Morris Parents post from Facebook if I can do it correctly

[Kevin JCHS 1981]

Morris Parents post from Facebook if I can do it correctly. I had to cut and paste.

Jackie Lorenz

I posted this on a couple of the Morris pages, because I felt it needed to be said - who knows if it will be approved- who knows if it will ever reach the intended audience.
Either way, I’m not one to post anonymously or hide behind a keyboard- I stand 10 toes down and if I take the time to share feelings, then trust, I mean it to the depths of my soul.
I’ll just leave this right here publically- it’s long- but I hope somehow it resonates, and we can continue to pack the stands with the right type of energy, to take us all the way!! Xo, J
Good morning, and what a night our community had!I’m still buzzing from the incredible victory our boys pulled off against Geneseo. The excitement, the pride, the energy in that stadium… unforgettable. But alongside all that joy, I witnessed something that I feel deeply compelled to address- something I hope reaches whoever needs to hear it, so we can show up even better in the games ahead.
Hear. Me. Out.
Yesterday’s stands were packed. The crowd was electric. The nerves, the anticipation- you could feel it in your bones. There were moments where you could have heard a pin drop, and moments where the roar was so loud your ears rang for minutes afterwards. High school football… there is truly nothing in the world like it.
Early in the game, after a rocky start, Geneseo scored. Then, moving into the second quarter, we had an interception. As a mom, my heart immediately went out to our boys- the quarterback, the receiver, the linemen. My instinct was to lift them up, to push the positive energy right back onto that field.
But then, from behind us, came the loudest heckling I’ve ever heard. And to my surprise, it wasn’t directed at the refs, the opposing team, or even a questionable call. It was aimed directly at our head coach.
In a matter of seconds, someone I assumed was with us- part of our community, our support, our pride- turned and spewed the nastiest, most rattling remarks down onto the field. Criticizing the coach, the staff, the play call, the interception- anything he could throw, he threw. The tension around us shifted. For a brief moment, the stands felt disconnected, heavy. And I even had the fleeting thought, “Oh no… what if Geneseo wins?” Looking back, I know that was the negativity pouring down from that one voice.
But, unfortunately, that wasn’t even the worst part.
After several minutes of complaints, rants, and yelling, curiosity got the best of me. I turned to see who this heckler was - praying it wasn’t someone I knew. (And thankfully, it wasn’t.)
But who I did see sitting directly in front of him absolutely shattered me.
Our head coach’s wife.
Supported by her best friend.
Our head coach’s daughter.
Supported by her best friends.
The parents of another offensive coach.
I saw the faces of our community- people who, through their strength and unity, chose to rise above. People who walked past him at halftime with poise and dignity, even though his words were a direct hit to OUR TEAM, from OUR STANDS, in OUR MOMENT OF WEAKNESS.
This team has poured endless hours into this season to get where we are right now, here in November. I see our coaches leave team dinner the night before games, hear them talk about the film they studied late into the night, watch nerves settle as they share a meal and the camaraderie of a staff that gives 100% of themselves. They sacrifice time with their families, personal plans, and sleep to show up for our boys during the most memorable years of their lives.
Last night I asked my son at home, “When things get tough, when the other team makes a big play or you guys fall behind- does the team feel that? Does it get heavy?” He looked at me like I had three heads.
“Hell no! We got this. We always bounce back. If defense doesn’t have it, offense has it. We’re tuned in to each other.”
My heart nearly exploded. What a group of young men- coached to be mentally strong, resilient, and unified.
Then I asked nervously, “Um, can you hear the crowd when people yell negative stuff?”
Another eye roll.
“Yeah. All the time. They don’t know what they’re talking about. We laugh at it. It doesn’t bother us, because what they’re yelling is wrong half the time. They’re wannabes- they could never do what we do, or what our coaches do.” Period.
How embarrassing, how silly, how inappropriate, how dare you! If this team is unshook and has unwaivering faith, especially when the going gets tough, what gives anyone the right, (from our stands, mind you) to attempt to rattle that with their unjust opinions?
So I come here to say… As we continue on this road- if you find yourself in the Maroon stands, remember this. You are surrounded by REAL fans. Fans who believe in this team with everything they’ve got.
Let this be a reminder: this is not an NFL stadium. This is not a place where your negativity disappears into a sea of 70,000 strangers. Here, you sit shoulder-to-shoulder with mothers, daughters, wives, fathers, best friends, brothers, fiancées, grandparents. We are one. We stand behind this team. Your words echo. They hit. They matter.
So respectfully: If you feel the urge to heckle… to criticize… to pour negativity onto those sidelines…
Shut your mouth.
Get your *** up.
Move yourself to the other side of the field- where people don’t know the blood, sweat, grit, and family that has been built on the fields of 1000 Union St.
Do not come for our sons, husbands, dads, grandsons, nephews, or friends.
Let’s go, Morris. Montini doesn’t know what’s coming- and we’re coming full speed.

 

[TigerforFlyers]

Morris Parents post from Facebook if I can do it correctly. I had to cut and paste.

Jackie Lorenz

I posted this on a couple of the Morris pages, because I felt it needed to be said - who knows if it will be approved- who knows if it will ever reach the intended audience.
Either way, I’m not one to post anonymously or hide behind a keyboard- I stand 10 toes down and if I take the time to share feelings, then trust, I mean it to the depths of my soul.
I’ll just leave this right here publically- it’s long- but I hope somehow it resonates, and we can continue to pack the stands with the right type of energy, to take us all the way!! Xo, J
Good morning, and what a night our community had!I’m still buzzing from the incredible victory our boys pulled off against Geneseo. The excitement, the pride, the energy in that stadium… unforgettable. But alongside all that joy, I witnessed something that I feel deeply compelled to address- something I hope reaches whoever needs to hear it, so we can show up even better in the games ahead.
Hear. Me. Out.
Yesterday’s stands were packed. The crowd was electric. The nerves, the anticipation- you could feel it in your bones. There were moments where you could have heard a pin drop, and moments where the roar was so loud your ears rang for minutes afterwards. High school football… there is truly nothing in the world like it.
Early in the game, after a rocky start, Geneseo scored. Then, moving into the second quarter, we had an interception. As a mom, my heart immediately went out to our boys- the quarterback, the receiver, the linemen. My instinct was to lift them up, to push the positive energy right back onto that field.
But then, from behind us, came the loudest heckling I’ve ever heard. And to my surprise, it wasn’t directed at the refs, the opposing team, or even a questionable call. It was aimed directly at our head coach.
In a matter of seconds, someone I assumed was with us- part of our community, our support, our pride- turned and spewed the nastiest, most rattling remarks down onto the field. Criticizing the coach, the staff, the play call, the interception- anything he could throw, he threw. The tension around us shifted. For a brief moment, the stands felt disconnected, heavy. And I even had the fleeting thought, “Oh no… what if Geneseo wins?” Looking back, I know that was the negativity pouring down from that one voice.
But, unfortunately, that wasn’t even the worst part.
After several minutes of complaints, rants, and yelling, curiosity got the best of me. I turned to see who this heckler was - praying it wasn’t someone I knew. (And thankfully, it wasn’t.)
But who I did see sitting directly in front of him absolutely shattered me.
Our head coach’s wife.
Supported by her best friend.
Our head coach’s daughter.
Supported by her best friends.
The parents of another offensive coach.
I saw the faces of our community- people who, through their strength and unity, chose to rise above. People who walked past him at halftime with poise and dignity, even though his words were a direct hit to OUR TEAM, from OUR STANDS, in OUR MOMENT OF WEAKNESS.
This team has poured endless hours into this season to get where we are right now, here in November. I see our coaches leave team dinner the night before games, hear them talk about the film they studied late into the night, watch nerves settle as they share a meal and the camaraderie of a staff that gives 100% of themselves. They sacrifice time with their families, personal plans, and sleep to show up for our boys during the most memorable years of their lives.
Last night I asked my son at home, “When things get tough, when the other team makes a big play or you guys fall behind- does the team feel that? Does it get heavy?” He looked at me like I had three heads.
“Hell no! We got this. We always bounce back. If defense doesn’t have it, offense has it. We’re tuned in to each other.”
My heart nearly exploded. What a group of young men- coached to be mentally strong, resilient, and unified.
Then I asked nervously, “Um, can you hear the crowd when people yell negative stuff?”
Another eye roll.
“Yeah. All the time. They don’t know what they’re talking about. We laugh at it. It doesn’t bother us, because what they’re yelling is wrong half the time. They’re wannabes- they could never do what we do, or what our coaches do.” Period.
How embarrassing, how silly, how inappropriate, how dare you! If this team is unshook and has unwaivering faith, especially when the going gets tough, what gives anyone the right, (from our stands, mind you) to attempt to rattle that with their unjust opinions?
So I come here to say… As we continue on this road- if you find yourself in the Maroon stands, remember this. You are surrounded by REAL fans. Fans who believe in this team with everything they’ve got.
Let this be a reminder: this is not an NFL stadium. This is not a place where your negativity disappears into a sea of 70,000 strangers. Here, you sit shoulder-to-shoulder with mothers, daughters, wives, fathers, best friends, brothers, fiancées, grandparents. We are one. We stand behind this team. Your words echo. They hit. They matter.
So respectfully: If you feel the urge to heckle… to criticize… to pour negativity onto those sidelines…
Shut your mouth.
Get your *** up.
Move yourself to the other side of the field- where people don’t know the blood, sweat, grit, and family that has been built on the fields of 1000 Union St.
Do not come for our sons, husbands, dads, grandsons, nephews, or friends.
Let’s go, Morris. Montini doesn’t know what’s coming- and we’re coming full speed.

It tends to happen in the stands everywhere. This lady addressed it well. Especially bringing in the perspective of the players. Good job, Lady!!

 

[Anon1753850091]

Morris Parents post from Facebook if I can do it correctly. I had to cut and paste.

Jackie Lorenz

I posted this on a couple of the Morris pages, because I felt it needed to be said - who knows if it will be approved- who knows if it will ever reach the intended audience.
Either way, I’m not one to post anonymously or hide behind a keyboard- I stand 10 toes down and if I take the time to share feelings, then trust, I mean it to the depths of my soul.
I’ll just leave this right here publically- it’s long- but I hope somehow it resonates, and we can continue to pack the stands with the right type of energy, to take us all the way!! Xo, J
Good morning, and what a night our community had!I’m still buzzing from the incredible victory our boys pulled off against Geneseo. The excitement, the pride, the energy in that stadium… unforgettable. But alongside all that joy, I witnessed something that I feel deeply compelled to address- something I hope reaches whoever needs to hear it, so we can show up even better in the games ahead.
Hear. Me. Out.
Yesterday’s stands were packed. The crowd was electric. The nerves, the anticipation- you could feel it in your bones. There were moments where you could have heard a pin drop, and moments where the roar was so loud your ears rang for minutes afterwards. High school football… there is truly nothing in the world like it.
Early in the game, after a rocky start, Geneseo scored. Then, moving into the second quarter, we had an interception. As a mom, my heart immediately went out to our boys- the quarterback, the receiver, the linemen. My instinct was to lift them up, to push the positive energy right back onto that field.
But then, from behind us, came the loudest heckling I’ve ever heard. And to my surprise, it wasn’t directed at the refs, the opposing team, or even a questionable call. It was aimed directly at our head coach.
In a matter of seconds, someone I assumed was with us- part of our community, our support, our pride- turned and spewed the nastiest, most rattling remarks down onto the field. Criticizing the coach, the staff, the play call, the interception- anything he could throw, he threw. The tension around us shifted. For a brief moment, the stands felt disconnected, heavy. And I even had the fleeting thought, “Oh no… what if Geneseo wins?” Looking back, I know that was the negativity pouring down from that one voice.
But, unfortunately, that wasn’t even the worst part.
After several minutes of complaints, rants, and yelling, curiosity got the best of me. I turned to see who this heckler was - praying it wasn’t someone I knew. (And thankfully, it wasn’t.)
But who I did see sitting directly in front of him absolutely shattered me.
Our head coach’s wife.
Supported by her best friend.
Our head coach’s daughter.
Supported by her best friends.
The parents of another offensive coach.
I saw the faces of our community- people who, through their strength and unity, chose to rise above. People who walked past him at halftime with poise and dignity, even though his words were a direct hit to OUR TEAM, from OUR STANDS, in OUR MOMENT OF WEAKNESS.
This team has poured endless hours into this season to get where we are right now, here in November. I see our coaches leave team dinner the night before games, hear them talk about the film they studied late into the night, watch nerves settle as they share a meal and the camaraderie of a staff that gives 100% of themselves. They sacrifice time with their families, personal plans, and sleep to show up for our boys during the most memorable years of their lives.
Last night I asked my son at home, “When things get tough, when the other team makes a big play or you guys fall behind- does the team feel that? Does it get heavy?” He looked at me like I had three heads.
“Hell no! We got this. We always bounce back. If defense doesn’t have it, offense has it. We’re tuned in to each other.”
My heart nearly exploded. What a group of young men- coached to be mentally strong, resilient, and unified.
Then I asked nervously, “Um, can you hear the crowd when people yell negative stuff?”
Another eye roll.
“Yeah. All the time. They don’t know what they’re talking about. We laugh at it. It doesn’t bother us, because what they’re yelling is wrong half the time. They’re wannabes- they could never do what we do, or what our coaches do.” Period.
How embarrassing, how silly, how inappropriate, how dare you! If this team is unshook and has unwaivering faith, especially when the going gets tough, what gives anyone the right, (from our stands, mind you) to attempt to rattle that with their unjust opinions?
So I come here to say… As we continue on this road- if you find yourself in the Maroon stands, remember this. You are surrounded by REAL fans. Fans who believe in this team with everything they’ve got.
Let this be a reminder: this is not an NFL stadium. This is not a place where your negativity disappears into a sea of 70,000 strangers. Here, you sit shoulder-to-shoulder with mothers, daughters, wives, fathers, best friends, brothers, fiancées, grandparents. We are one. We stand behind this team. Your words echo. They hit. They matter.
So respectfully: If you feel the urge to heckle… to criticize… to pour negativity onto those sidelines…
Shut your mouth.
Get your *** up.
Move yourself to the other side of the field- where people don’t know the blood, sweat, grit, and family that has been built on the fields of 1000 Union St.
Do not come for our sons, husbands, dads, grandsons, nephews, or friends.
Let’s go, Morris. Montini doesn’t know what’s coming- and we’re coming full speed.

Someone might want to tell that mom to prepare for a rough Saturday next week. Montini vs. Morris will not be a pretty matchup. Morris will have to play well to keep within 3-4 scores.

I also saw some Morris social media users bent out of shape from signs in Geneseo saying "Beat the Capital Maroon M's" making fun of Morris' lack of a nickname. Seemed crazy that someone was bothered by a fairly gentle prodding from the opponent.

But yes, I certainly agree that HS hecklers can get well out of hand and I am sure this guy in the stands from the original post was a prime example of that.

 

[4Afan]

Morris Parents post from Facebook if I can do it correctly. I had to cut and paste.

Jackie Lorenz

I posted this on a couple of the Morris pages, because I felt it needed to be said - who knows if it will be approved- who knows if it will ever reach the intended audience.
Either way, I’m not one to post anonymously or hide behind a keyboard- I stand 10 toes down and if I take the time to share feelings, then trust, I mean it to the depths of my soul.
I’ll just leave this right here publically- it’s long- but I hope somehow it resonates, and we can continue to pack the stands with the right type of energy, to take us all the way!! Xo, J
Good morning, and what a night our community had!I’m still buzzing from the incredible victory our boys pulled off against Geneseo. The excitement, the pride, the energy in that stadium… unforgettable. But alongside all that joy, I witnessed something that I feel deeply compelled to address- something I hope reaches whoever needs to hear it, so we can show up even better in the games ahead.
Hear. Me. Out.
Yesterday’s stands were packed. The crowd was electric. The nerves, the anticipation- you could feel it in your bones. There were moments where you could have heard a pin drop, and moments where the roar was so loud your ears rang for minutes afterwards. High school football… there is truly nothing in the world like it.
Early in the game, after a rocky start, Geneseo scored. Then, moving into the second quarter, we had an interception. As a mom, my heart immediately went out to our boys- the quarterback, the receiver, the linemen. My instinct was to lift them up, to push the positive energy right back onto that field.
But then, from behind us, came the loudest heckling I’ve ever heard. And to my surprise, it wasn’t directed at the refs, the opposing team, or even a questionable call. It was aimed directly at our head coach.
In a matter of seconds, someone I assumed was with us- part of our community, our support, our pride- turned and spewed the nastiest, most rattling remarks down onto the field. Criticizing the coach, the staff, the play call, the interception- anything he could throw, he threw. The tension around us shifted. For a brief moment, the stands felt disconnected, heavy. And I even had the fleeting thought, “Oh no… what if Geneseo wins?” Looking back, I know that was the negativity pouring down from that one voice.
But, unfortunately, that wasn’t even the worst part.
After several minutes of complaints, rants, and yelling, curiosity got the best of me. I turned to see who this heckler was - praying it wasn’t someone I knew. (And thankfully, it wasn’t.)
But who I did see sitting directly in front of him absolutely shattered me.
Our head coach’s wife.
Supported by her best friend.
Our head coach’s daughter.
Supported by her best friends.
The parents of another offensive coach.
I saw the faces of our community- people who, through their strength and unity, chose to rise above. People who walked past him at halftime with poise and dignity, even though his words were a direct hit to OUR TEAM, from OUR STANDS, in OUR MOMENT OF WEAKNESS.
This team has poured endless hours into this season to get where we are right now, here in November. I see our coaches leave team dinner the night before games, hear them talk about the film they studied late into the night, watch nerves settle as they share a meal and the camaraderie of a staff that gives 100% of themselves. They sacrifice time with their families, personal plans, and sleep to show up for our boys during the most memorable years of their lives.
Last night I asked my son at home, “When things get tough, when the other team makes a big play or you guys fall behind- does the team feel that? Does it get heavy?” He looked at me like I had three heads.
“Hell no! We got this. We always bounce back. If defense doesn’t have it, offense has it. We’re tuned in to each other.”
My heart nearly exploded. What a group of young men- coached to be mentally strong, resilient, and unified.
Then I asked nervously, “Um, can you hear the crowd when people yell negative stuff?”
Another eye roll.
“Yeah. All the time. They don’t know what they’re talking about. We laugh at it. It doesn’t bother us, because what they’re yelling is wrong half the time. They’re wannabes- they could never do what we do, or what our coaches do.” Period.
How embarrassing, how silly, how inappropriate, how dare you! If this team is unshook and has unwaivering faith, especially when the going gets tough, what gives anyone the right, (from our stands, mind you) to attempt to rattle that with their unjust opinions?
So I come here to say… As we continue on this road- if you find yourself in the Maroon stands, remember this. You are surrounded by REAL fans. Fans who believe in this team with everything they’ve got.
Let this be a reminder: this is not an NFL stadium. This is not a place where your negativity disappears into a sea of 70,000 strangers. Here, you sit shoulder-to-shoulder with mothers, daughters, wives, fathers, best friends, brothers, fiancées, grandparents. We are one. We stand behind this team. Your words echo. They hit. They matter.
So respectfully: If you feel the urge to heckle… to criticize… to pour negativity onto those sidelines…
Shut your mouth.
Get your *** up.
Move yourself to the other side of the field- where people don’t know the blood, sweat, grit, and family that has been built on the fields of 1000 Union St.
Do not come for our sons, husbands, dads, grandsons, nephews, or friends.
Let’s go, Morris. Montini doesn’t know what’s coming- and we’re coming full speed.

I was at home so I have an alibi that it wasn't me yelling.

 

[MS4EVER]

There are losers everywhere that feel the need to criticize the coaches.

 

[IHSAfan207]

I have mixed feelings on this one. If no degrading words were used and not directed at the kids, I believe coaches are fair game for criticism. If anything they get a 10 year job window with little to no accountability, not like they have press to answer to.
Obviously this lady was over emotional and never played at high level sport, you never hear the crowd.
If anyone knows her tell not to worry so much it will be over quick with Montini .

 

[SilverHelmet]

I have mixed feelings on this one. If no degrading words were used and not directed at the kids, I believe coaches are fair game for criticism. If anything they get a 10 year job window with little to no accountability, not like they have press to answer to.
Obviously this lady was over emotional and never played at high level sport, you never hear the crowd.
If anyone knows her tell not to worry so much it will be over quick with Montini .

High school coaches are not fair game to publicly berate at the stadium. They are educators that coach primarily for the love of the game. Would you let them come to your job and second guess you all day?
College and NFL coaches are a different story. Those guys are doing as a profession and it comes the trade off of getting paid handsomely.

 

[Carmine Evergreen]

I have mixed feelings on this one. If no degrading words were used and not directed at the kids, I believe coaches are fair game for criticism. If anything they get a 10 year job window with little to no accountability, not like they have press to answer to.
Obviously this lady was over emotional and never played at high level sport, you never hear the crowd.
If anyone knows her tell not to worry so much it will be over quick with Montini .

Congrats! This is the worst post I've read all year! Wrong on so many levels. Go away!

 

[IHSAfan207]

Congrats! This is the worst post I've read all year! Wrong on so many levels. Go away!

Lol, I'm here to stay. Think I just found the leader of everyone gets a trophy! Oh by the way you criticized me in this post, shame on you.

 

[IHSAfan207]

High school coaches are not fair game to publicly berate at the stadium. They are educators that coach primarily for the love of the game. Would you let them come to your job and second guess you all day?
College and NFL coaches are a different story. Those guys are doing as a profession and it comes the trade off of getting paid handsomely.

I understand what you are trying to say but I disagree. I know plenty of coaches who are not educators and would never want a pity party over some criticism more so if it was warranted. By the way I said criticism not berate big difference, if they can't handle some criticism they should find something else to do. They choose to do this and get paid, criticism should not only be expected but should be welcomed. It only teaches the kids how not to run and hide from some criticism but to embrace it, learn from it, and grow.

Absolutely, if you can't take some constructive criticism my company wouldn't be the place for you.

I agree berating is not it, and not what I was saying at all. But if a coach goes for it on 4th and 10 and runs a 21 dive and gets stopped but someone says why are you going for it out loud or even to the person next to them they should be banned? Hmm awfully soft, but I guess thats the norm these days. And yes that is criticism, I didn't say scream or yell, but by your logic just saying that you should be kick out of the stadium.

Either way we will agree to disagree on this, I think criticism can be good and not something to hide from. But seems like most think just because you are a coach you get a free pass.

 

[Wassup13]

I dont like criticizing coaches. It's just wrong on all levels. I really dont care what people say when I am at the games. I just ignore them. If they want to do or say stupid things then it's just a reflection of themselves. They should just make positive comments with the students around.

As for Morris, throughout their history they have done well and I am looking at the Morris vs Montini matchup as a close game.

Usually when I discuss Morris all I want to talk about the legend himself, Dergo.

 

[PowerI66]

I understand what you are trying to say but I disagree. I know plenty of coaches who are not educators and would never want a pity party over some criticism more so if it was warranted. By the way I said criticism not berate big difference, if they can't handle some criticism they should find something else to do. They choose to do this and get paid, criticism should not only be expected but should be welcomed. It only teaches the kids how not to run and hide from some criticism but to embrace it, learn from it, and grow.

Absolutely, if you can't take some constructive criticism my company wouldn't be the place for you.

I agree berating is not it, and not what I was saying at all. But if a coach goes for it on 4th and 10 and runs a 21 dive and gets stopped but someone says why are you going for it out loud or even to the person next to them they should be banned? Hmm awfully soft, but I guess thats the norm these days. And yes that is criticism, I didn't say scream or yell, but by your logic just saying that you should be kick out of the stadium.

Either way we will agree to disagree on this, I think criticism can be good and not something to hide from. But seems like most think just because you are a coach you get a free pass.

Just so you are aware, I'll be generous and say most, public school coaches are paid a less than minimum wage stipend to coach.

 

[IHSAfan207]

Just so you are aware, I'll be generous and say most, public school coaches are paid a less than minimum wage stipend to coach.

Yeah unfortunately I know how much they get paid, private pay is usually even worse. All do it for love of the game. But I would counter with is there a certain price you are allowed to criticize a coach? To me the line is pay or no pay.
But I can tell I am in minority who thinks criticism is not something we need to hide from, I wouldn't condone berating but I would never hide from criticism. Unfortunately I know a lot of coaches who will never change their ways and some who are never wrong, lol.
Either way as I started my post that I have mixed feelings on it. On hand I would never berate but on the other hand I know how much constructive criticism can help a team grow and get better. But I will bow out peacefully, and concede no criticism is allowed.

 

[IHSAfan207]

I dont like criticizing coaches. It's just wrong on all levels. I really dont care what people say when I am at the games. I just ignore them. If they want to do or say stupid things then it's just a reflection of themselves. They should just make positive comments with the students around.

As for Morris, throughout their history they have done well and I am looking at the Morris vs Montini matchup as a close game.

Usually when I discuss Morris all I want to talk about the legend himself, Dergo.

Man I can't wait for the next post about Thor at Antioch , that poor poster who criticizes him is going to get buried.

 

[Wassup13]

Man I can't wait for the next post about Thor at Antioch , that poor poster who criticizes him is going to get buried.

Ok. Just so you know I was talking about being at the games and not about IHSA policies. Although I really never discuss either in these forums or at games.

 

[jha618]

Yeah unfortunately I know how much they get paid, private pay is usually even worse. All do it for love of the game. But I would counter with is there a certain price you are allowed to criticize a coach? To me the line is pay or no pay.
But I can tell I am in minority who thinks criticism is not something we need to hide from, I wouldn't condone berating but I would never hide from criticism. Unfortunately I know a lot of coaches who will never change their ways and some who are never wrong, lol.
Either way as I started my post that I have mixed feelings on it. On hand I would never berate but on the other hand I know how much constructive criticism can help a team grow and get better. But I will bow out peacefully, and concede no criticism is allowed.

I'm sort of confused as to what you are saying you are ok with seeing. Earlier you said most players and coaches don't hear the yelling from the crowd. So why advocate or support ppl yelling from the crowd? How is that helpful or constructive if they doesn't hear it? Even if they do, you think coaches are taking game plan advice from random Joe Parent in the stands?

 

[IHSAfan207]

Ok. Just so you know I was talking about being at the games and not about IHSA policies. Although I really never discuss either in these forums or at games.

The consensus here is no criticism of coaches, I believe it was said "wrong on all levels". Now hopefully this sentiment carries over to refs also. That pay is even worse for them. And I guess this would include NFL refs since that is also not their full time job?

My whole point in all of this is that criticism if done correctly is not the worst thing in the world. And my line is if you get paid for job (no matter how much) you should be open to criticism if done correctly.

 

[IHSAfan207]

I'm sort of confused as to what you are saying you are ok with seeing. Earlier you said most players and coaches don't hear the yelling from the crowd. So why advocate or support ppl yelling from the crowd? How is that helpful or constructive if they doesn't hear it? Even if they do, you think coaches are taking game plan advice from random Joe Parent in the stands?

Sorry I guess that was confusing, I was referring to the post of the lady asking her son if he was bothered byball that, highlighing she was just over emotional prob over nothing. I was just pointing out when I played or coached I never heard the crowd. And parents always ***** and moan, it never bothered us. Our inside joke as a staff was the best place to coach is a orphanage

 

[TigerforFlyers]

I agree berating is not it, and not what I was saying at all. But if a coach goes for it on 4th and 10 and runs a 21 dive and gets stopped but someone says why are you going for it out loud or even to the person next to them they should be banned? Hmm awfully soft, but I guess thats the norm these days. And yes that is criticism, I didn't say scream or yell, but by your logic just saying that you should be kick out of the stadium.

Taking things out of context, huh? The post from the lady specifically said that the guy was yelling. Here you go spinning it to fit the context of a different discussion.

 

[IHSAfan207]

Taking things out of context, huh? The post from the lady specifically said that the guy was yelling. Here you go spinning it to fit the context of a different discussion.

I wasn't there so I have no idea. But I was defending criticism as a whole in a different context based on the sentiment that all critism of coaches is bad. Maybe I should of started another post, but I read her post with the underline theme was about criticism of coaches. I started off stating I have mixed emotions since it's not a linear line, berating (as that guy was described) is not something I would tolerate or defend. Sorry if you think I was spinning it to fit my context, was not my intention.

 

[PowerI66]

The consensus here is no criticism of coaches, I believe it was said "wrong on all levels". Now hopefully this sentiment carries over to refs also. That pay is even worse for them. And I guess this would include NFL refs since that is also not their full time job?

My whole point in all of this is that criticism if done correctly is not the worst thing in the world. And my line is if you get paid for job (no matter how much) you should be open to criticism if done correctly.

Refs make much better pay per hour

 

[IHSAfan207]

Refs make much better pay per hour

Good point. You are correct, I was thinking on week basis when I posted.

 

[IHSAfan207]

Contrary to popular belief I do appreciate the banter, even though I am in the minority on this topic. I won't shy away, but also don't mind admitting when I am wrong on something. Thanks for the debate.

I'm gonna tap out on this post as I won't be changing any minds and more importantly before my wife throws a wooden spoon at me for being on my phone so much!

 

[CSLfan]

Contrary to popular belief I do appreciate the banter, even though I am in the minority on this topic. I won't shy away, but also don't mind admitting when I am wrong on something. Thanks for the debate.

I'm gonna tap out on this post as I won't be changing any minds and more importantly before my wife throws a wooden spoon at me for being on my phone so much!

I respect your right to tap out, but if you read one more post, the original facebook poster wasn't even talking about not criticizing the coach for the sake of the coach. She was more concerned about his wife and daughter in the stands. And I think that is more valid than you are giving credit for. Coaches are public figures in most towns, arguably higher profile than the mayor and principals. But their families should not have to hear nasty remarks about their loved one who gives up a lot of their time together to help the kids and the community. I don't think coaches should be immune from criticism, but I do think your overall remarks may have missed the mark on the original post.

 

[4Anorth]

When my daughter became a coach 16 years ago, my wife and I starting attending games. At her first game we sat in the middle of the crowd and watched. During the game there were several parents making comments about substitutions and calls etc. My wife and I just took it all in and supported my daughter and her players. Afterwards we sat in the stands waiting for her when one of the parents from behind us asked which of the players we were there cheering for....I told them none...my daughter is the coach...it was fun watching the blood rush from a few of their faces and all you could hear were crickets.It was nice going to many games after that. There were usually a lot of empty seats around us.

 

[Anon1760269333]

Morris Parents post from Facebook if I can do it correctly. I had to cut and paste.

Jackie Lorenz

I posted this on a couple of the Morris pages, because I felt it needed to be said - who knows if it will be approved- who knows if it will ever reach the intended audience.
Either way, I’m not one to post anonymously or hide behind a keyboard- I stand 10 toes down and if I take the time to share feelings, then trust, I mean it to the depths of my soul.
I’ll just leave this right here publically- it’s long- but I hope somehow it resonates, and we can continue to pack the stands with the right type of energy, to take us all the way!! Xo, J
Good morning, and what a night our community had!I’m still buzzing from the incredible victory our boys pulled off against Geneseo. The excitement, the pride, the energy in that stadium… unforgettable. But alongside all that joy, I witnessed something that I feel deeply compelled to address- something I hope reaches whoever needs to hear it, so we can show up even better in the games ahead.
Hear. Me. Out.
Yesterday’s stands were packed. The crowd was electric. The nerves, the anticipation- you could feel it in your bones. There were moments where you could have heard a pin drop, and moments where the roar was so loud your ears rang for minutes afterwards. High school football… there is truly nothing in the world like it.
Early in the game, after a rocky start, Geneseo scored. Then, moving into the second quarter, we had an interception. As a mom, my heart immediately went out to our boys- the quarterback, the receiver, the linemen. My instinct was to lift them up, to push the positive energy right back onto that field.
But then, from behind us, came the loudest heckling I’ve ever heard. And to my surprise, it wasn’t directed at the refs, the opposing team, or even a questionable call. It was aimed directly at our head coach.
In a matter of seconds, someone I assumed was with us- part of our community, our support, our pride- turned and spewed the nastiest, most rattling remarks down onto the field. Criticizing the coach, the staff, the play call, the interception- anything he could throw, he threw. The tension around us shifted. For a brief moment, the stands felt disconnected, heavy. And I even had the fleeting thought, “Oh no… what if Geneseo wins?” Looking back, I know that was the negativity pouring down from that one voice.
But, unfortunately, that wasn’t even the worst part.
After several minutes of complaints, rants, and yelling, curiosity got the best of me. I turned to see who this heckler was - praying it wasn’t someone I knew. (And thankfully, it wasn’t.)
But who I did see sitting directly in front of him absolutely shattered me.
Our head coach’s wife.
Supported by her best friend.
Our head coach’s daughter.
Supported by her best friends.
The parents of another offensive coach.
I saw the faces of our community- people who, through their strength and unity, chose to rise above. People who walked past him at halftime with poise and dignity, even though his words were a direct hit to OUR TEAM, from OUR STANDS, in OUR MOMENT OF WEAKNESS.
This team has poured endless hours into this season to get where we are right now, here in November. I see our coaches leave team dinner the night before games, hear them talk about the film they studied late into the night, watch nerves settle as they share a meal and the camaraderie of a staff that gives 100% of themselves. They sacrifice time with their families, personal plans, and sleep to show up for our boys during the most memorable years of their lives.
Last night I asked my son at home, “When things get tough, when the other team makes a big play or you guys fall behind- does the team feel that? Does it get heavy?” He looked at me like I had three heads.
“Hell no! We got this. We always bounce back. If defense doesn’t have it, offense has it. We’re tuned in to each other.”
My heart nearly exploded. What a group of young men- coached to be mentally strong, resilient, and unified.
Then I asked nervously, “Um, can you hear the crowd when people yell negative stuff?”
Another eye roll.
“Yeah. All the time. They don’t know what they’re talking about. We laugh at it. It doesn’t bother us, because what they’re yelling is wrong half the time. They’re wannabes- they could never do what we do, or what our coaches do.” Period.
How embarrassing, how silly, how inappropriate, how dare you! If this team is unshook and has unwaivering faith, especially when the going gets tough, what gives anyone the right, (from our stands, mind you) to attempt to rattle that with their unjust opinions?
So I come here to say… As we continue on this road- if you find yourself in the Maroon stands, remember this. You are surrounded by REAL fans. Fans who believe in this team with everything they’ve got.
Let this be a reminder: this is not an NFL stadium. This is not a place where your negativity disappears into a sea of 70,000 strangers. Here, you sit shoulder-to-shoulder with mothers, daughters, wives, fathers, best friends, brothers, fiancées, grandparents. We are one. We stand behind this team. Your words echo. They hit. They matter.
So respectfully: If you feel the urge to heckle… to criticize… to pour negativity onto those sidelines…
Shut your mouth.
Get your *** up.
Move yourself to the other side of the field- where people don’t know the blood, sweat, grit, and family that has been built on the fields of 1000 Union St.
Do not come for our sons, husbands, dads, grandsons, nephews, or friends.
Let’s go, Morris. Montini doesn’t know what’s coming- and we’re coming full speed.

What a great post. Thanks for sharing.

My thought is, why is it so hard to turn around and tell that fan to shut the hell up?

 

[4Afan]

What a great post. Thanks for sharing.

My thought is, why is it so hard to turn around and tell that fan to shut the hell up?

Then you're assuming he would have listened. You say something and there's the possibility the situation escalates.

Without knowing exactly what was said it sounds like this lady was clutching her pearls and wondering how anyone could think their coach or team was anything but perfect.

As a Morris fan as far as I'm concerned there's nothing to see here and everyone can move on.

 

[Patrick Devitt]

I have mixed feelings on this one. If no degrading words were used and not directed at the kids, I believe coaches are fair game for criticism. If anything they get a 10 year job window with little to no accountability, not like they have press to answer to.
Obviously this lady was over emotional and never played at high level sport, you never hear the crowd.
If anyone knows her tell not to worry so much it will be over quick with Montini .

 

[89morrisgrad]

Then you're assuming he would have listened. You say something and there's the possibility the situation escalates.

Without knowing exactly what was said it sounds like this lady was clutching her pearls and wondering how anyone could think their coach or team was anything but perfect.

As a Morris fan as far as I'm concerned there's nothing to see here and everyone can move on.

I also am from Morris and I agree. It's not worth it to confront the person themselves. I myself over the years have been guilty of said "questioning of coach", although I would like to believe I was not to the level at which was taken above. Depending on the person and situation, turning around and replying back could have easily escalated to a variety of levels. Usually, the best option is to just ignore or IF it gets too loud, personal, etc., then reach out to any security or person at the venue who is better qualified to deal with such issues. Just my opinion.

 

[McCaravan]

For Coaches it's an occupational hazard. They understand it comes with the territory. An occasional one will lose their cool but most ignore it. As mentioned by another poster that I think she was most bothered that that the coaches family had to hear it and that sucks but most coaches families are used to it. They have alligator skin. We all have our breaking point. I have no problem telling a heckling fan to shut the hell up, and I'm usually met with enormous applause and support.

 

[USD24]

I dont like criticizing coaches. It's just wrong on all levels. I really dont care what people say when I am at the games. I just ignore them. If they want to do or say stupid things then it's just a reflection of themselves. They should just make positive comments with the students around.

As for Morris, throughout their history they have done well and I am looking at the Morris vs Montini matchup as a close game.

Usually when I discuss Morris all I want to talk about the legend himself, Dergo.

Who's this Dergo that people keep bringing up?

 

[McCaravan]

Who's this Dergo that people keep bringing up?

He killed Apollo in Rocky 4