’m putting my name back in the portal.
Even Alabama players seemed to Quit once the playoffs were not possible.
Hopefully the congress bill will be able to stop unlimited transfers. That is more damaging to programs than paying players.
 

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I’m just at a loss of words on Brock. I’ve never seen a 5*QB finally get his chance, then realize he doesn’t want to play football anymore half way through the season. I don’t know how the staff could have predicted something that’s probably never happened before.
The QB didn’t want to play, Brown and Key were constantly crying, Big Deone hurt his back, Wilcox, couldn’t tie his shoes.
I firmly believe it wasn’t as much a talent issue as it was discipline and desire.
That team last year said F this. That’s the big danger of the portal. You can Quit if you want to. I’m not gonna be here next year anyway. I’m putting my name back in the portal.
Even Alabama players seemed to Quit once the playoffs were not possible.
Hopefully the congress bill will be able to stop unlimited transfers. That is more damaging to programs than paying players.

I agree. That's the issue with being middle of the pack money wise. If you devote money to the player, especially big money, they absolutely need to deliver for us.

Agree on Congress or whatever for of enforceable legal moves can be made to level the playing field. Till that happens, the big ten is just going to be favorites to win it all
 
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I agree with everything you just said in Regards to Stoops. One season shouldn’t be his downfall. I’m not convinced losing Marrow is a bad thing either.
I don’t believe UK would pay a buyout that high. I think Stoops is here a minimum of 3 more years if he wants to be barring the wheels completely falling off.

Agreed. Have to hope someone is dumb enough to take him off our hands.
 

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While we are below a lot of teams in spending money, We had a roster last year completely capable of winning more than 4 games.
We started by beating Ole Miss, Then our QB got hurt because of the Oline. Our QB decided in season he really didn’t want to play football anymore. He didn’t want to get killed behind the terrible Oline. Over the season the entire team felt the same and simply quit trying.
We didn’t lose because of talent and money I believe. That team quit through a QB who didn’t want to be here and it saturated the whole team. When have you ever in Football seen a QB quit football completely after the season. ??? That is the first I can ever remember. Ever.
Meanwhile, Stoops was always out fundraising for top button Mitch and turned a lot of day to day over to his Associate Head coach. Vince.
That didn’t help the culture, that hurt it and is why he is gone. He couldn’t manage the team while Stoops was out fundraising.
It’s a new season and with Rev Share Stoops should be able to coach again.
Last year was a disaster but it wasn’t because we didn’t have the Jimmys and Joes due to money. The disastrous Oline was payed well.
Good post but,, Drew Barker recently quit playing.
 

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I’m just at a loss of words on Brock. I’ve never seen a 5*QB finally get his chance, then realize he doesn’t want to play football anymore half way through the season. I don’t know how the staff could have predicted something that’s probably never happened before.
The QB didn’t want to play, Brown and Key were constantly crying, Big Deone hurt his back, Wilcox, couldn’t tie his shoes.
I firmly believe it wasn’t as much a talent issue as it was discipline and desire.
That team last year said F this. That’s the big danger of the portal. You can Quit if you want to. I’m not gonna be here next year anyway. I’m putting my name back in the portal.
Even Alabama players seemed to Quit once the playoffs were not possible.
Hopefully the congress bill will be able to stop unlimited transfers. That is more damaging to programs than paying players.
I may be wrong but after a few years of this mess I would rather gamble on a guy who has carved up the MAC orCUSA than a five star from Georgia who was never able to claim the starting position. Rating football players is fraught with numerous errors. Rating quarterbacks is even harder. Even the NFL has problems evaluating quarterback s when they have to step up to the next level.
 

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I may be wrong but after a few years of this mess I would rather gamble on a guy who has carved up the MAC orCUSA than a five star from Georgia who was never able to claim the starting position. Rating football players is fraught with numerous errors. Rating quarterbacks is even harder. Even the NFL has problems evaluating quarterback s when they have to step up to the next level.
That is what CMS said was going to be the plan moving forward. Our SEC backups were not working out most of the time. That has caused the fans to gripe that we have brought in a MAC roster. Giving one free transfer would slow down movement but allow guys playing well at a lower level the chance to move up. That likely makes backups stay put.