Mizzou Paying the Price for Giving in to Race Baiters

[BlueRattie_rivals]

Some numbers from the University of Missouri, post race protests:

• Freshman enrollment this year was down by around 1,000, a pretty significant drop for only one year.
• Studies show that the gross majority of that exit was out of state students, who no doubt soured on Mizzou in the wake of the student protests.
• Even more damaging to the university, and especially the football team, is the sharp decline in athletic donations.
• In 2014, $685,000 was donated to the athletic department. After the race protests, the donations were down to $191,000. That's a loss of nearly $494,000--not chump change.
• Ironically, Mizzou brass caved to few malcontents on the football team because they were afraid of losing revenue from football. Now, the long-term implications of that choice seem to have put the university in far worse financial peril. No doubt Mizzou football will feel the crunch.
• On the academic side, new donations fell by $6,000,000 (that's million, folks) in one year.
• Lesson? Don't sell out your values; you'll pay in the end.

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

The riots in Ferguson making national news probably didn't help with student enrollment either. If you are an out of state student looking to go somewhere, it would definitely make you think twice about Mizzou.

 

[Levibooty]

Maybe out of state students don't want to be shot in the back.

 

[EnPassant]

Not sure anyone in history has ever protested racism without being called something similar to "race baiter."

They killed many during the segregation era that were called similar names. You know, those "northern agitators" who had the gall to come to the South and try and fight against Jim Crow laws.

 

[Levibooty]

"Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation: conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war. . .testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated. . . can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war.

We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate. . .we cannot consecrate. . . we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember, what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced.

It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us. . .that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion. . . that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain. . . that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom. . . and that government of the people. . .by the people. . .for the people. . . shall not perish from the earth. "

 

[JHB4UK]

most of what surrounds Mizzou would probably better be discussed & debated in the political thread

but just from a pure football point of view, IMO a division permanent opponent of UK is severely weakened by the events surrounding their entire university as well as the stepping down of their outstanding head coach. I think they will be a less formidable opponent for UK in 2016 than the one we defeated in 2015, and will not get any better in the seasons to come.

 

[CatsFanGG24]

Maybe out of state students don't want to be shot in the back.

Sad you'd continue that narrative. Part of the problem...

 

[ukalum1988]

"Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation: conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war. . .testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated. . . can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war.

We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate. . .we cannot consecrate. . . we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember, what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced.

It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us. . .that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion. . . that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain. . . that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom. . . and that government of the people. . .by the people. . .for the people. . . shall not perish from the earth. "

The Gettysburg Address is one of most profound speeches of human history, but the political malcontents and race hustlers who created the sh!tstorm at Mizzou last fall aren't interested in what dead white guys have to say.

Mizzou deserves to reap the consequences of its actions (reduced enrollment and donations) for caving in the way they did.

 

[CatFromDaHood]

Not sure anyone in history has ever protested racism without being called something similar to "race baiter."

They killed many during the segregation era that were called similar names. You know, those "northern agitators" who had the gall to come to the South and try and fight against Jim Crow laws.

Have noticed the term "race-baiter" often means "you caught somebody doing/saying something racist and I'll try to deflect blame so that YOU'RE the bad person for calling them out on it."

 

[vhcat70]

Sad you'd continue that narrative. Part of the problem...

+1

 

[Levibooty]

The Gettysburg Address is one of most profound speeches of human history, but the political malcontents and race hustlers who created the sh!tstorm at Mizzou last fall aren't interested in what dead white guys have to say.

Mizzou deserves to reap the consequences of its actions (reduced enrollment and donations) for caving in the way they did.

People don't deserve to be shot in the back either by supposed peace officers. I believe that to be the pre-eminent take away from that entire situation. It is not unlike another athlete to take a stand--Mohammed Ali giving up the best years of his boxing career to peacefully stand up for his convictions. Most white Americans, including myself thought at the time that was a bad thing---today not so much.

I agree with you the Gettysburg address one of if not the best speech ever given in world history. The interesting thing is, "four score and seven years ago' dates back to the declaration of independance---not the writing of our Constitution made duplicitous by a couple of southern colonies.

 

[shutzhund]

Not sure anyone in history has ever protested racism without being called something similar to "race baiter."

They killed many during the segregation era that were called similar names. You know, those "northern agitators" who had the gall to come to the South and try and fight against Jim Crow laws.

How long ago was that? How relevant is that today? Not much unless someone wants to use it as an excuse.

 

[TBCat]

Maybe out of state students don't want to be shot in the back.

Why would they get shot in the back? The issue in Ferguson had nothing to do with being shot in the back.

 

[coolcat9lives]

Is it possible that some of those 1,000 enrollees saw what happen and didn't feel comfortable going there because they thought the environment could be hostile? What about the folks giving donations to the athletic program and the school in general? Could some of those people be withholding donations because they agreed with the protests and didn't want to support an institution that condones the acts? Is it possible those people reacted for more than just one reason?! Do all people with money think one way? What about all students enrolling in college? This is a narrow assessment at best.

 

[TuckyFB]

Take this topic to the Paddock.

Get it off the FB forum.

Don't want to see peoples political nonsense.

 

[NCukcat62]

If we are discussing football then I am glad. Hope this in turn keeps them in the sec cellar for years to come

 

[NamelessOne]

What does the War of Northern Aggression have to do with anything?

 

[docinjax]

Maybe out of state students don't want to be shot in the back.

Nobody shot in the back is innocent.

Is it possible that some of those 1,000 enrollees saw what happen and didn't feel comfortable going there because they thought the environment could be hostile? What about the folks giving donations to the athletic program and the school in general? Could some of those people be withholding donations because they agreed with the protests and didn't want to support an institution that condones the acts? Is it possible those people reacted for more than just one reason?! Do all people with money think one way? What about all students enrolling in college? This is a narrow assessment at best.

I doubt it. I would imagine most were embarrassed by the actions of the university and their rush to cave to those crying "racism". I wouldn't give any money to them if I were a Mizzou donor.

 

[coolcat9lives]

Nobody shot in the back is innocent.


I doubt it. I would imagine most were embarrassed by the actions of the university and their rush to cave to those crying "racism". I wouldn't give any money to them if I were a Mizzou donor.

OK. Thanks for that expertise. Seems like you have a good hold on the definition of racism. Appreciate your differentiating this instance for me. You are a great American.

 

[pikespeak1]

Maybe out of state students don't want to be shot in the back.

Who got shot in the back?

 

[JasonS.]

• Even more damaging to the university, and especially the football team, is the sharp decline in athletic donations.
• In 2014, $685,000 was donated to the athletic department. After the race protests, the donations were down to $191,000. That's a loss of nearly $494,000--not chump change.

Hate to disrupt the grandstanding, but if you'll read the article cited you'll note that isn't an annual number. This is a comparison of fundraising December 2014 to December 2015. Mizzou has an athletics budget of around $100 million -- they raise a little more than a few hundred thousand dollars a year.

Oh, I don't know ... what happened for Missouri football in 2014 (and 2013) that didn't happen in 2015 that may have impacted year-over-year December fundraising just a little bit?

 

[vhcat70]

Maybe out of state students don't want to be shot in the back.

"Wilson fired at Brown several times, all shots striking him in the front, with the possible exception of the two bullets fired into Brown's right arm.[7]In the entire altercation, Wilson fired a total of twelve bullets;[8] the last was probably the fatal shot.[9][10][11] Brown was unarmed and moving toward Wilson when the final shots were fired. Witness reports differed as to what Brown was doing with his hands when he was shot, but none of the witnesses who said that Brown had his hands up in surrender were later found to be credible.[12]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown

This guy is the same character that doesn't believe men deserve due process when a woman claims rape on a college campus.

 

[jauk11]

Who got shot in the back?

Hazy but from memory a young African American by a police officer that he wasn't a threat to him, not a student unless it was in high school.

Interesting numbers by the OP if true, but I don't know who has the right view on this.

Some old fuddy wuddies may not have even liked the trend to make some people heroes because of their sexual preferences, personally I don't think they should be made a hero any more than I should be for only liking the opposite sex (in a sexual context), I think it may send the wrong message to young mixed up kids-------and we have a lot of those, a lot of them think there isn't a problem getting hooked on drugs (or alcohol), and that they can quit any time they want to. As I mentioned once before, I lost an awesome friend (guy) that committed suicide (the final stage of a true alcoholic) and also my second wife to lung cancer that got hooked on nicotine when smoking was fashionable in high school-------a long time ago. Check out some people that have smoked all their life and see how "fasnhonable" most of them look.

And anyone that can try meth (just once is enough often times) after looking at pictures of young people that are arrested for it that look like they are sixty (or much older) need a psychiatrist.

Lincoln's address has always been awesome to me, and so concise.

 

[Tskware]

Lincoln's address has always been awesome to me, and so concise.

Me too, just for the life of me cannot fathom what it has to do with Missouri football and related donations to the athletic department

 

[pikespeak1]

Have noticed the term "race-baiter" often means "you caught somebody doing/saying something racist and I'll try to deflect blame so that YOU'RE the bad person for calling them out on it."

Show me one example of this from an unbiased source?

 

[vhcat70]

Me too, just for the life of me cannot fathom what it has to do with Missouri football and related donations to the athletic department

Your problem is that you're not blinded with liberal partisanship. If you were, you'd know.

 

[CatFromDaHood]

Show me one example of this from an unbiased source?

"unbiased" meaning, in this case, agreeing with you? I'm getting the distinct feeling that any actual example will be considered biased.

 

[Deeeefense]

Sorry folks but I'm going to have to lock this thread as it's gotten into political and social issues. If someone wants to start another thread and discuss Missouri's football issues have at it.