What do you all think about the train wreck going on at Mizzou? If I'm a college president somewhere else I'm furious at Wolfe for stepping down. He basically proved that if you're loud enough you can significantly impact university policy. The list of grievances and demands from the group that started all of this were pretty ridiculous.
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It's in line with the way everything else goes in our society today. Yell and cry the loudest like a child and you get what you want no matter how ignorant you and your demands might be.
The age of PC has been a disaster to our society...a total disaster.
You've also opened up a can of worms and set a dangerous precedent that any special interest group or set of athletes can cost you your job on their demand unless you grovel to them.
It's amazing. For a country that apparently is super racist and where white men are oppressing you it hasn't stopped the masses amounts of people to come to this country.
The easy simple solution for all of your problems are to simply blame white people. They're the real culprit and if you disagree then you're racist.
The age of PC has been a disaster to our society...a total disaster.
You've also opened up a can of worms and set a dangerous precedent that any special interest group or set of athletes can cost you your job on their demand unless you grovel to them.
It's amazing. For a country that apparently is super racist and where white men are oppressing you it hasn't stopped the masses amounts of people to come to this country.
The easy simple solution for all of your problems are to simply blame white people. They're the real culprit and if you disagree then you're racist.
He "didn't respond fast enough" to a few alleged incidents of racism on campus. For example, somebody called a student group the n-word. Somebody else took a piece of poop and drew a Swastika. I kid you not.
Lol that's hilarious.
I also head reports that he was *gasp*...white? Is that correct?
I also head reports that he was *gasp*...white? Is that correct?
I was shocked that he just stepped down. What a puss.
I know. Just tons of pathetic cowards allowing irrational and stupid children to dictate how things should be ran.
These students had no logic or rational thought at all. They're taught from a very young age (and even more so in college) that they're being oppressed & victims of society and that this evil white figurehead is the cause.
Somehow Wolfe is supposed to launch a full investigation into an alleged poop swastika and random person yelling a racist word outside a moving truck. They think there was some way to prevent this and that he should resign because of these incidents.
Meanwhile, there's not a single peep about the blacks only allowed group on their campus nor any fake outrage over St.Louis turning into a crime filled toilet.
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Not sure this would have happened as quick had not the football team boycotted, including the coach. (maybe it would) The fines for forfeiting their game was a bunch. Just added validity to the stance they were taking, I guess. They want more black students there and I am sure the Ferguson effect was in place as well. Dangerous precedent, IMO.
The next guy/gal comes in, does not do things fast enough, more boycotts...boom. Gone. There is no doubt the next President will have to be a minority. Regardless of qualifications.
The next guy/gal comes in, does not do things fast enough, more boycotts...boom. Gone. There is no doubt the next President will have to be a minority. Regardless of qualifications.
One report he was supposed to investigate was that a LONE WHITE GUY approached a group of (11-12) Black People and started yelling the N-Word at them. They can't seem to locate the LONE WHITE GUY, for some reason?
These things happen all the time-- outnumbered Whites provoking minority crowds-- especially when everybody forgets to record it with their cell phones.
Anyway, I'm sure the college prez got a very nice payout to go with his resignation.
These things happen all the time-- outnumbered Whites provoking minority crowds-- especially when everybody forgets to record it with their cell phones.
Anyway, I'm sure the college prez got a very nice payout to go with his resignation.
Not sure this would have happened as quick had not the football team boycotted, including the coach. (maybe it would) The fines for forfeiting their game was a bunch. Just added validity to the stance they were taking, I guess. They want more black students there and I am sure the Ferguson effect was in place as well. Dangerous precedent, IMO.
The next guy/gal comes in, does not do things fast enough, more boycotts...boom. Gone. There is no doubt the next President will have to be a minority. Regardless of qualifications.
The next guy/gal comes in, does not do things fast enough, more boycotts...boom. Gone. There is no doubt the next President will have to be a minority. Regardless of qualifications.
The demand for a 10% increase in black staff and faculty members by 2017-2018 was interesting. That could possibly mean firing staff and faculty who were not black in order to hire black faculty and staff members. When we start deciding ahead of time what percentage of faculty or students will be of a particular ethnicity we are in trouble. At that point we are just looking to meet numbers instead of finding the most qualified.
Also they demanded that the president make a speech and do all of these things and then also demanded he resign. Why in the world would the president do anything if he was being forced to resign whether he did them or not? Seems silly.
Also they demanded that the president make a speech and do all of these things and then also demanded he resign. Why in the world would the president do anything if he was being forced to resign whether he did them or not? Seems silly.
I went to EKU in the 80's and I'll be damned if I can remember ONE incident of that lone white guy rolling up on a crowd of black students and start hurling the n bomb. But in today's society we have ZERO people of courage to challenge a story as thin as this one. I told my son that in 2015, there is no way in hell a white guy is going to shout the n bomb at a group of students rehearsing for a play and somebody not have an audio or video recording. Not going to happen! Also, I don't know of any white folks STUPID enough to just walk up to a young black man and start making racial slurs.
This social justice crowd is totally out of control and there are ZERO people of courage to stand up and challenge this crap. This university president is a ball less wonder. I would have made the university fire me and then I would have sued the living dog crap out of them for wrongful termination. This ain't the Jim Crowe era and for the love of God, can we all just admit that the Mississippi Burning segment of our society has mostly been eradicated (and that's a good thing)!!
The problem is that the administration, professors and media are 95% liberals. They love this stuff.
How many African American Studies classes can one university offer?
What he did was fail to provide a safe environment for students. No one is keeping their job if they don't do that. He ignored their concerns then tried to blame them for their problems. More or less he showed no leadership. He didn't have to do much, he just had to do something and he walked away without doing anything. For the head coach and the school's athletic director to join force with the students against their boss something seriously had to be very wrong.
Columbia, Missouri is actually a predominantly white town. It's got the state university right smack dab in the middle of White Middle America USA where they grow corn and soy beans. Half root for the Cardinals, and the other half just started rooting for the Royals. The racism has been going on for YEARS.
The president probably handled this about as poorly as he possible could have. Basically ignored the protesters until football players threatened to walk. The students didn't want the president to resign just because he's white. They wanted him to resign because he's white, and he didn't seem to want to do anything about the racism that's been going on forever there.
The president probably handled this about as poorly as he possible could have. Basically ignored the protesters until football players threatened to walk. The students didn't want the president to resign just because he's white. They wanted him to resign because he's white, and he didn't seem to want to do anything about the racism that's been going on forever there.
I saw an episode of 48 Hours once in which a black teenager went to an apartment and killed a white man because he heard that the man had said the "n" word. It ended up that he killed the wrong man. Cincinnati I believe.
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It means you speak out against people slinging racial slurs and such at the very least. Might even make an effort to find those rubbing human **** on the walls. You know, the opposite of doing nothing.
lol... Are you going to get the FBI to come in and do DNA analysis on the poo? Three incidents dude. Two of which may not have happened.
Afraid not. You'll have to research it which doesn't take that long. Just search Wolfe's name and Missouri resignation.
If this silly **** qualifies as an unsafe environment then every woman on a college campus should be on strike.
A howling Twitter mob, lacking any brains or capacity to consider any view but their own.
A howling Twitter mob, lacking any brains or capacity to consider any view but their own.
It seems as though we are honestly starting to see the beginning of a segregation period. I suspect your going to see a lot of people to seperate from these groups that cry at every chance.
No body can force people to do business with such idiots and it won't be long you'll see the people getting pinned in a corner will soon bail on the majority of society and then all these crybabies will cry that they don't have chances in this country.
And I'm not just talking blacks, it's whites, Chinese, Japanese, Mexican etc etc etc every nationality has a suffering POS component to it!
No body can force people to do business with such idiots and it won't be long you'll see the people getting pinned in a corner will soon bail on the majority of society and then all these crybabies will cry that they don't have chances in this country.
And I'm not just talking blacks, it's whites, Chinese, Japanese, Mexican etc etc etc every nationality has a suffering POS component to it!
I think they would have settled for some assurance that he gave a crap about it happening. I don't know if they could have caught anyone but that's not the point. He did N-O-T-H-I-N-G. Unacceptable for a man in his position. Here, read the quote from him upon stepping down...
"I take full responsibility for this frustration and I take full responsibility for the inaction that has occurred. Use my resignation to heal and start talking again."
This could have been prevented imo is all I'm saying.
What a damn joke. The only reason the athletic people came out on the side of the students is simple.
They'd be DONE on the recruiting trail.
This scenario ever were to happen at UK. I'd never donate or spend a single dime on anything involving the University again.
Unsafe learning environment my ***. 3 random incidents in 5 years. Yeah launch an investigation into an alleged racial slur from someone driving by in a damn truck. Oh my god they called me a name!!!!
This is total bs. Bunch of pansies.
They'd be DONE on the recruiting trail.
This scenario ever were to happen at UK. I'd never donate or spend a single dime on anything involving the University again.
Unsafe learning environment my ***. 3 random incidents in 5 years. Yeah launch an investigation into an alleged racial slur from someone driving by in a damn truck. Oh my god they called me a name!!!!
This is total bs. Bunch of pansies.
All I am saying is lets do a little critical analysis on this crap. Do you believe the stories?? If so why? My experience is that these claims are dubious at best and that the accusers have a larger political axe to grind. Additionally, Mizzou's head coach has a larger responsibility other than to look like a limp noodle more anxious to show solidarity with his team and try and teach them some critical thinking skills.
My larger point is everybody is so scared of being labeled a racist, bigot etc and unwilling to apply some common sense. Obviously I think most if not all of these stories of alleged racism are BS. I don't think that some lone white guys will roam on to a campus and start uttering racial slurs. That is just not credible. I sense that since one of the list of demands is that the President of Mizzou have to make some bogus statement about benefitting from white privilege is a talking point taken straight from the grievous industry play book.
My larger point is everybody is so scared of being labeled a racist, bigot etc and unwilling to apply some common sense. Obviously I think most if not all of these stories of alleged racism are BS. I don't think that some lone white guys will roam on to a campus and start uttering racial slurs. That is just not credible. I sense that since one of the list of demands is that the President of Mizzou have to make some bogus statement about benefitting from white privilege is a talking point taken straight from the grievous industry play book.
It wan't a matter of speed, it was a matter of doing nothing or worse inciting more resentment with his own actions. The president was not even qualified to be in that position to start with.
I disagree. From what I've seen and read there are plenty of people who are more than willing to be thought of as racist simple minded bigots who jump to conclusions before a great deal of the story is out. People who are ready and willing to besmirch the reputations of people they have no contact with, and know little about. People like Gary Pinkel an man who has never before given any reason to question his integrity.
Not the best timing for the whiteout scheduled against BYU this weekend.
What if I told you that Saturday’s game in Kansas City at Arrowhead was being promoted as a “whiteout?” It was on at least one t-shirt being sold by the university bookstore until the shirt was pulled from the website where you could “whiteout” for $20. The Google Cache link still exists.
What if I told you that Saturday’s game in Kansas City at Arrowhead was being promoted as a “whiteout?” It was on at least one t-shirt being sold by the university bookstore until the shirt was pulled from the website where you could “whiteout” for $20. The Google Cache link still exists.
My issue is that universities are enabling students to actually believe they should never face any adversity. Assume the stories are true; that in two separate incidents a black student was called the n-word.
1) Is that really worthy of the university system president to get involved? Bear in mind there are 40k students on campus.
2) Are two incidents of racism causing that much pain to black students at Mizzou, or is a subset of those students using that to advance their agenda?
I never cared much for the confederate flag, but it really bothered me that because some p.o.s. In South Carolina killed people in a church all references to the Confederacy had to be removed. Likewise, two separate (and much smaller) incidents at Mizzou shouldn't lead to the ouster of university officials and forced diversity training for students.
1) Is that really worthy of the university system president to get involved? Bear in mind there are 40k students on campus.
2) Are two incidents of racism causing that much pain to black students at Mizzou, or is a subset of those students using that to advance their agenda?
I never cared much for the confederate flag, but it really bothered me that because some p.o.s. In South Carolina killed people in a church all references to the Confederacy had to be removed. Likewise, two separate (and much smaller) incidents at Mizzou shouldn't lead to the ouster of university officials and forced diversity training for students.
Now THIS is a pretty solid demonstration of people being overly sensitive.
Students feeling like campus environment is unsafe or unwelcoming is a legitimate problem, but this "ZOMG?? WHITE T-SHIRTS? THAS RACIST" nonsense is ridiculous...and the funny thing is,this "outrage" is probably coming mostly from white people who aren't connected to the situation at all, but who think they're being supportive by getting worked up over completely unimportant things that were in no way, shape or form intended to insult or exclude people.
What it really does is cloud actual issues by making the situation seem as frivolous as being insulted by what appears to be an annual promotion, which was mostly likely planned before the season started, playing off a neutral color that is not part of Mizzou's traditional school colors. It's as much a promotion of white supremacy as UK's blackout game being encouragement for people to join the Black Panthers.
But enjoy feigning outrage so you feel more socially aware.
In the end, none of the social ramifications matter.
Tim Wolfe was employed to protect the standing and public reputation of the University of Missouri System. The state paid him $459,000 last year primarily to maintain the status quo and to do whatever possible to avoid the kind of social conflict and negative publicity that now will hound UM for the indefinite future.
It's a tough job, and it involves being far more "politically correct" and "inclusive" than most anyone ever would be voluntarily, but that's why they pay someone in his (former) position so handsomely.
To put it simply, Wolfe was out of touch with what was happening on his flagship campus and didn't even attempt to address the situation until it was too late.
Consider that on Sunday, the day before his resignation, Wolfe actually tried to placate his detractors by announcing that the System would announce a new diversity and inclusion policy in April 2016. Obviously, the protesters loved that.
Seriously, though, how do you not do something after someone uses human feces to paint a swastika inside a residence hall on campus, especially with all that had happened in the weeks and months prior? It's just hard to believe that no one affiliated with the university recognized the significance of what was happening and made sure that the President, Chancellor, etc. understood that they had to react. Bureaucracy at its finest, I guess.
Wolfe didn't get the job done, so he's out. Pretty simple when you actually consider what his job is (was). If I'm a Missouri alum or taxpayer, it makes perfect sense to me.
Likewise, there are a few administrators at UL that should face the same fate for the exact same reasons.
Tim Wolfe was employed to protect the standing and public reputation of the University of Missouri System. The state paid him $459,000 last year primarily to maintain the status quo and to do whatever possible to avoid the kind of social conflict and negative publicity that now will hound UM for the indefinite future.
It's a tough job, and it involves being far more "politically correct" and "inclusive" than most anyone ever would be voluntarily, but that's why they pay someone in his (former) position so handsomely.
To put it simply, Wolfe was out of touch with what was happening on his flagship campus and didn't even attempt to address the situation until it was too late.
Consider that on Sunday, the day before his resignation, Wolfe actually tried to placate his detractors by announcing that the System would announce a new diversity and inclusion policy in April 2016. Obviously, the protesters loved that.
Seriously, though, how do you not do something after someone uses human feces to paint a swastika inside a residence hall on campus, especially with all that had happened in the weeks and months prior? It's just hard to believe that no one affiliated with the university recognized the significance of what was happening and made sure that the President, Chancellor, etc. understood that they had to react. Bureaucracy at its finest, I guess.
Wolfe didn't get the job done, so he's out. Pretty simple when you actually consider what his job is (was). If I'm a Missouri alum or taxpayer, it makes perfect sense to me.
Likewise, there are a few administrators at UL that should face the same fate for the exact same reasons.
If stuff like that is the worst those students have to fear, then desegregation must've worked afterall.