My favorite time of the year..... 21%....
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We're going to modify our plan to keep the hike to 10%, but it still sucks. No change in census, other than 1 more year of age, and it's the second year in a row we've had high double digit increases.
Is your plan private? Through a large group plan? Union? Has your deductible gone up? Notice I didn't say down.:flush:
Then, you agree that Obamacare is a failure? The original sell was that it would insure more at a lower cost. You say the % increase is constant. The uncovered remains at 41 million without coverage. Coverage for a lot of insured is less than what they had before, and out-of-pocket cost is greater now than before. And total cost of Obamacare is to grow in the out years. Clearly a failure.
Not a total failure, but not a homerun by any stretch. We could probably have something far better than present if the Republicans would work on improving the law instead of wasting time trying to void it. The law was never intended to reduce insurance costs in the near term, but we should be slowing down the rate of increase. I wish the R's would stop whining, raise the penalties and give the enforcement some teeth.
It's not a penalty. It's a tax.
Did you seriously just try to blame the goddamn GOP? Seriously? The whole reason they didn't want it passed to begin with was because of all the drawbacks we are seeing now. The DNC rammed this unwanted **** down our throats. We had to pass to even see what was in it. It's been a colossal goat **** from start to present, and you have the audacity to say it's the GOPs fault for not cleaning up the mess the DNC made? How far would you say your head is up your ***? Just to the ears or are you neck deep?
They thought health insurance can be treated like any other free market, but it's not. So we won't even see rates drop in the long term. Much less actual care costs.
Mark it down. As ICD-10 is more widely implemented, and as more boomers hit their 70's and 80's, costs are going to skyrocket.
The whole law was a lie and if the Dems had wanted to work with the r's , then there would have been something better. The dems passed it by resolution not by vote. Hopefully, the tables will be turned after next election and the law can be repealed by resolution.
Coop, are you taking a few liberties with the history of Obamacare? The original sell was the cost of medical care to be reduced and everyone was to actually be covered. "Never intended to reduce insurance costs in the near term" may be an accurate statement if you are copying "depends on what is is" Clintonian parsing . Pray tell, why would the Rs want to associate their name and reputation with the abortion created solely by Ds? Are you suggesting Rs should adopt something they fought since inception to bail out their opposition?
The GOP absolutely shares the blame for this. Not only for their ridiculous attempts to hurt Obama instead of fixing the problems, but for the years of doing nothing that precluded the law. My head is far too large to fit up my *** and I am nowhere near flexible to begin with.
BTW - tax/penalty whatever you want to call it needs strengthened as does the enforcability (sp/even a word?). I can't believe all you "conservatives" are ok with all the f'n freeloaders in this country.
Very interesting concept that you "can't believe... conservatives... OK with f'n freeloaders. Your solution is for someone else pay taxes/fees to relieve the obligation of f'n freeloaders?
Remember where this started? People's premiums were increasing to compensate the providers of services for those who sought/got free emergency room services. I offered at the time to do away with the knowns/unknowns in Obamacare and increase everyone's taxes to hold the facilities harmless. Our asses have been forced thru a wringer, and Obamacare is still not fully implemented.
And, don't forget, the whole exercise may be reversed at the polls. Republican candidates have not thrown in the towel yet.
Well the distinction is pretty important for the ruling of SCOTUS to hold merit first of all.
Secondly, Dems get to enjoy this piece of **** to the end. It's not the GOPs responsibility to bail you idiots out. Everything the GOP cautioned on with the ACA is coming to fruition. The DNC strategy was to just get something passed and then fix it later. The GOP isn't going to give you that chance. This fvcked is going to hurt and then die further solidifying Obama's legacy.