Murphy vs Bishop McGuinness

Griddie

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Whoa struck a nerve. You are comical. Just clueless. This coming from a fan of a all star select girls hoops program which routinely hammered true 1a teams unmerciously
 
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gal durnit

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My God, I am going to agree with BK right here...did I just say that?

hammer...get a clue.
 

Smctrain

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What are you talking about gal, hammer hit the nail on the head lol. All of us SMC schools recruit you know that. We pay big bucks here in Hayesville to field a team that goes 0-6 two years in a row. If people don't understand how the reservation and school in it works or that the reservation itself lies on two different counties (and even more EBCI land in other counties) then they don't need to speak on it. Yes we are 1A, but you can ask any of the 2A, 3A and 4A teams that have played teams from the SMC, we play much bigger than 1A.
 

1uncheelS#

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For years you smc guys have argued over the constant jumping of players from Cherokee to swain and others going to Murphy just to play football and now you deny it. Ok. Murphy will have no problem with bishop. Should not have any way. If Bishop was a traditional school where there players had 8-10 years of playing together they would be a strong team. Most of those players never met each other until high school. They have plenty of good athletes just lack that experience of playing together and in the same system for years. Good luck to all the teams playing
 

Smctrain

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Listen we give each other hell on a daily basis and that is how we like it. Every student at Cherokee has the choice of going to 3 different high schools. We give murphy crap because they can take players from H. Dam because they dont offer football. Yes most of our kids have played together for years and some don't start til high school. But the difference is that we are from very counties and the draw of those kids is very low.
 

gal durnit

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Getting way off topic here but since it was brought up...I have never denied students don't jump from school to school. What I have denied is the recruiting. I can't speak for other schools but I can tell you that at Swain County, the coaches want the guys who want to be there. They aint begging anyone to play for them. The program and tradition is the "recruiting tool" for many schools. And as far as athletic transfers go, I promise you Swain is no where close to having the most out of the SMC. In fact I would put them at the top for having lost the most students recently, and I am not just talking football. And no one is mad about it. All is well within the rules. Just my thoughts. Carry on.
 
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NClawyer

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Bishop girls basketball never hammered teams unmercifully. Never.

PS WMFootball, I never "crowed" over a kid getting hurt. I said that karma has a way of getting a coach that ran up a score in a high school girls basketball game of 120-7. That coach subsequently got fired for the way she acted.
 

dogtuff

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Bishop girls basketball never hammered teams unmercifully. Never.

PS WMFootball, I never "crowed" over a kid getting hurt. I said that karma has a way of getting a coach that ran up a score in a high school girls basketball game of 120-7. That coach subsequently got fired for the way she acted.
Murphy vs Bishop ..... Football first round, Dogs will line up and run it { for the most part } Villains are gonna spread out and throw it. Have a safe trip and good luck to you . GO DOGS!
 
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I'm sure the parent of the kid you were referring to feels better about your comments now. Their child blowing out a knee was karmic payback to the coach. If I was the parent, that would make me feel better. No way I would take that as making light of my child's catastrophic injury.
 

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Well Ive read along and now add my 2 cents: Bishop has taken over 1A girls hoops, drawing the top talent from a metro area of around 500,000 people. Drawing in 12-15 basketball players does take a financial commitment. But that pales in comparison to the financial commitment it would take to draw in 30-40 top notch football players. I have no doubt if Bishop had the resources available and commited they would try to dominate 1A football. Then tell all the teams they beat to suck it up. Make NO mistake, they would LOVE to dominate the small schools in football also, it's just gonna take a lot more money commited to do it.
 
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NClawyer

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No, can't make the game as I have to be out of state for a family matter. Would absolutely love to go to a game at Murphy with their great tradition.
 

NClawyer

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knine, what do you mean by "drawing in 12-15 basketball players takes a financial commitment?"
 

Griddie

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Only Swain in football has the luxury of getting Cherokee players. Isn't that way for other SMC teams.
 

Go4itKnights

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Well Ive read along and now add my 2 cents: Bishop has taken over 1A girls hoops, drawing the top talent from a metro area of around 500,000 people. Drawing in 12-15 basketball players does take a financial commitment. But that pales in comparison to the financial commitment it would take to draw in 30-40 top notch football players. I have no doubt if Bishop had the resources available and commited they would try to dominate 1A football. Then tell all the teams they beat to suck it up. Make NO mistake, they would LOVE to dominate the small schools in football also, it's just gonna take a lot more money commited to do it.
Preach it knine !!!! I have been thinking the exact same thing as I read this thread. Bishop props up some of their programs, but football would require a much bigger commitment. Apparently Bishop also commits some financial support to the tennis and cross country teams too. LOL

What we mean by "financial commitment" 3Daughters, is scholarships awarded to students who may benefit your athlete programs. You can deny it all you want, but that doesn't change the facts. The sad thing is, that the NCHSAA allows you to get away with it and play in a traditional school classification.
 
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gal durnit

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Only Swain in football has the luxury of getting Cherokee players.

Wrong. Smoky Mountain gets and loses players to Cherokee too, just as they get and lose players to Swain. And it doesn't only pertain to football. It is across sports and some transfers are simply for school, nothing more. We have been through this already though...many times. Back to the topic. Murphy rolls big I am thinking.
 

Sportsnut17

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Well Ive read along and now add my 2 cents: Bishop has taken over 1A girls hoops, drawing the top talent from a metro area of around 500,000 people. Drawing in 12-15 basketball players does take a financial commitment. But that pales in comparison to the financial commitment it would take to draw in 30-40 top notch football players. I have no doubt if Bishop had the resources available and commited they would try to dominate 1A football. Then tell all the teams they beat to suck it up. Make NO mistake, they would LOVE to dominate the small schools in football also, it's just gonna take a lot more money commited to do it.

Usually takes it 2-3 weeks of basketball before this comes up.
 

murphy1981

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Wrong. Smoky Mountain gets and loses players to Cherokee too, just as they get and lose players to Swain. And it doesn't only pertain to football. It is across sports and some transfers are simply for school, nothing more. We have been through this already though...many times. Back to the topic. Murphy rolls big I am thinking.


This tread has gone way off topic. Please return to talking about football instead of this recruiting nonsense.

Too many threads being hijacked for the following silly subjects:
Murphy's early college
swain's recruiting players from cherokee

Most of these issues are usually brought up by one Robbinsville poster or in case of this thread someone from outside the SMC.
 
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Go4itKnights

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Sorry 81, hijacked by folks with an interest in girls basketball.

But not much to say about this game ... Murphy will dominate - 2nd and 3rd string boys will get a good bit of play time. Some folks posted earlier that Bishop has a good QB and a couple of good receivers ... so maybe some passing, but I'm gonna predict a shutout or maybe a single score on Murphy's 3rd string.
 
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Kingbluedevil

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Bishop will most likely lose this game and most likely by a lot but they will play hard and show a lot of class win or lose. West Stokes was in the same conference for about 4 years. Probably will not bring a lot of fans since the long trip.
 

Bull Durham1964

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Preach it knine !!!! I have been thinking the exact same thing as I read this thread. Bishop props up some of their programs, but football would require a much bigger commitment. Apparently Bishop also commits some financial support to the tennis and cross country teams too. LOL

What we mean by "financial commitment" 3Daughters, is scholarships awarded to students who may benefit your athlete programs. You can deny it all you want, but that doesn't change the facts. The sad thing is, that the NCHSAA allows you to get away with it and play in a traditional school classification.
So because you say they are facts makes it true? More SMC making up stuff, because if your better than them you have to be cheating. Give me a break. Bishop has a great coach who has a great aau program. Kids can go where they want to in Forsyth County. So kids that play for him choose Bishop, no scholarships.
 

1uncheelS#

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Bishop will most likely lose this game and most likely by a lot but they will play hard and show a lot of class win or lose. West Stokes was in the same conference for about 4 years. Probably will not bring a lot of fans since the long trip.
They don't bring many fans on a short trip but they will play hard. Dont know the formula for beating Myrphy but to beat Bishop just run the ball if you have any speed. In their track meet with Prep they couldn't stop Preps speedy backs and Prep couldn't defend their passing game. Good kids. Pulling for Bishop but betting on Murphy
 

Go4itKnights

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What the heck are you talking about scholarships at bishop? No such thing.
So are you saying each and every student at BG has their tuition, book, and fees paid 100% by their parents? There are no low income students at BG? Come on, even your website has info about a scholarship named for a former principal.
 
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Go4itKnights

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So because you say they are facts makes it true? More SMC making up stuff, because if your better than them you have to be cheating. Give me a break. Bishop has a great coach who has a great aau program. Kids can go where they want to in Forsyth County. So kids that play for him choose Bishop, no scholarships.
So Bull, are you saying Forsyth County public schools do not have designated boundaries, like every other public school in the state does? Hmmm interesting - I wonder why the DOE allows kids to go where they want in Forsyth and not the other 99 counties in the state?

No scholarships? That's strange because the BG website has info about scholarships. If every single student is funded by their own parent's money then the socioeconomic structure of BG must be pretty narrow. You guys and gals might be the 1%ers I keep hearing so much about.
 

NClawyer

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no scholarships for anyone playing any sport. If a student receives ANY assistance they cannot play any sport at BM or at the other 3 Catholic schools in the NCHSAA (Charlotte Catholic and Cardinal Gibbons for more than 50 years). If you have been under the impression that the BM girls team has "scholarship" players you are 100% mistaken.

All the schools are open enrollment magnet schools in the WS/Forsyth County school district.
 

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Congratulations to the Murphy Bulldogs on their win tonight. Both Cherokee County Schools move on to the 2nd round ( Andrews )