More than 5,500 illegals registered to vote in VA, over 1,800 actually cast ballots

[WVPATX]

Talk about damage to our voting process. But for the Dems, nothing to see here, move along. I wonder why?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/30/illegals-in-virginia-registered-vote-in-elections/

 

[moe]

Talk about damage to our voting process. But for the Dems, nothing to see here, move along. I wonder why?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/30/illegals-in-virginia-registered-vote-in-elections/

When do you think that the so called prez's commission to look into the massive voter fraud that took place in the 2016 presidential election will be ready to issue a report/recommendations? Seeing how up to 4 million ineligible voters cast votes for Hillary it should be a priority for him.

 

[WVPATX]

When do you think that the so called prez's commission to look into the massive voter fraud that took place in the 2016 presidential election will be ready to issue a report/recommendations? Seeing how up to 4 million illegal voters cast votes for Hillary it should be a priority for him.

Forget about the 4,000,000. Over 1,800 is destructive of our voting process. Those 1,800 illegal votes destroyed 1,800 American votes. You can't even acknowledge it is a subversion of our democracy. How many races have been decided by far fewer votes? Gore/Bush ring a bell? Al, the idiot, Franken, ring a bell?

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

I heard it was 3-5 million.

#covfefe

 

[WVPATX]

I heard it was 3-5 million.

#covfefe

Apparently libs don't care about the subversion of democracy because you believe the illegals voted for Dems. This will provide powerful evidence for ID laws around the country. It is interesting that libs put party above country. Nice to know.

 

[moe]

Forget about the 4,000,000. Over 1,800 is destructive of our voting process. Those 1,800 illegal votes destroyed 1,800 American votes. You can't even acknowledge it is a subversion of our democracy. How many races have been decided by far fewer votes? Gore/Bush ring a bell? Al, the idiot, Franken, ring a bell?

County clerks in every county in the nation should be continually purging their voter registration lists of dead people and anyone else who shouldn't be on them. This issue has been going on for many decades and it's part of what a county clerk does. It's nothing new. The 1,800 number is over a decade too. I'm not sure why you dismiss the up to 4 million ineligible voters that the so called prez claims voted for Hillary. 4 million is a much bigger number than 180 (1,800/10 years).

 

[WVPATX]

County clerks in every county in the nation should be continually purging their voter registration lists of dead people and anyone else who shouldn't be on them. This issue has been going on for many decades and it's part of what a county clerk does. It's nothing new. The 1,800 number is over a decade too. I'm not sure why you dismiss the up to 4 million ineligible voters that the so called prez claims voted for Hillary. 4 million is a much bigger number than 180 (1,800/10 years).

I am concerned about what has been proven. Elections are won by very small margins. Illegals could illegally tip that vote and subvert our democracy and you seem to be ok with it as long as the Dems benefit. Appalling.

 

[moe]

I am concerned about what has been proven. Elections are won by very small margins. Illegals could illegally tip that vote and subvert our democracy and you seem to be ok with it as long as the Dems benefit. Appalling.

Apparently you didn't read the part of my post regarding county clerks purging ineligible voters from their lists of registered voters, try reading my post again.

 

[WVPATX]

Apparently you didn't read the part of my post regarding county clerks purging their rolls, try reading my post again.

They should do that but many states don't or at least don't keep up nearly as well as they should. The fact is over 1,800 illegal votes were cast in Virginia alone with over 5,000 illegally registered to vote. You don't care because you believe most vote Dem. To hell with the law. To hell with our democratic elections. Do whatever it takes to win.

And purging the voter roles may have little to do with phone registrations.

 

[moe]

They should do that but many states don't or at least don't keep up nearly as well as they should. The fact is over 1,800 illegal votes were cast in Virginia alone with over 5,000 illegally registered to vote. You don't care because you believe most vote Dem. To hell with the law. To hell with our democratic elections. Do whatever it takes to win.

And purging the voter roles may have little to do with phone registrations.

Why can't you read? What is wrong with you? Why do you think that I say that county clerks should do their jobs and clean up their registered voter lists? It's like someone pulls your string and taped messages just keep landing on the message board with no regard for what someone has just said to you. Do you think you have Alzheimer's or dementia? Maybe see a doctor.

 

[WVPATX]

Why can't you read? What is wrong with you? Why do you think that I say that county clerks should do their jobs and clean up their registered voter lists? It's like someone pulls your string and taped messages just keep landing on the message board with no regard for what someone has just said to you. Do you think you have Alzheimer's or dementia? Maybe see a doctor.

Hey idiot, I posted that the voter roles may have played little to no part in the illegal registrations. How about phony ID's? How about states requiring no ID's. You argument is very, very incomplete.

 

[Keyser76]

Be afraid of the brown people, lol, yeah, all the laborers I've known without papers are sure to go vote!

 

[moe]

Hey idiot, I posted that the voter roles may have played little to no part in the illegal registrations. How about phony ID's? How about states requiring no ID's. You argument is very, very incomplete.

And you provide no argument for tougher voter registration laws only your weak, baseless opinion.

 

[WVPATX]

And you provide no argument for tougher voter registration laws only your weak, baseless opinion.

No argument? Over 5,000 illegal registered to vote in VA. Over 1,800 illegals actually voted and I have provided no argument for tougher voter registration and ID laws? Wow.

 

[moe]

No argument? Over 5,000 illegal registered to vote in VA. Over 1,800 illegals actually voted and I have provided no argument for tougher voter registration and ID laws? Wow.

County clerks aren't doing their job very well there.

 

[WVPATX]

County clerks aren't doing their job very well there.

You are truly an idiot. County clerks may be doing a great job but when a state does not require any proof of citizenship or any ID to vote, this stuff happens.

This is not to say that some states are very lax and should be doing a better job, but even if they do, in some states it won't matter because they require no ID.

 

[moe]

You are truly an idiot. County clerks may be doing a great job but when a state does not require any proof of citizenship or any ID to vote, this stuff happens.

This is not to say that some states are very lax and should be doing a better job, but even if they do, in some states it won't matter because they require no ID.

Hey McFly, you use Virginia as your example. To register to vote in Virginia you must meet the following:

To be Eligible to Register to Vote in Virginia a Person must:

• Be a resident of Virginia (a person who has come to Virginia for temporary purposes and intends to return to another state is not considered a resident for voting purposes).
• Be a U. S. Citizen.
• Be 18 years old (any person who is 17 years old and will be eighteen years of age at the next general election shall be permitted to register in advance and also vote in any intervening primary or special election).
• Not be registered and plan to vote in another state.
• Not currently declared mentally incompetent by a court of law.
• If convicted of a felony, your right to vote must have been restored.

and on election day in Virginia, you must produce a photo ID to cast a ballot. It looks like Virginia, your prime example of lax voter registration/election day fraud has all of the safe guards that you are calling for.

http://www.elections.virginia.gov/registration/how-to-register/index.html

 

[WVPATX]

Hey McFly, you use Virginia as your example. To register to vote in Virginia you must meet the following:

To be Eligible to Register to Vote in Virginia a Person must:

• Be a resident of Virginia (a person who has come to Virginia for temporary purposes and intends to return to another state is not considered a resident for voting purposes).
• Be a U. S. Citizen.
• Be 18 years old (any person who is 17 years old and will be eighteen years of age at the next general election shall be permitted to register in advance and also vote in any intervening primary or special election).
• Not be registered and plan to vote in another state.
• Not currently declared mentally incompetent by a court of law.
• If convicted of a felony, your right to vote must have been restored.

and on election day in Virginia, you must produce a photo ID to cast a ballot. It looks like Virginia, your prime example of lax voter registration/election day fraud has all of the safe guards that you are calling for.

http://www.elections.virginia.gov/registration/how-to-register/index.html

That is terrific, but as you can see below, highly flawed. But Virginia is but one example. Dems says there is no voter fraud. They lie. Many states don't require proof of citizenship or ID's. Much easier to cheat. They do so because they claim there is no voter fraud. Virginia has proven that to be incorrect.

Moreover, it seems that VA does not have a proof of citizenship if you were registered prior to 2018. And anyone can get a fake drivers license. I had one in high school to buy beer.

Virginia already has a photo ID requirement, but the citizenship measure would require residents to show a passport, birth certificate, naturalization document or other federally accepted documents in order to register to vote in local elections. It would not apply to voters registered before Jan. 1, 2018.

Some states proof of citizenship is simply signing a document saying you are a citizen. Yeah, that will stop illegal voting.

 

[moe]

That is terrific, but as you can see below, highly flawed. But Virginia is but one example. Dems says there is no voter fraud. They lie. Many states don't require proof of citizenship or ID's. Much easier to cheat. They do so because they claim there is no voter fraud. Virginia has proven that to be incorrect.

Moreover, it seems that VA does not have a proof of citizenship if you were registered prior to 2018. And anyone can get a fake drivers license. I had one in high school to buy beer.

Virginia already has a photo ID requirement, but the citizenship measure would require residents to show a passport, birth certificate, naturalization document or other federally accepted documents in order to register to vote in local elections. It would not apply to voters registered before Jan. 1, 2018.

Some states proof of citizenship is simply signing a document saying you are a citizen. Yeah, that will stop illegal voting.

All I can do is prove you wrong, again. Save your incoherent rambling rant for one of your right wing Trumpist buddies.

 

[WVPATX]

All I can do is prove you wrong, again. Save your incoherent rambling rant for one of your right wing Trumpist buddies.

LMAO. You proved me wrong? LOL. You told me VA required proof of citizenship. You either lied or did not know the facts. You don't acknowledge that many states don't require either form of ID. We now know voter fraud is real.

 

[moe]

LMAO. You proved me wrong? LOL. You told me VA required proof of citizenship. You either lied or did not know the facts. You don't acknowledge that many states don't require either form of ID. We now know voter fraud is real.

Click the link for Virginia voter registration that I provided and then get an adult to explain it to you. Those rules are in effect now. I don't know what else to do for you.

 

[WVPATX]

Click the link for Virginia voter registration that I provided and then get an adult to explain it to you. Those rules are in effect now. I don't know what else to do for you.

I researched the citizenship requirement. Does not apply to those registered prior to 2018.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/virginia-voter-citizenship_us_58937afde4b07595d05a4bdd

BTW, the Huffington Post is liberal, very liberal.

The Virginia House of Delegates passed a measure on Wednesday that would require residents to show proof of citizenship before registering to vote.

The bill is the latest example of several voting restrictions that Republicans are pushing across the country as President Donald Trump has falsely claimed that millions voted illegally in last year’s election. While the office ofVirginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) says he would veto the bill and Republicans do not have a veto-proof legislative majority, the bill signals the kinds of voting restrictions that Republicans in different statesare on the verge of passing under Trump.

Virginia already has a photo ID requirement, but the citizenship measure would require residents to show a passport, birth certificate, naturalization document or other federally accepted documents in order to register to vote in local elections. It would not apply to voters registered before Jan. 1, 2018.

The

 

[moe]

I researched the citizenship requirement. Does not apply to those registered prior to 2018.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/virginia-voter-citizenship_us_58937afde4b07595d05a4bdd

BTW, the Huffington Post is liberal, very liberal.

The Virginia House of Delegates passed a measure on Wednesday that would require residents to show proof of citizenship before registering to vote.

The bill is the latest example of several voting restrictions that Republicans are pushing across the country as President Donald Trump has falsely claimed that millions voted illegally in last year’s election. While the office ofVirginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) says he would veto the bill and Republicans do not have a veto-proof legislative majority, the bill signals the kinds of voting restrictions that Republicans in different statesare on the verge of passing under Trump.

Virginia already has a photo ID requirement, but the citizenship measure would require residents to show a passport, birth certificate, naturalization document or other federally accepted documents in order to register to vote in local elections. It would not apply to voters registered before Jan. 1, 2018.

The

As of right now....

To be Eligible to Register to Vote in Virginia a Person must:

• 
  
  
  • Be a resident of Virginia (a person who has come to Virginia for temporary purposes and intends to return to another state is not considered a resident for voting purposes).
  • Be a U. S. Citizen.

 

[WVPATX]

As of right now....

To be Eligible to Register to Vote in Virginia a Person must:

• 
  
  
  • Be a resident of Virginia (a person who has come to Virginia for temporary purposes and intends to return to another state is not considered a resident for voting purposes).
  • Be a U. S. Citizen.

Can't you read. They only have to prove citizenship if they register AFTER 2018.

 

[moe]

Can't you read. They only have to prove citizenship if they register AFTER 2018.

Why are you talking about a bill that's not even law (and won't be)? You're saying that the requirements listed on the Virginia state site aren't true?

 

[WVPATX]

Why are you talking about a bill that's not even law (and won't be)? You're saying that the requirements listed on the Virginia state site aren't true?

What part of this do you not understand:

Virginia already has a photo ID requirement, but the citizenship measure would require residents to show a passport, birth certificate, naturalization document or other federally accepted documents in order to register to vote in local elections. It would not apply to voters registered before Jan. 1, 2018.

 

[moe]

What part of this do you not understand:

Virginia already has a photo ID requirement, but the citizenship measure would require residents to show a passport, birth certificate, naturalization document or other federally accepted documents in order to register to vote in local elections. It would not apply to voters registered before Jan. 1, 2018.

What part of current Virginia voting requirements that require you to be a U.S. citizen and Virginia resident do you not understand? Read your own article, the bill that you keep referring to will not become law as the gov will veto it and it won't be overridden.

 

[WVPATX]

What part of current Virginia voting requirements that require you to be a U.S. citizen and Virginia resident do you not understand? Read your own article, the bill that you keep referring to will not become law as the gov will veto it and it won't be overridden.

http://www.elections.virginia.gov/registration/photo-ids-required-to-vote/

As you can see, Virginia does not now require proof of citizenship.

Photo ID Required to Vote
About Virginia Voter Photo Identification

Virginia law requires all voters to provide an acceptable form of photo identification (photo ID) when voting in person at their polling place.

There are many different types of photo IDs that voters can use when they vote. All of the acceptable forms of photo ID can be used up to a year after ID has expired. These photo IDs include:

• Valid Virginia Driver’s License or Identification Card
• Valid Virginia DMV issued Veteran’s ID card
• Valid United States Passport
• Other government-issued photo identification cards (must be issued by US Government, the Commonwealth of Virginia, or a political subdivision of the Commonwealth)
• Tribal enrollment or other tribal ID issued by one of 11 tribes recognized by the Commonwealth of Virginia
• Valid college or university student photo identification card (must be from an institution of higher education located in Virginia)
• Valid student ID issued by a public school or private school in Virginia displaying a photo
• Employee identification card containing a photograph of the voter and issued by an employer of the voter in the ordinary course of the employer’s business

 

[moe]

http://www.elections.virginia.gov/registration/photo-ids-required-to-vote/

As you can see, Virginia does not now require proof of citizenship.

Photo ID Required to Vote
About Virginia Voter Photo Identification

Virginia law requires all voters to provide an acceptable form of photo identification (photo ID) when voting in person at their polling place.

There are many different types of photo IDs that voters can use when they vote. All of the acceptable forms of photo ID can be used up to a year after ID has expired. These photo IDs include:

• Valid Virginia Driver’s License or Identification Card
• Valid Virginia DMV issued Veteran’s ID card
• Valid United States Passport
• Other government-issued photo identification cards (must be issued by US Government, the Commonwealth of Virginia, or a political subdivision of the Commonwealth)
• Tribal enrollment or other tribal ID issued by one of 11 tribes recognized by the Commonwealth of Virginia
• Valid college or university student photo identification card (must be from an institution of higher education located in Virginia)
• Valid student ID issued by a public school or private school in Virginia displaying a photo
• Employee identification card containing a photograph of the voter and issued by an employer of the voter in the ordinary course of the employer’s business

What you just provided is what a Virginia citizen needs to do on election day. That voter needs to provide proof of citizenship to register to vote. I provided that info above from the same website.

 

[WVPATX]

If that is the case, then why the new law that requires proof of citizenship? What proof of citizenship is now required? An affidavit? A social security number (which is easily made up). A drivers license?

Register to Vote in Virginia
Virginia allows you to register to vote online, in person or by mail with government offices, and at your local Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)office location.

Online
You can register online using the state's online voter registration website.

The website will walk you through the completion steps and then you'll print and sign the form before mailing it to your local voter registration office.

For you to use the online format:

• The VA DMV must be able to send the Virginia Department of Elections an electronic copy of the signature the agency has on file from your driver's license or identification card; this means you must have a driver's license or ID card with a “customer number" you can enter on the application in order to use the online format.
  • If you have a customer number but don't want to enter it online, you can choose not to consent and use another means of voter registration (see below).
• You must have and enter a Social Security number.
  • Again, if you don't want to enter the number online, you can choose another registration option (see below).
• In Person or By Mail
  To register in person or by mail, complete the Voter Registration Application (Form VA-NVRA-1) and either deliver it in person or mail it to your local voter registration office.
  
  NOTE: You can download the form using the link above, or you can obtain one from the voter registration office.
  
  At the DMV
  Like other states, Virginia allows you to register ot vote or change your voter registration information at any DMV office location. Registering to vote at the DMV is as easy as filling out the voter information section on the Driver's License and Identification Card Application (Form DL 1P).
  

 

[moe]

If that is the case, then why the new law that requires proof of citizenship? What proof of citizenship is now required? An affidavit? A social security number (which is easily made up). A drivers license?

You're the one making the claim...figure it out.
(from their website)
To be Eligible to Register to Vote in Virginia a Person must:

• 
  
  
  • Be a resident of Virginia (a person who has come to Virginia for temporary purposes and intends to return to another state is not considered a resident for voting purposes).
  • Be a U. S. Citizen.
  • Be 18 years old (any person who is 17 years old and will be eighteen years of age at the next general election shall be permitted to register in advance and also vote in any intervening primary or special election).
  • Not be registered and plan to vote in another state.
  • Not currently declared mentally incompetent by a court of law.
  • If convicted of a felony, your right to vote must have been restored.

 

[WVPATX]

You're the one making the claim...figure it out.
(from their website)
To be Eligible to Register to Vote in Virginia a Person must:

• 
  
  
  • Be a resident of Virginia (a person who has come to Virginia for temporary purposes and intends to return to another state is not considered a resident for voting purposes).
  • Be a U. S. Citizen.
  • Be 18 years old (any person who is 17 years old and will be eighteen years of age at the next general election shall be permitted to register in advance and also vote in any intervening primary or special election).
  • Not be registered and plan to vote in another state.
  • Not currently declared mentally incompetent by a court of law.
  • If convicted of a felony, your right to vote must have been restored.

My God are you dense. What is the proof required to demonstrate citizenship? A drivers license? That seems to be one option according to their website. That is not proof of citizenship, it can be faked very, very easily.

A social security number? Those are faked all the time.

 

[moe]

My God are you dense. What is the proof required to demonstrate citizenship? A drivers license? That seems to be one option according to their website. That is not proof of citizenship, it can be faked very, very easily.

A social security number? Those are faked all the time.

Why do you keep asking me these questions? I'm not the VA Secy of State. I told you to figure it out seeing as you're the one complaining about VA. I couldn't see in the website how one proves their U.S. citizenship or VA residency.

 

[Popeer]

You are truly an idiot. County clerks may be doing a great job but when a state does not require any proof of citizenship or any ID to vote, this stuff happens.
Virginia does require proof of citizenship to register to vote, and a driver's license is not considered proof of citizenship. And Virginia does require me to show my driver's license every time I vote. Now who's the idiot?

 

[WVPATX]

Why do you keep asking me these questions? I'm not the VA Secy of State. I told you to figure it out seeing as you're the one complaining about VA. I couldn't see in the website how one proves their U.S. citizenship or VA residency.

It says drivers license or social security number. That is not proof of citizenship. Thus the need for the new law.

The far bigger issue is that voter fraud is occurring and in large enough number to enact laws to ensure that only those eligible to vote, actually vote. Vote margins can be so small that even a small number of illegal votes can disenfranchise huge numbers of Americans.

 

[moe]

It says drivers license or social security number.

I'll look into it later.

 

[WVPATX]

I'll look into it later.

Do you even read the posts?

Register to Vote in Virginia
Virginia allows you to register to vote online, in person or by mail with government offices, and at your local Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)office location.

Online
You can register online using the state's online voter registration website.

The website will walk you through the completion steps and then you'll print and sign the form before mailing it to your local voter registration office.

For you to use the online format:

• The VA DMV must be able to send the Virginia Department of Elections an electronic copy of the signature the agency has on file from your driver's license or identification card; this means you must have a driver's license or ID card with a “customer number" you can enter on the application in order to use the online format.
  • If you have a customer number but don't want to enter it online, you can choose not to consent and use another means of voter registration (see below).
• You must have and enter a Social Security number.
  • Again, if you don't want to enter the number online, you can choose another registration option (see below).
• In Person or By Mail
  To register in person or by mail, complete the Voter Registration Application (Form VA-NVRA-1) and either deliver it in person or mail it to your local voter registration office.
  
  NOTE: You can download the form using the link above, or you can obtain one from the voter registration office.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

Apparently libs don't care about the subversion of democracy because you believe the illegals voted for Dems. This will provide powerful evidence for ID laws around the country. It is interesting that libs put party above country. Nice to know.

That shouldn't happen. You are right, 1800 is 1800 too many. But it seems a far cry from the claims some nutz made would you not agree? I am 100% for voter ID laws by the way (However voter ID laws won't stop a person with a valid ID, legal or not, from voting.)

It is funny how people, including me, get all bent out of shape for illegals registering to vote yet never say a word about gerrymandered congressional districts. Isn't that wrong too?

 

[WVPATX]

That shouldn't happen. You are right, 1800 is 1800 too many. But it seems a far cry from the claims some nutz made would you not agree? I am 100% for voter ID laws by the way (However voter ID laws won't stop a person with a valid ID, legal or not, from voting.)

It is funny how people, including me, get all bent out of shape for illegals registering to vote yet never say a word about gerrymandered congressional districts. Isn't that wrong too?

Gerrymandering, and both sides do it, is perfectly legal, As long as it passes Supreme Court muster. Voting while not being a citizen, he is highly illegal. These two are not comparable at all. Libs have told us over and over again that there is no illegal voting. They have now been proven wrong. We need voter ID laws to protect our citizens and their franchise at the ballot box.