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Hard to see UK ahead of LSU and SC. UT? Maybe, though I think it's unfair to cast UT as "Appalachian" rather than Southern. That's like downgrading LSU for being influenced by Cajun/Creole culture, and in either case, those characterizations only tells part of the story of the school's culture. Biggest thing with UT is the impact of Nashville going Atlanta-lite. Florida might be dead last at this point. Gulf State folk have no clue how truly Southern Western Kentucky and small town Central Kentucky really are. Then they label Lexington "Yankee" because the right of way is mowed and the restrooms at Pilot have entries on the cleaning log on the back of the door.
 

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As always, depends on your personal definition of what is "southern". The SEC covers a region with high variances of culture.

Louisiana is not Tennessee. Texas is not Georgia. Kentucky is not South Carolina. Alabama is not Arkansas.

In my mind growing up with 1970's Burt Reynolds/trucker movies, the South or Southern pretty much evokes Alabama & Georgia. Mostly backwoods rural communities, low population, 2 lane roads.
 

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As always, depends on your personal definition of what is "southern". The SEC covers a region with high variances of culture.

Louisiana is not Tennessee. Texas is not Georgia. Kentucky is not South Carolina. Alabama is not Arkansas.

In my mind growing up with 1970's Burt Reynolds/trucker movies, the South or Southern pretty much evokes Alabama & Georgia. Mostly backwoods rural communities, low population, 2 lane roads.

Perception is alot, several states in the SEC aren't southern, they just happen to be in the SEC.

I think Missouri, Arkansas, Texas and OU are mid western. South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama and parts ot Tennessee are who I consider southern. I think Eastern Tennessee and Kentucky are Appalachian more than southern because of the mountains. I don't know where Florida fits but not the south.
 
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As always, depends on your personal definition of what is "southern". The SEC covers a region with high variances of culture.

Louisiana is not Tennessee. Texas is not Georgia. Kentucky is not South Carolina. Alabama is not Arkansas.

In my mind growing up with 1970's Burt Reynolds/trucker movies, the South or Southern pretty much evokes Alabama & Georgia. Mostly backwoods rural communities, low population, 2 lane roads.
Yeah and there's also a distinction between "Country" and "Southern". Kentucky is unique mix of both. We're definately a rural country state for the most past and also very southern in some ways as well. I know some try to call us Midwestern and no question parts of western Ky and northern Ky have that feel for use, but for the most part culturaly we're country/southern. And when you throw in the signature things we're known for (Bourbon, Horses, Bluegrass Music, Fried Chicken) it kind of seals the stamp for us as a southern state. I know I consider myself a proud southerner. So compared to the others on the list, I'd put us in the middle somewhere.
 

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I've lived in GA, TN, AL, Ark, and KY. I was born and reared in WKY and lived in NKY area also. I also have worked the whole states of KY, GA, AL, MS, TN and much of FL, MO and IL and other than Louisville, proper, Fayette Co., and NKY, there's very little difference in any of the populace of these states outside of the populated areas other than GA and FL. IMO the only reason SC can claim being Southern is because of where it's located. Of all the places I've worked it's the pits. They want to be like NC, sort of like UofL being little brother. Actually I consider most of KY and rural southern states Southern Red Neck.
 

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Kentucky should get friggin bonus points for Southernhood ….. horse racing, bourbon, beautiful ladies, genteel culturing ….. and we’re holding the biggest border against that Yankee culture!
Agree. Kentucky is:
  • The center of the universe for horse racing,
  • Home of the bourbon industry (with moonshiners on the side),
  • Birthplace of bluegrass music,
  • Home to world famous Kentucky Fried Chicken and COL Sanders' iconic white suit and string tie,
  • Historic tobacco industry,
  • Early American military history with Kentuckians at the Battle of New Orleans and multiple battles for Texas independence (ref Newport Guns)....
  • Burgoo & hot browns,
  • Mint juleps,
  • Iconic Stephen Foster state song,
  • and then throw in manufacturer of America's most iconic sports car--chevy corvette.

That is a tough line-up to beat. Easily top half in the SEC.

GBB!
 

RunninRichie

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Tenneessee fans in the comments are pissed. One guy called us a ''yankee state''. They must not know that KY and TN might as well be the same state. Western KY and TN were pro confederate and grew cotton. Central KY and TN were pretty divided in sentiment during the war and are southern culturally. Eastern KY and TN are Appalachian. South Carolina fans can be mad sure. They are deep southern after all.
 

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Perception is alot, several states in the SEC aren't southern, they just happen to be in the SEC.

I think Missouri, Arkansas, Texas and OU are mid western. South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama and parts ot Tennessee are who I consider southern. I think Eastern Tennessee and Kentucky are Appalachian more than southern because of the mountains. I don't know where Florida fits but not the south.
Florida panhandle is South Alabama
 
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I've lived in GA, TN, AL, Ark, and KY. I was born and reared in WKY and lived in NKY area also. I also have worked the whole states of KY, GA, AL, MS, TN and much of FL, MO and IL and other than Louisville, proper, Fayette Co., and NKY, there's very little difference in any of the populace of these states outside of the populated areas other than GA and FL. IMO the only reason SC can claim being Southern is because of where it's located. Of all the places I've worked it's the pits. They want to be like NC, sort of like UofL being little brother. Actually I consider most of KY and rural southern states Southern Red Neck.
Having grown up in Lexington-I personally identify with a more midwestern mindset. I see my Louisville friends the same way.

Mind you, a lot of my love for the Midwest is borne out of strong dislike for the East Coast. Boston down through NY, Philadelphia Baltimore and DC. Give me the Midwest and it’s way of life (sans Chicago and St Louis)

Outside of Lexington and Louisville , I get a rural feel for sure, but nothing like the Deep South. Not even close.
 

Grumpyolddawg

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Anyone who say's Kentucky is ''Midwest'' or ''Appalachian'' has no clue what they are talking about. Appalachian culture is in NC, AL, GA, and Tenneessee. It blends with the native southern culture there. Just like it does in KY. Are Alabama, Georgia, and tenneessee Appalachian? Nope, They're southern. Just like Kentucky isn't Appalachian because the eastern portion of the state is. Also, there's a reason southern indiana is very southern in feel. Most people there settled from KENTUCKY. The only parts that are ''midwestern'' are the 3/4 or so counties that border Cincinnati. And even then Cincinnati is often said to feel southern due to the Kentucky transplants there. Ask a Ohioan not from Cincy. They'll tell you. Also, there's a reason a part of Missouri close to Kentucky is called ''Little Dixie''.

I'm in south-central Kentucky and my ancestry is from VA, TN, and NC. My last name comes from TN. I had 2 grandfathers, (1 from KY, 1 from TN) 2 uncles, (all from KY) and 4 cousins (1st and 3 2nds. All from Barren County) all fight for the south. An additional GGG uncle rode with Forrest in the 8thTN Cavalry. I consider myself a southerner. As most everyone in KY should.

Never said I was right, but that is the perception I get from programs on TV about the areas. Eastern KY and TN gives the impression of more mountains than anywhere in Georgia, Alabama or Mississippi and the areas are portrayed as many with low incomes, hard workers. But never spent any time there, just passed through a few time. Lots of low income areas in Georgia too, but not in the mountain areas.
 
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Never said I was right, but that is the perception I get from programs on TV about the areas. Eastern KY and TN gives the impression of more mountains than anywhere in Georgia, Alabama or Mississippi and the areas are portrayed as many with low incomes, hard workers. But never spent any time there, just passed through a few time. Lots of low income areas in Georgia too, but not in the mountain areas.
The eastern portions of those states is only like a 3rd of the cultures in those states.
 

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The eastern portions of those states is only like a 3rd of the cultures in those states.

That was why I mentioned the eastern parts and not the entire state. It's north and south different in Georgia, mostly industry in the north, except for chickens, and agriculture in the southern part
 
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Yeah and there's also a distinction between "Country" and "Southern". Kentucky is unique mix of both. We're definately a rural country state for the most past and also very southern in some ways as well. I know some try to call us Midwestern and no question parts of western Ky and northern Ky have that feel for use, but for the most part culturaly we're country/southern. And when you throw in the signature things we're known for (Bourbon, Horses, Bluegrass Music, Fried Chicken) it kind of seals the stamp for us as a southern state. I know I consider myself a proud southerner. So compared to the others on the list, I'd put us in the middle somewhere.
It truly is a mix of all. Louisville and Covington are definitely midwestern feeling. Lexington has a bit of it all being in the middle of the state. Eastern and western ky are their own animals too. But I suppose every state has its own micro cultures
 

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Like all SEC states are different, each state has distinct regional differences. Eastern Kentucky and Tennessee are quite diff from Louisville and Nashville, and both are diff from the Western ends of the states.

You'd have to go as far north as Philadelphia to find a place as Yankee as Atlanta is now.

Austin is as far left politically as San Francisco, the rest of Texas politically and culturally matches up with the South.
 

Grumpyolddawg

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It truly is a mix of all. Louisville and Covington are definitely midwestern feeling. Lexington has a bit of it all being in the middle of the state. Eastern and western ky are their own animals too.

I think that is true with states that are 3-4 hundred miles across.
Like all SEC states are different, each state has distinct regional differences. Eastern Kentucky and Tennessee are quite diff from Louisville and Nashville, and both are diff from the Western ends of the states.

You'd have to go as far north as Philadelphia to find a place as Yankee as Atlanta is now.

Austin is as far left politically as San Francisco, the rest of Texas politically and culturally matches up with the South.

I think the statement about Atlanta is spot on. North Ga has a different lay of the land, much more industry than the southern part of the state which is still very heavy agriculture. Atlanta is a melting pot of people from all over the country, or world that come to work, start up a business. 30 years ago places 40 miles outside of Atlanta were farms and horse ranches. Today those same parcels of land are homes to sub divisions of gated communities with 750k+ houses so close together you can't walk side by side between them.
 

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For anyone that thinks we are more culturally midwestern than southern, I'd love to hear what midwestern things Kentucky brags about. I can name a lot of "southern" things or things associated with being southern that Kentucky is proud of.
People see the geography. We are at the top of the South. So we border midwestern states. But that's just it. We are top of the south with Virginia. Kentucky was carved out of Virginia and we still maintain close ties. In the civil war many Kentuckians joined the confederate army when Virginia seceded. Many people at that time had parents or grandparents born in VA and considered it their 2nd home state.
 
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From my time spent in both areas. Southern Indiana and Southern Ohio are pretty darn "south". More than any part of Missouri.
 

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For anyone that thinks we are more culturally midwestern than southern, I'd love to hear what midwestern things Kentucky brags about. I can name a lot of "southern" things or things associated with being southern that Kentucky is proud of.
Spend some time in non metro rural areas in the south and we aren’t near that. Roughly 2 mil of Ky population lives right across a river from midwestern states…Ohio, Indiana, Missouri and add into that some of that influence working its way down beyond those cities for miles. Having lived in multiple southern states I would also say Ky is more midwestern weather wise. I wouldn’t argue that it isn’t southern but i don’t think we can argue it isn’t midwestern either. The Classic border state. As far as what we are known for outside of the state it’s essentially college basketball (not southern), horse racing (a sport steeped in the east coast originally and sport of the elite), and bourbon (which has become trendy and metropolitan over the last 10-15 years largely seems like a non geographical preference type product). We do have a lot of southern traits I just think it’s impossible to say we are southern based on living in some other southern areas.
 
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From my time spent in both areas. Southern Indiana and Southern Ohio are pretty darn "south". More than any part of Missouri.
Louisville has no southern feel to me at all city wise. I love the people in northern ky and have family there but they might as well be cincinnati to me and there is a distinct difference to me.
 

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Spend some time in non metro rural areas in the south and we aren’t near that. Roughly 2 mil of Ky population lives right across a river from midwestern states…Ohio, Indiana, Missouri and add into that some of that influence working its way down beyond those cities for miles. Having lived in multiple southern states I would also say Ky is more midwestern weather wise. I wouldn’t argue that it isn’t southern but i don’t think we can argue it isn’t midwestern either. The Classic border state. As far as what we are known for outside of the state it’s essentially college basketball (not southern), horse racing (a sport steeped in the east coast originally and sport of the elite), and bourbon (which has become trendy and metropolitan over the last 10-15 years largely seems like a non geographical preference type product). We do have a lot of southern traits I just think it’s impossible to say we are southern based on living in some other southern areas.
Also popular in North Carolina. Kentucky is in the subtropical climate range with the rest of the south. Started in the south. More like the southern influence is working its way UP for miles. Climate map https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.7d2408d...oYxIqLMgr/dHl033HQ0G/tY=&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0
 
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Hardly anyone I work w around Lexington has a “Southern” accent. I hear it more in the older folks. Of course there are lots of transplants here.
 

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For anyone that thinks we are more culturally midwestern than southern, I'd love to hear what midwestern things Kentucky brags about. I can name a lot of "southern" things or things associated with being southern that Kentucky is proud of.
You don’t make southern living magazine if you’re not a southern state 🍺
 
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Also popular in North Carolina. Kentucky is in the subtropical climate range with the rest of the south. Started in the south. More like the southern influence is working its way UP for miles. Climate map https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.7d2408d782c8296e6635688115222322?rik=PIpRUBOrE0L6/Q&riu=http://www.bonap.org/Climate+Maps/climate48shadeA.png&ehk=dq7tR7pcT+qCPqOaF3HToYxIqLMgr/dHl033HQ0G/tY=&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0
Just from personal experience there is a noticeable difference in winters just between Lexington and Middle Tennessee. Also, I think my mind thinks of it as more midwest climate because the number of sunny days is pretty low so more gray/overcast. It's like 50/50 days with and without sun.
 

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-Kentucky has the good aspects of the south and the Midwest. It's damn near a perfect blend. Both regions are nice.

^never got the obsession with being "southern"...it's weird.
 
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For anyone that thinks we are more culturally midwestern than southern, I'd love to hear what midwestern things Kentucky brags about. I can name a lot of "southern" things or things associated with being southern that Kentucky is proud of.

-work ethic.

^to clarify I don't think we're "more" midwestern...a nice blend like many have stated.
 

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It truly is a mix of all. Louisville and Covington are definitely midwestern feeling. Lexington has a bit of it all being in the middle of the state. Eastern and western ky are their own animals too. But I suppose every state has its own micro cultures
Ive said to folks outside Ky for a long time. Its one of the most regionally diverse states anywhere. Bluegrass Horse Country, Appalachian Mountains, Metro Areas (greater Cincy and Louisville), Western Ky Flatlands, and Southern Ky.
 
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-Kentucky has the good aspects of the south and the Midwest. It's damn near a perfect blend. Both regions are nice.

^never got the obsession with being "southern"...it's weird.
I love that Ky offers a great mix of culture, climate and geography. It's a blend of southern and Midwestern depending on where you are. Geography ranges from the plains of western Ky, knobs in Central/Northern Ky, to the gorges and Mountains of eastern Ky. The climate is a great blend of all 4 seasons.
 
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-ok...what are folks proud of/why are they proud of being southern.

^curious...I feel the same about all "pride" movements, BTW.
 
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For anyone that thinks we are more culturally midwestern than southern, I'd love to hear what midwestern things Kentucky brags about. I can name a lot of "southern" things or things associated with being southern that Kentucky is proud of.
Good point, Kentucky Fried Chicken isn't called Midwestern Fried Chicken it's Southern Fried Chicken.
 

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Just from personal experience there is a noticeable difference in winters just between Lexington and Middle Tennessee. Also, I think my mind thinks of it as more midwest climate because the number of sunny days is pretty low so more gray/overcast. It's like 50/50 days with and without sun.
Where I live in south central Kentucky it might as well be middle Tennessee.
 
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