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First was getting arrested at Kid Rock's Nashville bar and now this. Either he is trying to be an outlaw country star singing bro country songs or he is just plain dumb.

Dont forget him on social media making out with half of Alabama's sororities in the middle of a pandemic with his new baba mama at home. This guy was a megastar and all he had to be was not a world class idiot. He already overcame being just a huge idiot.

How long till he declares he will enter rehab? I know often enough that's a pr move, but this guy strikes me as someone who probably actually needs it.
 

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So having multiple #1's on the country chart doesn't pique your interest enough to check him out but him yelling the n-word does?
Well no apparently there’s no way to check him out since he’s been canceled from everything.
 

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yeah, this country bro sure as hell isn’t Jason Isabel.

speaking of, how good was DBT when they had Jason??? Damn good. Saw them several times at south gate house in Newport and at the dame in Lexington.
I like Isbell a lot but I think Morgan is a better singer. I like this version the best.

I used to work at a pawn shop back in the day and found a DBT cd one day and thought the name was cool so I took it home, threw it in, and thought "Where has this been my whole life?"
 
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I like Isbell a lot but I think Morgan is a better singer. I like this version the best.

I used to work at a pawn shop back in the day and found a DBT cd one day and thought the name was cool so I took it home, threw it in, and thought "Where has this been my whole life?"

yeah. No. Jason can hit notes this country bro would never dream of
 
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It’s hard to imagine how big of a ***** you have to be to think it’s fine for members of group A to use a word in basically every song and frequently in conversation, but then agree that if someone from group B utters the word regardless of context, the virgin ears of the members of group A won’t be able to handle it.

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True, he did. I'll say this, I don't think it's beneficial for anyone to say a word that is tied to such a dark part of our history. I know it's just a word but it carries quite a bit of anger, hatred and pain.

I've always felt the overuse of the term by the black community would be problematic but it also isn't my culture and I can't dictate how they should perceive behavior.

Saw an alleged quote by Keanu Reeves recently where he basically said hes at the age where arguing isn't worth it. "if you say 1+1 = 5, you're right, enjoy.". I'd like to be there one day with all of this stuff (politics, race, sports).

Good luck using that logic to explain to a kid why it’s wrong.
 

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True, he did. I'll say this, I don't think it's beneficial for anyone to say a word that is tied to such a dark part of our history. I know it's just a word but it carries quite a bit of anger, hatred and pain.

I've always felt the overuse of the term by the black community would be problematic but it also isn't my culture and I can't dictate how they should perceive behavior.

Saw an alleged quote by Keanu Reeves recently where he basically said hes at the age where arguing isn't worth it. "if you say 1+1 = 5, you're right, enjoy.". I'd like to be there one day with all of this stuff (politics, race, sports).
With people who are not going to change their minds, yes. But in this age of disinformation and, basically, “wrongthink,” it’s important to keep fighting the good fight.
 
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I’m not advocating for use of the word, I’m just blown away that any utterance of the word regardless of context is grounds for banishment from polite society, while at the same time it’s used heavily in pop culture. And at universities - once supposed to be a place for thought and discussion - you have instances of students freaking out when a professor says the word to discuss its impact. This is not adult behavior. It’s almost like religious heresy at this point.
 
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Wayne, while I haven't seen examples of professors getting reamed for reading Huck Finn out loud, I would agree that is silly. There is a place to identify why certain words have the connotation they do in educational settings, and reading Mark Twain or studying the Civil War or whatever are pretty valid reasons to examine the word.

Outside of the context of teaching history, I can't think of one good reason that a white person can't find another word to yell off their front porch or on the golf course or whatever. It doesn't matter, as a white person, if black artists say it or black kids say it to each other. White people, particularly American white people, don't need to be saying a word with connotations like this one. As an American white person I don't have any standing to say other cultures need to stop using it or not, but I know American history, and frankly so should every other white person in this country. It's just not that complicated. Don't say one gd word. (This also applies to words with the LGBT community or to handicapped folks. Those don't have racial elements, and there's some usage of slur words within those communities as a way to reclaim them. I don't 100% get that, but I'm not part of those communities so it's whatever to me.)

It's not cancel culture for a person to reap the extremely predictable consequences of their actions. Morgan Wallen, or the vast majority of other white dudes who have had to publicly apologize for dropping a bomb on video, weren't using it as an educational term. It was a pejorative or a slur. Period.
 
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Wayne, while I haven't seen examples of professors getting reamed for reading Huck Finn out loud, I would agree that is silly. There is a place to identify why certain words have the connotation they do in educational settings, and reading Mark Twain or studying the Civil War or whatever are pretty valid reasons to examine the word.

Outside of the context of teaching history, I can't think of one good reason that a white person can't find another word to yell off their front porch or on the golf course or whatever. It doesn't matter, as a white person, if black artists say it or black kids say it to each other. White people, particularly American white people, don't need to be saying a word with connotations like this one. As an American white person I don't have any standing to say other cultures need to stop using it or not, but I know American history, and frankly so should every other white person in this country. It's just not that complicated. Don't say one gd word. (This also applies to words with the LGBT community or to handicapped folks. Those don't have racial elements, and there's some usage of slur words within those communities as a way to reclaim them. I don't 100% get that, but I'm not part of those communities so it's whatever to me.)

It's not cancel culture for a person to reap the extremely predictable consequences of their actions. Morgan Wallen, or the vast majority of other white dudes who have had to publicly apologize for dropping a bomb on video, weren't using it as an educational term. It was a pejorative or a slur. Period.

I don't think anyone is saying he didn't have a terrible lapse in judgement and say a word that just can't be said. I think my issue is that nobody wants to have any forgiveness for anything and wants to crush anyone who makes a mistake. When you pass judgement on someone else and want to destroy their life don't be shocked when Karma comes knocking on your door because I can promise you aren't a perfect person either. You may not say that word but you have said or done something that will come back to haunt you at some point in your life.
 
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Wayne, while I haven't seen examples of professors getting reamed for reading Huck Finn out loud, I would agree that is silly. There is a place to identify why certain words have the connotation they do in educational settings, and reading Mark Twain or studying the Civil War or whatever are pretty valid reasons to examine the word.

Outside of the context of teaching history, I can't think of one good reason that a white person can't find another word to yell off their front porch or on the golf course or whatever. It doesn't matter, as a white person, if black artists say it or black kids say it to each other. White people, particularly American white people, don't need to be saying a word with connotations like this one. As an American white person I don't have any standing to say other cultures need to stop using it or not, but I know American history, and frankly so should every other white person in this country. It's just not that complicated. Don't say one gd word. (This also applies to words with the LGBT community or to handicapped folks. Those don't have racial elements, and there's some usage of slur words within those communities as a way to reclaim them. I don't 100% get that, but I'm not part of those communities so it's whatever to me.)

It's not cancel culture for a person to reap the extremely predictable consequences of their actions. Morgan Wallen, or the vast majority of other white dudes who have had to publicly apologize for dropping a bomb on video, weren't using it as an educational term. It was a pejorative or a slur. Period.

In the model world, this is all fine and dandy. But we don't live in that world...never have, never will. Instances like Wallen's will happen sooner than later, regardless of their beliefs in regards to race >>> you can be a racist pig, or made out of cream cheese, but both will have used slurs, or thought of them, at some point.

Wayne's comment: I’m not advocating for use of the word, I’m just blown away that any utterance of the word regardless of context is grounds for banishment from polite society is spot on. It is amazing how quick we pull the holier than thou card these days, as well as cast the first stones. Forgiveness and accountability is out the window....instead, you are eternally labeled.
 
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I’m not advocating for use of the word, I’m just blown away that any utterance of the word regardless of context is grounds for banishment from polite society, while at the same time it’s used heavily in pop culture. And at universities - once supposed to be a place for thought and discussion - you have instances of students freaking out when a professor says the word to discuss its impact. This is not adult behavior. It’s almost like religious heresy at this point.

This is where persepctive matters. Ar
In the model world, this is all fine and dandy. But we don't live in that world...never have, never will. Instances like Wallen's will happen sooner than later, regardless of their beliefs in regards to race >>> you can be a racist pig, or made out of cream cheese, but both will have used slurs, or thought of them, at some point.

Wayne's comment: I’m not advocating for use of the word, I’m just blown away that any utterance of the word regardless of context is grounds for banishment from polite society is spot on. It is amazing how quick we pull the holier than thou card these days, as well as cast the first stones. Forgiveness and accountability is out the window....instead, you are eternally labeled.

This isn't complicated. If you think it's ok to use the "n" word in that kind of a social setting in 2021, you're dumbass and EVERY punishment you get is 100% your fault. If you debate that, you've got some problems too.

"what about ism" at it's worst.
 
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Oh, I don't have any issue with forgiveness when a person shows genuine contrition. Forgiveness doesn't mean that a person doesn't face consequences even if they are demonstrably sorry and make a turn away from the behavior that got them called out. It's also not necessarily an immediate process. Forgiveness, and change, take time, and both of those are really difficult to see when the world moves at breakneck speed.

ESPECIALLY if you're in the spotlight... you have to watch yourself. Not just with words.
 

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This isn't complicated. If you think it's ok to use the "n" word in that kind of a social setting in 2021, you're dumbass and EVERY punishment you get is 100% your fault. If you debate that, you've got some problems too.

Uh...no one said that. No one even suggested that.

Sheesh.
 

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Don't condone him using the word, and i also never use it. BUT....... just imagine coming home and talking about work with your friends or wife, and you start talking about what an *** your boss is. Meanwhile your creepy neighbor is watching you and recording you, and they then send that video to your boss. Then you get fired. That's my complaint that I have on the whole ordeal.
 
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Uh...no one said that. No one even suggested that.

Sheesh.

Really?

Forget what you wrote?

Wayne's comment: I’m not advocating for use of the word, I’m just blown away that any utterance of the word regardless of context is grounds for banishment from polite society is spot on. It is amazing how quick we pull the holier than thou card these days, as well as cast the first stones. Forgiveness and accountability is out the window....instead, you are eternally labeled.
 
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Don't condone him using the word, and i also never use it. BUT....... just imagine coming home and talking about work with your friends or wife, and you start talking about what an *** your boss is. Meanwhile your creepy neighbor is watching you and recording you, and they then send that video to your boss. Then you get fired. That's my complaint that I have on the whole ordeal.

You're mad he got caught... Interesting.
 

cole854

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Really?

Forget what you wrote?

Wayne's comment: I’m not advocating for use of the word, I’m just blown away that any utterance of the word regardless of context is grounds for banishment from polite society is spot on. It is amazing how quick we pull the holier than thou card these days, as well as cast the first stones. Forgiveness and accountability is out the window....instead, you are eternally labeled.

What part of I’m not advocating for use of the word do you not understand?
 
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Don't act like you wouldn't be pissed if a neighbor did something like that to you personally. If not then you're the biggest pushover ***** walking.

no, if I got caught saying a racial slur I wouldn’t be blaming the person who caught me. Price of being a celebrity. No sympathy whatsoever.
 

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no, if I got caught saying a racial slur I wouldn’t be blaming the person who caught me. Price of being a celebrity. No sympathy whatsoever.


I see, you're good at hiding your racial slurs. It's ok if you just don't get caught? See I can take your point and twist it also. If you read my post closely, it had nothing to do with anything racial, just the fact that he apparently has a piece of **** neighbor.
 

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This dude will be back at some point. Hulk Hogan used that word in a conversation he didn't know was taped and was shunned for a couple years, then began making appearances again. Wallen does seem like an immature dumbass though. I just don't get the "well black people use the word too, so why aren't they punished the same as white people???" argument. I mean, it's 2021 and that's the hill you choose to die on?
 

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Saw an alleged quote by Keanu Reeves recently where he basically said hes at the age where arguing isn't worth it. "if you say 1+1 = 5, you're right, enjoy.". I'd like to be there one day with all of this stuff (politics, race, sports).

Im 1000% there and it’s great. I mean every now and then I’ll get after it with UK sports but serious stuff I don’t really care to argue. Part of the reason of that is because deep down inside I believe people are coming from a good place and they just have a different perspective, and therefore it doesn’t mean they are a bad person if they disagree so the concept of arguing with them loses all motivation. For example with regards to abortion, I feel the people that are intensely against it truly view it as murdering a baby and those intensely for it don’t view it as murder but actual govt over-reach and control, I can see both sides so therefore I see no point arguing with someone that’s coming from a good place.

Alright folks, that should give you guys another 5 pages to “discuss”, enjoy!
 
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I see, you're good at hiding your racial slurs. It's ok if you just don't get caught? See I can take your point and twist it also. If you read my post closely, it had nothing to do with anything racial, just the fact that he apparently has a piece of **** neighbor.

Eek... you think you’re smart. Bless your heart. blaming the person who caught you is weak ****. I don’t use the slur. I’m not a knuckle dragger.
 
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I watched the video of this little dude. If the woke crowd should be mad at anything it’s cultural appropriation. He comes off as either being extremely ignorant or trying to sound like a urban youth. Not a “I’m trying to put someone down by calling them a slur or I hate black people” way. He sounds like those middle class white kids back in high school who sagged their pants and talked with slang to sound like rappers. He’a guilty of being an idiot, not a racist.
 

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His music is awful so while I hate cancel culture, this may be a net gain. Likr having Thom Brenneman removed from Reds games.
 

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I watched the video of this little dude. If the woke crowd should be mad at anything it’s cultural appropriation. He comes off as either being extremely ignorant or trying to sound like a urban youth. Not a “I’m trying to put someone down by calling them a slur or I hate black people” way. He sounds like those middle class white kids back in high school who sagged their pants and talked with slang to sound like rappers. He’a guilty of being an idiot, not a racist.
If Darwinism works, idiots shouldn’t survive. The only problem is there’s enough idiots driving around in 4x4’s with truck nuts, gun racks, and rebel flags that he’ll still have a chance to make a go of it.