There wouldn't be any of that without the wars and loss of life that the song was created for. If you don't understand that the things you mentioned are the exact things the national anthem stands for, freedom to do all of these, then, well nm
National Anthem
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Couple of things
thanks for responding to why I don’t sing respectfully
you are correct we are a protest friendly country and there is still a lot of important stuff to protest. Stuff way more important, I think Jesus said something about straining gnats and swallowing camels
on a side note. My friend that I share season tickets to MBB and WBB worked for the Atlanta Hawks for 20 years. One of his jobs was to be in charge of singers for the national anthem. Management’s mandate was it had to be sung in 1:45 or shorter. He had to audition everyone before okaying them for a game. My friend has a beautiful voice and sings joyfully every game BUT he times every singer
and will give brutally honest feedback on their abilities.
I haven't attended or watched a WBB since Dawn pushed the BLM narrative and our team started kneeling for the national anthem. When Dawn started taking the players to BLM rallies, it was too much, it was over the line. She has a right to her political beliefs, as does each player, but they represent the university, she is the head coach at the university, and it is improper for her to cause dissent within the fanbase over her personal belief. If players on the team disagreed with Dawn's views, they would feel pressured to kneel, attend rallies, or do whatever Dawn wants, or perhaps they wouldn't ever be allowed to be on the team?
If you served, thank you for your service. If you do not understand the freedoms I am talking about please refer to the Declaration of Independence and our Constitution. We fought wars for them not the anthem
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With the anthem protest stuff, what are you disagreeing with?
Are you protesting the country's anthem which provides you the freedom to protest or disagree? Does that make sense?
Seems we should all be celebrating the country (people) which makes it all possible, while also giving thanks to God who gave our founders the wisdom, strength and guidance to create such a great country.
I assure you, I am well versed on the history and interpretation of the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the meaning(s) of the national anthem.
My wife is a good singer. Sings in church and karaoke and anywhere else. She does the same.Couple of things
thanks for responding to why I don’t sing respectfully
you are correct we are a protest friendly country and there is still a lot of important stuff to protest. Stuff way more important, I think Jesus said something about straining gnats and swallowing camels
on a side note. My friend that I share season tickets to MBB and WBB worked for the Atlanta Hawks for 20 years. One of his jobs was to be in charge of singers for the national anthem. Management’s mandate was it had to be sung in 1:45 or shorter. He had to audition everyone before okaying them for a game. My friend has a beautiful voice and sings joyfully every game BUT he times every singer
Clearly, you love the anthem. You also have fetishized the anthem to such an extent that no answer or explanation given about not standing will satisfy you.
You seem to view those who do not stand as somehow disloyal. People of good conscience can disagree and still be faithful/loyal/patriotic.
my experience with those who do not stand, is they want America to do better not tear it down.
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So everyone who does not stand for the NA is a victim? I love your thinking!
Extreme ignorance? Why because they don't think the same way as you do? Great way of thinking!
Gotta ask…… who is Sarah? Wife? Mother? Sister? Daughter? Pet boa constrictor?
Look up both words in a dictionary. They are very different.
There is motivation behind a protest. There is no motivation in being apathetic, which is inherent in the definition of the word itself.
I don't need to look up anything. I stated my position quite clearly. BOTH are forms of disrespect.
Nope...ignorance and disagreement are not the same. Were folks skipping school the day that dictionaries were distributed?
You certainly don't need to look up anything. But if you did, you'd see that your subjective argument can be refuted with an objective definition.
Again I ask, by not standing, what are you disagreeing with? The national anthem of the country giving you the right to disagree? How are you making it better by not honoring the country making it all possible.
As a comparison, if you went to a funeral for a coworker and was asked to stand to honor them, would you stand, or sit because you had some disagreement with the person being honored.
I'm one of those guys that customarily stands with hand over heart when it's played in a public gathering. I was taught that when I was young. It was a part of our upbringing. This thread started out because of a team's no show courtside before a game. Maybe that's not common, but it's not unusual.
Playing the NA isn't codified. It's not required. I do get miffed by the apparent disinterest going on around me by some fans at games, but there are some who just don't care as much as I do. I'll withhold comments about protesters. Different subject.
Playing the NA isn't codified. It's not required. I do get miffed by the apparent disinterest going on around me by some fans at games, but there are some who just don't care as much as I do. I'll withhold comments about protesters. Different subject.
You are asking me to read the minds of those that don’t stand. As I CLEARLY STATED I DO. I would again say standing for the anthem is a poor assessment of who loves this country. But for you it seems to be the only qualifier for love of country, a very myopic view and standard.
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Funny how you left out the most cogent piece of the article. Did you think we wouldn’t read it?
The majority of our players has sat during the playing of the national anthem every game this season – a decision made by our players to bring awareness to racial injustice in our country. If opposing teams choose to play the anthem during the time we’re in the locker room, then we choose to stay in the locker room.
I talked to [South Carolina associate] Coach Lisa Boyer about this on Wednesday. She told me, ‘I love our country. That’s why I stand, because I love our country. I wouldn’t want to live in any other country.’
I love our country, too. I don’t like what our country has come to, or what our country has been, but I’d like to think that there are people in our country that’s going to lead us more in a unified way than a divisive way, and I’m here for that.
Sorry Bud, that happened one time and it was not intentional. So keep digging son! I’m sure you will eventually come up with something or at least the truth about the game with Louisville!!
You skipped right over this paragraph to try to make your own point. Am I misreading this? Is it incorrect? Mind you, I support their rights and I'm not trying to score points. I'm just trying to get the facts. If this article is wrong, then I'd like to know what as well.
Gamecocks head coach Dawn Staley and her team have been protesting the national anthem in some form for more than a year. They’ve remained in the locker room for the national anthem all season long.
I'm just trying to establish fact here. This article says the same. If they're both wrong, I'd like to know that as well.Sorry Bud, that happened one time and it was not intentional. So keep digging son! I’m sure you will eventually come up with something or at least the truth about the game with Louisville!!
Video: National Anthem At Women's National Title Game Going Viral
It looks like we'll be in for a fun second half at the NCAA Tournament women's national title game on Sunday night. South Carolina, the No. 1 team all season,
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If memory serves me correctly, the National Anthem was play +10 minutes before tipoff of the Louisville game when our team was still in the locker room going through their pregame ritual. No one informed our staff of this decision! Next thing you know some young reporter got a hold of this and the pot was stirred. What sporting event do you go to or watch and the National Anthem is played then the teams or gladiators continue to do 5 or 7 minutes of warmups Bottomline the pregame clock hits triple zeros, all introductions are made and next it’s let get it on time!I'm just trying to establish fact here. This article says the same. If they're both wrong, I'd like to know that as well.
Video: National Anthem At Women's National Title Game Going Viral
It looks like we'll be in for a fun second half at the NCAA Tournament women's national title game on Sunday night. South Carolina, the No. 1 team all season,
Yes, I'm not really talking about that game. These articles both claim or imply they did it most of that season.
The game I attended as a season ticket holder was either a sit or take a knee thing! I can only tell you what I saw!!
I'm just trying to establish fact here. This article says the same. If they're both wrong, I'd like to know that as well.
Video: National Anthem At Women's National Title Game Going Viral
It looks like we'll be in for a fun second half at the NCAA Tournament women's national title game on Sunday night. South Carolina, the No. 1 team all season,
From Fox News
www.foxcarolina.com
Coach Dawn Staley says reports of national anthem protest ‘full of untruths’
After their National Championship win Sunday night, Coach Dawn Staley set the record straight.
www.foxcarolina.com
That's about one game. I'm talking about the season. Again, from both those articles:From Fox News
Coach Dawn Staley says reports of national anthem protest ‘full of untruths’
After their National Championship win Sunday night, Coach Dawn Staley set the record straight.
Gamecocks head coach Dawn Staley and her team have been protesting the national anthem in some form for more than a year. They’ve remained in the locker room for the national anthem all season long.
If that's wrong, fine. But I didn't just make it up.
No you don’t make it up just refuse to look at context and believe the coach’s word
I think you're believing what you want to believe. I respectfully agree to disagree.
I think you're believing what you want to believe. I respectfully agree to disagree.
I've read that when Bud Grant coached the Vikings, they would have "National Anthem practice."
Which leads me to believe that it was common for players to be on the field for the National Anthem. My question is when did it stop?
