Seems to me that this Elrod fellow knew the risks involved in the clandestine exchange of information to Louisville. I wonder if money was exchanged to compensate him of this risk ? I would be interested in knowing this from the investigation. I also wonder if Jurich already knows the answer to this question which would explain the suspension of Galloway this past week ?
money involved ??
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Opinion time....Louisville didn't cover the spread in that game...it was something like 34, 35.
Just stuff I've heard on broadcast is Elrod had some personal issues with the Wake staff...he had been close to the previous staff, he and his wife were struggling with emotions from losing a child.....life can make you literally crazy sometimes.
As far as Jurich...it seems he was...advised...that somebody better take a hit. Let's face it...Petrino has an offensive coordinator???????? I expect with the late season difficulties in defense for the Cards that Coach Grantham will also be found accountable and quietly released.
I do find it peculiar that coach Galloway quickly obtained legal counsel...since he was announced as suspended for one game, not fired.
Pass the popcorn....gonna get heated.
Just stuff I've heard on broadcast is Elrod had some personal issues with the Wake staff...he had been close to the previous staff, he and his wife were struggling with emotions from losing a child.....life can make you literally crazy sometimes.
As far as Jurich...it seems he was...advised...that somebody better take a hit. Let's face it...Petrino has an offensive coordinator???????? I expect with the late season difficulties in defense for the Cards that Coach Grantham will also be found accountable and quietly released.
I do find it peculiar that coach Galloway quickly obtained legal counsel...since he was announced as suspended for one game, not fired.
Pass the popcorn....gonna get heated.
Elrod was on Jim Grobes staff at Wake Forest for a long time. When Grobe left and the new Head Coach came in Elrod wasn't offered a position in the new staff. So he went into the radio booth and being a former player and coach at WF he had full access to everything. I haven't heard anything about him and his wife losing a child.
There was a media person in north Carolina that made that statement in an interview I heard on the radio. He was clearly making excuses for Elrod's behavior. He also commented about how tough it was to lose his coaching job and how hard it was to take a pay cut doing radio, blah blah blah.
He either did it to get back at Wake Forest or he did it for financial gaid.
He either did it to get back at Wake Forest or he did it for financial gaid.
The ACC is done with their investigation and made no mention of money being exchanged what so ever. So until new evidence says other wise it looks kind of like a revenge thing for not being retained on the new staff.
Curious, how do you know the ACC is finished investigating? Did they announce that or is that Jurich's dictate? And didn't this go back to at least 2014? That would be a very short investigation if so. I mean, just because UL does exhaustive 5 minute investigations doesn't mean everyone does.
This situation has the potential to get really dirty if the NCAA and ACC has the stones to pry it apart. It is hard to believe that this fellow would do this repeatedly without a better payback besides revenge. Money from opponents or gamblers would seem to be a likely answer to the question of why this guy took the chance to end his career and make him a pariah in his community.
Especially since the guy is an alum of WF, former player, and coach. Never heard of anyone turning on his college, etc. if money was not involved.
I said this and argued with many the day it was all reported. Absolutely no reason the guy was doing this for free. As I've said numerous times. I guarantee money was exchanged. Why would this guy jeapordize his entire career for poops and gigs just for the good ol sake of helping honest bob? I'd bet the house money was exchanged. And i also added if so he needs to be fired but we know he won't be. They don't hold coaches to a moral standard. Of course when I was uttering these words UL fans were bombarding me with the ol tin foil hat, aliens are amongst us, conspiracy theorist. Because the only logical thing is that he was giving away information and jeapordizing his career just for fun. Riiiiiiiggghhhhtttt?
I called it the day it was reported in he first thread on here about it, and for some reason I was the only one that was saying that there was literally no way money wasn't exchanged. Was kinda weird to me. Why would this guy jeopardize everything, literally everything to help good ol honest bob out just for fun. UL fans truly have dumbed themselves down to believe that the guy was a mole just screwing his own program and they were taking what he was giving for free. Totally. Because that's exactly how human nature and the world today works. Risk your career for poops and gigs for free. UL fans are among the dumbest species on this planet. They literally don't believe there's any way possible money was exchanged when I was saying Elrod had a price and Petrino was willing to meet that price. We know the fall is gonna go on an assistant though and UL fans are going to claim honest bob knew nothing because, of course they will. He's honest bob for a reason the man doesn't lie ever. I'd bet everything I own that in actuality money was exchanged.
I don't think the ACC would have announced fines and accepted the suspension of Galloway if the ACC's investigation into the matter wasn't complete. UK fans can assume that money was involved but the facts as we know it right now is no money was ever exchanged and that Elrod only gave info to coaches that were on the same staff as him at WF.
Does it really matter what Petrino has to say since UK fans won't believe whatever he says anyway.
Why wouldnt we believe Petrino? Its not like he has a history of lying.
I agree...it's not like he denied everything about this in front of the cameras. People are just way to hard on Coach Petrino. Everyone deserves a second chance...or even third or fourth.
Bobby Neckbrace has proved repeatedly that he is a pathologically lying, ethically challenged sack of dung. Why ANYONE would believe ANYTHING that he says is beyond me.
This would only make since if UL did cover. Getting inside information shouldn't make them lose by less.
The ACC has almost every dog in this fight.
You honestly think that are unbiased in their investigation?
The ACC is going to take the UNC investigation approach. They are not going to investigate full throttle on this, do you really want to find out that virtually every one of you institutions received information. I think money was exchanged as well, just my opinion. I think something will come out like a OTL or something that will blow the doors off. Wait and see. It will be ugly when everything is brought out, how far it went, who was involved, who paid for information.
I mean the ACC is about as dirty as SEC. SEC just kills each other in recruiting etc..
I mean the ACC is about as dirty as SEC. SEC just kills each other in recruiting etc..
As others have said that Elrod was just a bitter troubled guy. He lost his newborn son and weeks later the new staff at WF did not retain him. He has played at WF, been a grad Asst and then assistant coach for many years and Grobe was his friend. The new staff came in and trashed what his staff had done. He just tried to get back at them.
Also WF said he gave the info out to many schools over 3 years. So far only UL, VT and Army have admitted it. You can sure there is more up if WF is not going to admit it I expect no other schools will come forward. Just my theory Army and VT have one thing in common. New coaches so they can say they are upset and do nothing.
there's some more scandal somewhere in this whole "wakey-leaks" situation...
somebody associated with Wake slept with Elrod's wife or he owed somebody some money...or its a small part of a larger scheme that involves teams leaking info to other teams so the big boys can feast, pad stats, and ensure national standing...
somebody associated with Wake slept with Elrod's wife or he owed somebody some money...or its a small part of a larger scheme that involves teams leaking info to other teams so the big boys can feast, pad stats, and ensure national standing...
Bill, I don't believe Coach Grantham will be released, unless Jurich and Petrino needs a fall-guy besides Calloway. He is a good coach and a very good recruiter.
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Hoss, tell it like it really is. Quit apple-polishing it. Don't hold anything back! Tell us your real feelings about Lying Petrino and Crazy Jurich.
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I'd oblige you willie, but it would get the thread deleted and me banned....:scream:
If there is it won't be with Louisville or VA. Tech or the ACC wouldn't have already fined both school if they felt there was more to the story with those two schools.
Listening to Kyle Flood the other night on SiriusXM he said coaches sometimes do call each other if they have a common opponent. His example was Urban Myer calling Tom Herman this year after Houston beat Oklahoma. You can bet if Oklahoma and UK had a common opponent that the Stoop Brothers would be talking to each other. I wouldn't doubt if Mark Stoops didnt talk to Jimbo Fischer some pint after FSU lost to Louisville so maybe Stoops could ask Jimbo where he felt FSU's game against Louisville went wrong. Now I have no idea if Stoops and Jimbo discussed Louisville but if the two have a good relationship they may have.
I wasn't comparing the two just responding to the post I had quoted about the poster talking about teams sharing info.
Coaches talking to other coaches about a common opponent shouldn't even be in the same thread as this. That statement doesn't belong in this thread because its in no way comparable. Yes money was exchanged the man didn't jeopardize his entire career that he worked for to just 'give away information for free' to good ol honest bob. If you believe he was doing it for free. Than you're obviously just another UL fan that lacks common sense and you believe everything Bobby p says even though Bobby o denied the whole thing from the very beginning as if it was some asinine rumor that made no sense. His nickname is honest bob for a reason. I assume you're naive enough to believe that the guy was risking his career for free for nothing in return. I 100% believe you're naive enough to believe that. I also believe that you believe that honest bob had no knowledge of the situation in any way the same way you believe honest Rick didn't know about the brothel U situation that went on for 4 years. It's crazy how much UL fans dumb themselves down and ignore common sense just for the sake of defending POS coaches that belong behind bars.
Yup. Of course honest Rick had no clue what was going on for 4 years with 95% of his players on his title team. It was all Mcgee he did it all on his own he was paying for all those strippers for 4 years with money out of his pocket even though he didn't even make money as a coach. I just wish uL fans could explain where Mcgee got the money to pay for it for 4 years and if they truly believe he went out of his own pocket, on his own, to pay for prostitutes even though he didn't have a salary that could in any way afford it. Where the money come from? And you truly believe honest Rick had no knowledge? Common sense does not exist amongst UL fans and it's HILARIOUS. You all literally sacrifice all common sense you all have just to defend shadey characters that belong behind bars.
Are you all proud that winning matters more than having coaches who aren't POS's? And why in the hell is Pitino still allowed to coach at UL?????? Not a single school in this country would retain a coach that's been thru all the shady scandals that Pitino has been thru in such a short time. Why is he still there? Never understood why they retained him as head coach. Is winning really that important to you to where y'all can't afford to fire a man that belongs behind bars because yall won't win as much? Is it because you're too scared to fall light years behind UK in athletics in the major sports as a university so you all decide to just embrace the win at all costs even if it means making our university a brothel approach because you don't want UK to be an exponentially better university when it comes to winning?
Truly a pathetic university. Our university wouldn't embrace the win at all costs approach we would swallow our pride and let UL surge ahead as the top athletic school in the major sports in the state instead of allowing our university be a brothel for underage kids. And we would never go as far as to encourage the whole university brothel idea by retaining the HC just so our rivals won't humiliate us on the court on a yearly basis (even though we do this while you all embrace the whole win at all costs culture, which is truly embarrassing). Y'all really are just scared of falling light years behind UK so y'all have decided to just ditch morals all together because it's your only chance at keeping pace. Just win baby!!!!
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