Mountain Lion killed on Illinois highway.

notFromhere

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Watching Halloween and when Loomis stops to make a call, Illinois appears to be a great desert. And there may have been mountains in the background. You may be on to something.

It looks like a desert in the late fall, with the exception of corn stalk stubble everywhere. Quite depressing were it not for the ..... nevermind.. it's depressing.
 
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It looks like a desert in the late fall, with the exception of corn stalk stubble everywhere. Quite depressing were it not for the ..... nevermind.. it's depressing.
You can certainly see much further in the fall. But what's underneath that is gold.
 
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Have a friend that knew some of her friends and saw her out a time or two. She wasn't the hottest of her group of friends, either. But she's somebody's cup of tea no doubt. Reminds me of Kirstie Alley too much but not as pretty as KA at the same age
KA now........not so much.
 
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Watched one walk across the field next to ours last spring. Thing was bigger than a German shepherd. Black long tail. Got some pics next to some round bales the farmer had out there. Along with a few others for scope and size. It was eery and impressive.

Wildlife told us it was a housecat. And ignored us. Wouldn't send anyone out to even glance. Saw it several times over a week or two.

Anytime fish and wildlife hears " black cat" they know what they are dealing with. Black phase or "melanistic" has never ever been documented in mt lions. Only jaguars and leopards. So unless something rolled into etown from south America or Asia, it was a housecat.
 
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UKRob 73

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No amount of evidence will convince a fool. -- Mark Twain.

Dad was a game warden. He saw the mountain lions on Ft. KNOX. He helped take plaster casts of the tracks. 2 of my uncles saw them. Hunters saw them. They exist and are here. And breeding. (Mamma lion, 1 cub, verified) has to be a daddy somewhere)
In all the mt lion stories, there has been one documentation from the 70's. It was indeed a cub hit by a car in eky. After testing, the cub had DNA from the pet trade. So either it was an escaped pet, or it broke into someone's house and bred with their captive mt lion.
Here is the deal, these things aren't that elusive. Illinois just had a mt lion wonder in, they had countless trailcam pics and then it was hit by a car. Proof is readily available when they exist.

This topic has been going on for 10 years just on this website. Still not a single shred of proof from ky. One will eventually wonder in, but right now it's just a bunch of malarkey.
 

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In all the mt lion stories, there has been one documentation from the 70's. It was indeed a cub hit by a car in eky. After testing, the cub had DNA from the pet trade. So either it was an escaped pet, or it broke into someone's house and bred with their captive mt lion.
There was DNA testing in the 1970s? Methinks not. Also doubt they'd bother preserving the specimen for future testing via a technology they had no way of knowing would exist.

Agree with your earlier point about a complete lack of evidence for melanistic mountain lions. There have been verified examples of melanistic lynxes and bobcats, though.
 

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Almost hit a small black bear on the Gene Snyder about 2 years ago at 2 am. There were several other reported sightings around that time as well.
A bear was spotted on UK's campus a couple of years ago.
It is not unusual in the early summer for young male bears to wander outside of the established bear range in Eastern Kentucky. These bears get pushed out of the area by older, dominant males, and may wander up to several weeks or more into unfamiliar territory in search of good habitat and prospective mates, before they return to the mountains where they were raised.
 
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Almost hit a small black bear on the Gene Snyder about 2 years ago at 2 am. There were several other reported sightings around that time as well.
A semi truck hit a bear in Shepherdsville a year or two ago. That was another of those things that I'd been hearing for several years that I wasn't sure if it was BS or not. People just don't hunt and get out in the woods like we used to. A lot of those animals are coming back big. I see fox around here almost every week now and I hadn't seen one since the early 80's.
 
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Anytime fish and wildlife hears " black cat" they know what they are dealing with. Black phase or "melanistic" has never ever been documented in mt lions. Only jaguars and leopards. So unless something rolled into etown from south America or Asia, it was a housecat.
Black cats make their way into Texas once in awhile. Not sure what reports of black cats are outside of there. These cats are small but have long tails.

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The most elusive animal that lives in the area to me is the badger. Does anybody have trail cam pictures of badgers? I saw a skunk so big in Western Kentucky that I thought it was a badger, but it was not.
 
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UKRob 73

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There was DNA testing in the 1970s? Methinks not. Also doubt they'd bother preserving the specimen for future testing via a technology they had no way of knowing would exist.

Agree with your earlier point about a complete lack of evidence for melanistic mountain lions. There have been verified examples of melanistic lynxes and bobcats, though.

Just looked it up, it was 1997.

" DNA testing revealed the kitten had South American ancestry, leading to the conclusion that it was of captive origin. Kentucky Fish and Wildlife biologists rely on physical, verifiable evidence to assess mountain lion sightings in the state."