I would definitely throw a cupcake or two game in if I were one of the top Ivy's. You can't replicate a first game in practice or a scrimmage. Penn St having had one or two under their belt before Princeton is a huge advantage.
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Off-topic, but many on the Virginia lacrosse board think their coach, Lars Tiffany, either resigned or not been renewed. Nothing confirmed by any poster.
I'd be surprised if true; it makes sense for nobody...
Next morning: sorry posting this. It's now seeming like it was just a bogus rumor. I try never to post "gossip" but I think I failed this time.
I'd be surprised if true; it makes sense for nobody...
Next morning: sorry posting this. It's now seeming like it was just a bogus rumor. I try never to post "gossip" but I think I failed this time.
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Duke was lucky to get in…then gets lucky to be in the easiest bracket. Richmond is a far cry from Princeton, ND, and UNC.
Penn St is a living example of more scholarships and NIL and what it does. They lose their best offensive player and they still are able to generate good offense and looks. Scholarships and NIL = depth
Is the PSU support directly from their athletic dept? In the past you have said the RU MLAX alumni support is next level
please quantify what PSU has that RU does not. In the past you said Hobbs was amazing and his support of lax was amazing. You’ve said the same of Keli. For those of us not in the loop,,specifically, what does RU need and use $$$ figures
Will we be getting the support that you’ll be outlining?
also that social media highlight offense lit it up and midget #22 had a hat trick. What does Cuse have that RU does not to explain their success?
please quantify what PSU has that RU does not. In the past you said Hobbs was amazing and his support of lax was amazing. You’ve said the same of Keli. For those of us not in the loop,,specifically, what does RU need and use $$$ figures
Will we be getting the support that you’ll be outlining?
also that social media highlight offense lit it up and midget #22 had a hat trick. What does Cuse have that RU does not to explain their success?
Ive never used the word amazing. If it was we’d be playing in the stadium the lax alum has his name on.
Hobbs was better than Pernetti. Keli is better than Hobbs. Keli is at a different time when NIl and more scholarships are now a part of lacrosse. PSU has 30 scholarships and NIL. We aren’t near that yet but we have more than we had and more are coming. OSU and Hopkins are all close to that in our conference too. All 3 are very well resourced. OSUs starting 10 last year had $1MM in total NIL You see it on the field. I don’t have intel on Maryland as to exactly what they have but it would be surprising if they weren’t close. Talent can be stockpiled in a way in couldn’t before because of it.
What does Syracuse have? Both public and institutional support that Rutgers does not have along with a storied history. They put 10-15,000 in the Dome regularly for home game, sometimes more with the right opponents. And more money into the program. Add to that a storied history over the last 40 years that sells itself. And they can go even further back to the days of Jim Brown.
Sarah has one booster who does all of the heavy lifting. Certainly they have institutional support but I wouldn’t count on that continuing at any major level. Their football program needs to be funded and Acc payouts are woeful. They need money wherever they can get it. Best thing they have going is their history and attendance. Though that wanes when not winning.
Lars Tiffany has been fired by Virginia. He has won two national titles and three ACC Championships including this year, illustrating how far off we are from top tier programs in terms of expectations.
That is less about performance. Very few people in that program, alums, players, boosters, liked him. He had no allies.
Hope they don't go after Sean Kirwan, who was the OC at UVA until 3 years ago when he became HC at Dartmouth. That's a tough task, but he has made slow but steady progress with increased college president and athletic director support and has a solid class of recruits coming in. Ajax Zappitillo is current an assistant working with the D. Ironically, that's where Tiffany got his D1 start as an assistant in 1999.
He has an easygoing "kumbyah" personality that one doesn't see much in the uber-competitive athletic world. Not everybody liked that, there or anywhere.
My personality is actually kind of similar, which was very off-putting and rare in the wrestling world that I occupied for a long time, so I always kind of identified with him.
I am surprised at this news...
Speaking of ACC-B1G-BIgEast schools, how many of them are fully funding how many scholarships? It's another MIL to fund up to 40. Is that now coming from the general athletic budget that's already underwater and with revenue sharing blowing an additional 20 MIL hole in it?
Now if 40 guys are getting full rides, what's the next step? NIL on top of that? Are #4 and #23 at Penn State getting NIL? If so, how much and from whom? Different stories are told about the NIL clearing house and what, if any affect it's having on NIL deals and specifically on non-rev sports.
500K per year and we have a consistent top 10 program, with the added schollys???? asking Cali-mdk02-Family
I would have to think every parent will be discussing $$/NIL on the sidelines of the top travel clubs in a few weeks. Those are relatively small groups. I would think this info is fairly known?
Now if 40 guys are getting full rides, what's the next step? NIL on top of that? Are #4 and #23 at Penn State getting NIL? If so, how much and from whom? Different stories are told about the NIL clearing house and what, if any affect it's having on NIL deals and specifically on non-rev sports.
500K per year and we have a consistent top 10 program, with the added schollys???? asking Cali-mdk02-Family
I would have to think every parent will be discussing $$/NIL on the sidelines of the top travel clubs in a few weeks. Those are relatively small groups. I would think this info is fairly known?
I'm asking in general, not necessarily RU specially. Just trying to understand how high the hill is to climb to be on the same playing field financially as Georgetown-UVA-PennState etc
It’s not a huge hill at all. IDK any teams that are giving full schollies across the roster. Some doing 30 meaning top recruits may get full and rest get divided to cover the 48+ on rosters. NIL is grossly overstated. Most schools still aren’t paying NIL including some of the top 10. The UNC kids aren’t getting anything close to what’s been reported.
Pretty high. Going from 12.6 scholarships to 30 overnight isn't easy. That's what we are competing with in our conference, not to mention NIL. We've lost players specifically to Penn St. because of NIL. It was tough watching that play out on the field. Keli is attacking that though so while we won't be at the high end, Brian and staff will be able to bring a knife to the fight instead of their bare hands. It was refreshing to hear her speak directly about this when she addressed the alumni/boosters at the alumni game. She's on it. It's going to take more than just her, but she understands the landscape. As mentioned, OSU's starting 10 last year had a combined $1MM in NIL.
I wouldn't put Uva in that bucket. They have a lot of work to do on both the NIL and scholarship front, which their AD apparently tasked their alums with to fund their scholarships. They have some deep pocket alums though so I would be surprised if they didn't make it happen. Some of these schools that don't get the conference money others do are really stretched thin to keep football near the top of what of what other schools are doing, and it all comes at the expense of every other sport, all while the NCAA increased the scholarship limit to 48. I don't think it necessary today, but it's only a matter of time before a number of schools are at that number.
Ooof. Just saw Virginia’s press release. 2 nattys and a bunch of playoff seasons and they only give him a couple of sentences. Rough business.
Princeton MLAX is practicing now, so I guess they are still in the tourney!
How do you think the final four will go?
Yea they are in the FF. I thought they were the best team all year. Not changing that thought now.Princeton MLAX is practicing now, so I guess they are still in the tourney!
How do you think the final four will go?