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Mets and Royals have outclassed their opponents in these series'. Pitching is defeating hitting...

Yep which is why no need to waste a ton of money on big bats.

My favorite team the Angels always falter because they have ignored pitching forever and have wasted money on Pujols and Hamilton (at the time) .
 

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Yep which is why no need to waste a ton of money on big bats.

My favorite team the Angels always falter because they have ignored pitching forever and have wasted money on Pujols and Hamilton (at the time) .

Well it was the big bats that basically got the Cubs past the Cardinals. They hit just 12 home runs against the Cards in 19 games this season, but in the playoffs they hit 10 in 3 games. They lived by the long ball. Problem is that you often die by the long ball as well.
 

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Batting .158 against Mets pitching this series. They would have to beat Matz, Harvey, Syndergaard and deGrom in that order to dig out of a hole that's virtually impossible to dig out of. Been a good ride Cubbies. Stage left is that way.
 

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Batting .158 against Mets pitching this series. They would have to beat Matz, Harvey, Syndergaard and deGrom in that order to dig out of a hole that's virtually impossible to dig out of. Been a good ride Cubbies. Stage left is that way.
 
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I'm a Reds fan, but all of this jazz about the NLCentral being a tough division (not necessarily in this thread) is a bunch of hoooey. The Cards, Cubs and Pirates take turns beating up on the Reds and Brewers and then try and break even with each other. Seems like about the same thing every year, except sometimes the Reds rise to the top for a little bit and beat up on the Cubs and/or Pirates. Maybe someday someone else besides the stupid *** Cardinals will win a real series, but until then, it's kinda pitiful.

Or maybe not. I'm sort of tired.
 

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Why? KC is traditionally baseball Rich. It's amazing how people really forget because they sucked for so long while STL did so well.......and the Mets are NY.

Measuring talent they are a great matchup for pitching duels or a high scoring game.

What else can you ask for from a series with a great shot to go 7?
 

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I think it's just the fanbases, Krazy. Encountered a bunch of dbags during the Royals/Angels series last year and New Yorkers are well, New Yorkers.

Probably prefer the Mets
 

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Well it was the big bats that basically got the Cubs past the Cardinals. They hit just 12 home runs against the Cards in 19 games this season, but in the playoffs they hit 10 in 3 games. They lived by the long ball. Problem is that you often die by the long ball as well.

Why do you think the Cubs hit all of those homeruns? Because the Cardinals pitching was severely depleted. Wainwright had just come off the DL, Lackey pitched on short rest in Game 4, Wacha had been struggling since September, Martinez didn't pitch at all, and Garcia was a disaster in Game 2.

The Cards got by on pitching all year, but it was all gone by postseason.
 

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While the pitching wasn't on point for STL, moving to Harvery\Syndergard/DeGrom is a huge difference too if we are being honest.

Also 20 MPH wind blowing straight out did not hurt, put the Cubs can absolutely mash and to be honest if you don't have superb pitching this is about as far as you can get.
 

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Can't believe other teams allowed the Royals to get Cueto from the Reds for nothing. It's like some shady deal in fantasy where someone takes advantage of the league idiot.
 

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Murphy breaking records.

If Murphy stays this hot and pitching can just be decent, World Series is a wrap in 5 games.
 

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Can't believe other teams allowed the Royals to get Cueto from the Reds for nothing. It's like some shady deal in fantasy where someone takes advantage of the league idiot.

All stars when traded are always traded for prospects leading people to believe they got "nothing". Just how baseball works. Those kids are all going to be solid contributors 2-4 type quality starters for year.

Cincinnati had no choice after pinning themselves with Votto, Bruce and Bailey and not dumping BP and eating some of his deal. Couldn't let Cueto simply walk so no they did not receive nothing.
 
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All stars when traded are always traded for prospects leading people to believe they got "nothing". Just how baseball works. Those kids are all going to be solid contributors 2-4 type quality starters for year.

Cincinnati had no choice after pinning themselves with Votto, Bruce and Bailey and not dumping BP and eating some of his deal. Couldn't let Cueto simply walk so no they did not receive nothing.

I agree. IMO the Reds did EXACTLY what they needed to do in this case. IMO, thye need to do more of the same....trade players like V, Bruce, Phillips, Chapman for as many prospects as they can get.
 

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With Mattingly Gone, who do you think the Dodgers will get? Dusty?

For as long as the Reds have been bad, it seems to me that they would have done a better job with younger talent. In reality though, it is just not there. Still several years and several internal changes away from being relevant.
 

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Why do you think the Cubs hit all of those homeruns? Because the Cardinals pitching was severely depleted. Wainwright had just come off the DL, Lackey pitched on short rest in Game 4, Wacha had been struggling since September, Martinez didn't pitch at all, and Garcia was a disaster in Game 2.

The Cards got by on pitching all year, but it was all gone by postseason.

Well you can attribute it to either the Cubs being really hot or the Cardinals pitching being poor. It may have been a bit of both. I just thought it was crazy that the Cubs suddenly hit that many home runs in the series when they struggled to hit them all year against the Cardinals.
 

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For as long as the Reds have been bad, it seems to me that they would have done a better job with younger talent. In reality though, it is just not there. Still several years and several internal changes away from being relevant.[/QUOTE]

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As a Pirates fan, it sucks knowing that Jake Arrieta's only good game in the postseason was the one that knocked us out. The one-game playoff is unfair.
 

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As a Pirates fan, it sucks knowing that Jake Arrieta's only good game in the postseason was the one that knocked us out. The one-game playoff is unfair.

My prediction: the Wild Card Round will be a three-game series within the next 5-to-10 seasons.
 

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As a Pirates fan, it sucks knowing that Jake Arrieta's only good game in the postseason was the one that knocked us out. The one-game playoff is unfair.

I would like to see a change where the team with the worst record actually plays the best team and so on. This year you had the 3 best records all come out of the NL Central. Unfortunately, that meant that the two wild card teams were both from the NL Central and the winner then had to play the team with the best record in baseball, also from the NL Central. Meanwhile, the Dodgers and Mets are over there enjoying the heck out of the fact that they don't have to face the teams with the three best records until the NLCS.

Maybe it would be good for this year to have had the Pirates/Cubs play in the wild card game for the chance to end up playing the Dodgers while the Cardinals took on the Mets. In the AL the system worked and was fine, but I'm not a big fan of the playoff setup when the three best teams come from the same division.
 

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I think it's just the fanbases, Krazy. Encountered a bunch of dbags during the Royals/Angels series last year and New Yorkers are well, New Yorkers.

Probably prefer the Mets

I'll say it again, I think you're confusing the fanbases. I'll give you Yankee fans being some of the worst in sports (I'd easily put them in my top10 worst professional fanbases). Mets fans are very grounded. The only team they hate on is their own. Well, they hate the Phillies too, but again.. top10 worst fanbases.. Philly might be #1 so they deserve it.

Mets fans love the game itself and are students of it. The dumbest Mets fan I know is smarter than 90% of Yankee fans last year. In that respect, they are a lot like Kentucky fans. Just more.. depressing. Like if Charlie Brown was a Wildcats fan.. That's a Mets fan.
 

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I would like to see a change where the team with the worst record actually plays the best team and so on. This year you had the 3 best records all come out of the NL Central. Unfortunately, that meant that the two wild card teams were both from the NL Central and the winner then had to play the team with the best record in baseball, also from the NL Central. Meanwhile, the Dodgers and Mets are over there enjoying the heck out of the fact that they don't have to face the teams with the three best records until the NLCS.

Maybe it would be good for this year to have had the Pirates/Cubs play in the wild card game for the chance to end up playing the Dodgers while the Cardinals took on the Mets. In the AL the system worked and was fine, but I'm not a big fan of the playoff setup when the three best teams come from the same division.

Yep, needs to be seeded based on records. Also, not really fair for the Cubs to not have home field when they had a better record and went 7-0 against the Mets in the regular season.
 

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^ Cubs can't really complain...Lost 2 in NY, lost 2 in Chicago...the 7-0 record was before Cespedes as well.
 
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Is there anyone in sports coaching dumber than ANY manager of a MLB baseball team? The Royals might have just cost themselves a trip to the World Series because you can't use your "closer" in any inning other than the 9th. Absolutely idiotic.
 

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Cubs aren't complaining, they blew their wad on STL and by all means for what we were that's ok this year. Disappointing to get swept like that and completely shutdown and beat up but again win we beat STL it should have been somewhat predictable that we were in for a let down.

I'd love to see Cueto get one but I can not see NY losing a series with that pitching.
 
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Toronto totally choked. Runners at second and third and no one out and two guys strike out and Donaldson grounds out.
 
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I will say that Marlins team was damn good!
As a kid that grew up in central Florida and followed the Marlins from the inaugural season, that was a very fun season. For some reason I was a reds fan before then (mainly because I didn't like the braves) and since being transplanted to Kentucky in 95, have developed into one again.

That marlins team was stacked. Pitching and offense was phenomenal. Was also fun watching a young Miguel Cabrera.