Clearly when Cael talked about doing what's best for his team, he was at least partially referring to the lack of wisdom of having guys wrestle an intense tournament in November. He has a system that builds up his guys so that they're at their peak in March. Why would he change that?
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I feel like Brock Hardy and S Allred have been wrestling in NCAA for almost as long as Logan Massa (34 years)
The entire season is designed to peak in mid March. He also will just drill their rear-ends into the ground and then send them out to compete against top end talent expecting them to overcome fatigue to win. He doesn't design anything to peak against Iowa, but he never sends a tired team out to grapple the Hawks. I love a fresh Lion team wrestling Hawks. The beatings are so severe it causes severe reactions like the Iowa money man to give central PA high school juniors 5 million bucks.
if it is scrapes and cuts... worth it bc of how it shows you how you have to mentally prepare... I am not aware of more serious injuries???? I think Ryder will benefit from this... He will learn that people are not going to lay down bc Zach Ryder walked out on the matt.... Even Ferrari for that matter... should learn that he needs some offense to go with his elite defense. Overall great event in my opinion. I feel like PSU gets some intel on our opponents that is going to take them weeks to get on us! So feel like Cael is playing chess!
The entire season is designed to peak in mid March. He also will just drill their rear-ends into the ground and then send them out to compete against top end talent expecting them to overcome fatigue to win. He doesn't design anything to peak against Iowa, but he never sends a tired team out to grapple the Hawks. I love a fresh Lion team wrestling Hawks. The beatings are so severe it causes severe reactions like the Iowa money man to give central PA high school juniors 5 million bucks.
Great point. Spartan Grammarly fixed it even further for you.
Great point. Spartan Grammarly fixed it even further for you.
One should always reduce unnecessary words for clarity.
One should always
Agree with you on Iowa and the finals match but to be fair, they did wrestle well against Okie State in the semis.. That was fun to watch..
Did he dick something up, like a lung transfer?
Hmmmmm..... Iowa had less than 10 takedowns for the whole team against OK State. I don't think that adds up to much fun.
Most of this episode of BaschAMania is focused on the National Duals, so I'm placing this in here.
:00 - Intro & National Duals Overall Thoughts
12:00 - The Freshmen Shine
17:54 - Reviewing the Action, Starting with Oklahoma State/Cornell
23:20 - Iowa vs Missouri
30:45 - NC State vs Northern Iowa
33:33 - Nebraska vs Lehigh
35:35 - Minnesota vs Virginia Tech, Ohio State/Wyoming
38:00 - Iowa vs Illinois
40:20 - Oklahoma State vs NC State
47:20 - Ohio State vs Minnesota
50:13 - Nebraska vs Michigan
54:10 - Iowa/Oklahoma State
55:50 - Jax Forrest Wrestling Second Semester at Oklahoma State
01:12:00 - Ohio State Dominates Nebraska
01:19:30 - Nebraska Stock Down?
01:23:00 - Ohio State Dominates Iowa in the Finals 27-12
01:31:20 - Some Overall Weight Thoughts
01:34:15 - Reading the Chat
01:40:00 - Penn State Dominates & Other Weekend Results
01:49:10 - After Show
:00 - Intro & National Duals Overall Thoughts
12:00 - The Freshmen Shine
17:54 - Reviewing the Action, Starting with Oklahoma State/Cornell
23:20 - Iowa vs Missouri
30:45 - NC State vs Northern Iowa
33:33 - Nebraska vs Lehigh
35:35 - Minnesota vs Virginia Tech, Ohio State/Wyoming
38:00 - Iowa vs Illinois
40:20 - Oklahoma State vs NC State
47:20 - Ohio State vs Minnesota
50:13 - Nebraska vs Michigan
54:10 - Iowa/Oklahoma State
55:50 - Jax Forrest Wrestling Second Semester at Oklahoma State
01:12:00 - Ohio State Dominates Nebraska
01:19:30 - Nebraska Stock Down?
01:23:00 - Ohio State Dominates Iowa in the Finals 27-12
01:31:20 - Some Overall Weight Thoughts
01:34:15 - Reading the Chat
01:40:00 - Penn State Dominates & Other Weekend Results
01:49:10 - After Show
The BS talk has officially begun. On Christian Pyles podcast directly following the Duals last evening, one of his compatriots in reviewing the OSU v Iowa match made reference to Penn State. He offered that he can "see a way"
that OSU wins the first four bouts vs PSU. The gauntlet has been laid down!!
that OSU wins the first four bouts vs PSU. The gauntlet has been laid down!!
6-4 is best case scenario for ohio St. 9-1 is the worst. My opinion it's probably a 7-3 dual
On balance how can you not love the excitement and matchups this event delivered. Very entertaining, especially during what has traditionally been a yawn-fest month for the wrestling season.
Given it's only mid-November, how many of the shockers may have markedly different results in January let alone March? I saw rust on some whole others were amazingly shiny and new. Lots of freshman excelling. Even a guy like Buzakis. No signs of a tough cut or gassing, he may have found his ideal weight, and you have to admit the kid is dangerous. Raises the anticipation for a bout with Luke. I feel confident.
I really appreciated how much fun you can have as a fan to just focus on watching great wrestling without having to get fixated on our guys or the result. Most of the rest of the nation didn't get that treat.
I remain good with us punting indefinitely.
Given it's only mid-November, how many of the shockers may have markedly different results in January let alone March? I saw rust on some whole others were amazingly shiny and new. Lots of freshman excelling. Even a guy like Buzakis. No signs of a tough cut or gassing, he may have found his ideal weight, and you have to admit the kid is dangerous. Raises the anticipation for a bout with Luke. I feel confident.
I really appreciated how much fun you can have as a fan to just focus on watching great wrestling without having to get fixated on our guys or the result. Most of the rest of the nation didn't get that treat.
I remain good with us punting indefinitely.
let me guess - JD Rader. I’m only 11 minutes in, so haven’t got there yet.
Just about anything is hypothetically possible, but if we're talking about a .5% chance, I'm not going to lose sleep over it. 141 is the only weight in the first 4 where tOSU would be favored.
Could Ohio State win the 1st 4 bouts against us? It’s not insane to ponder, but I’m not picking it ever.
McCrone pinned Luke last year and Bouzakis can seemingly pin anyone (or lose badly). I do think Luke is the more consistent guy among the 3 and has gained strength and confidence since that fall.
Blaze is 3-0 vs Davino in Freestyle. 7-0 at the 2025 open, and 5-2 & 6-3 in the finals at 2024 U20 WTT. Davino did win in UTB at the 2023 Ironman finals. Blaze is the favorite but favorites don’t always win.
Mendez is a clear favorite.
149 seems the biggest stretch. Stiles has improved. But Shayne is 11-0 vs common opponents (Stiles, 4-5) and he pinned Stiles (and four of the five common foes who beat him) last year at NCAAs.
McCrone pinned Luke last year and Bouzakis can seemingly pin anyone (or lose badly). I do think Luke is the more consistent guy among the 3 and has gained strength and confidence since that fall.
Blaze is 3-0 vs Davino in Freestyle. 7-0 at the 2025 open, and 5-2 & 6-3 in the finals at 2024 U20 WTT. Davino did win in UTB at the 2023 Ironman finals. Blaze is the favorite but favorites don’t always win.
Mendez is a clear favorite.
149 seems the biggest stretch. Stiles has improved. But Shayne is 11-0 vs common opponents (Stiles, 4-5) and he pinned Stiles (and four of the five common foes who beat him) last year at NCAAs.
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I guess not impossible. I have a feeling we'll get more takedowns than the Hawkeyes did in those 4 matches although if I wrestled all 4 weights I could at least tie that output.
You're being polite by saying that 149 seems the biggest stretch. Pyles needs thicker glasses.
Thanks for posting these Tom. Since I am not one that wants to ‘grow the sport via Flo PPV', this was a great way to see these highlight videos. I really enjoyed the Feldman AJ Ferrari match.
Paycom guy announced during his interview last evening that they’ve already booked the BOK Center for the same weekend next November.
Cael ain’t going next year either for the same reasons he didn’t go this year.
If Ohio State has a good night 8-2 PSU, and less than 5 PSU bonus points. So something around 28 - 6.
I will add that Aaron does have two wins over Mendez, although Jesse has shown considerable improvement since his freshman year, and I’m not sure we’ve yet seen compelling evidence that Aaron has matched it.
I’ve got a visit to Gallagher IBA Arena on my bucket list. I’d love to see PSU @ Oklahoma State at least once in person. If not, this early season tournament might make sense too.
Let's take a look at it:
125: Luke vs Bouzakis
Luke is definitely the favorite but Bouzakis has a punchers chance with his pinning ability.
133: Blaze vs Davino
Past results in favor Blaze but we all saw what Davino did to Ayala. That was destruction. This will be an interesting match.
141: Nagao vs Mendez
Mendez is the heavy favorite and should bonus. (I'm tossing Nagao results vs Mendez his freshman year. Mendez is a completely different animal now.)
149: Van Ness vs Stiles
Van Ness is the heavy favorite and should bonus (has a pin last season)
157: Duke vs Cannon
We haven't seen Duke wrestle folkstyle at this level yet and Cannon is no slouch. I'd pick Duke but it's not crazy talk to say Cannon has a chance.
165: Mitch vs it doesn't matter
Obligatory TF
174: Haines vs Kharchla
Haines is the heavy favorite and could bonus
184: Welsh vs Fishback
Welsh is the favorite, bonus unlikely (Fishback has given up bonus just once - to Keckeisen)
197: Barr vs Shumate
Barr is the heavy favorite and should bonus (has a TF last season)
Heavy: Feldman vs Mirasola
Feldman is a heavy favorite, possible bonus
The baseline is 8-2 Penn State. With anOSU's best other chances at 133 and 157 and a yolo chance at 125.
Duke is really nasty in folk style
Here he is bumping up in weight to beat Lockett a few years back
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I don't think Nagao is beating Mendez, but I do think it is much more likely Nagao beats Mendez than Feldman bonuses Mirasola.