Pitt should be great and at one point was pretty darn good, Rex Perry era. However, other than having a wrestling program the Pitt administration, nor Athletics leadership and obviously the monied alumni don't give a hoot about wrestling. Rutgers with their attendance numbers seem to actually care about wrestling.
National Duals, '25, thread
- Thread starter Tom McAndrew
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Facundo stuck. Swiderski also lost again. Where is the magic?
DT has a stable of freshman thoroubreds. It's everyone on his roster that isn't a freshman that seems to be holding them down. Lol
Zack Ryder 2-1 over a career backup
He's not athletic enough lol
And on a suspect stalling point, taboot. How we feeling about the Ryder/Welsh move now?
I wouldn’t dunk too hard on DT yet. It’s still November, “National Tournament” or not.
Idk, he looks like early career Carter. He isn’t beating Mitchell, but he’s damn solid in all positions.
Anyone see how Iowa’s 197lb is looking, I think he was D3 champ and curious how he is performing .
AJF 11-3 over AA and #4 Taye Ghadiali is impressive
Tom Ryan “Duals are the crown jewel of our sport.” In front of a four digit crowd. The crown jewel over an event that is broadcast on ESPN, can draw over 100K over 3 days, and is currently selling suites for almost $100K.
@LemonPie unfortunately these clowns supporting this event are trying to torpedo the real crown jewel. That’s why Cael needs to keep doing what he’s doing.
He also said “I’ve been in this sport for 33 years and I’m not leaving until I see a National Dual Champion crowned. You guys (FLO), we all pulling the same way.” Of course FLO is. They don’t get to broadcast the real Nationals.
A bunch of self-serving hypocrites masquerading as in it for the good of the sport.
@LemonPie unfortunately these clowns supporting this event are trying to torpedo the real crown jewel. That’s why Cael needs to keep doing what he’s doing.
He also said “I’ve been in this sport for 33 years and I’m not leaving until I see a National Dual Champion crowned. You guys (FLO), we all pulling the same way.” Of course FLO is. They don’t get to broadcast the real Nationals.
A bunch of self-serving hypocrites masquerading as in it for the good of the sport.
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Six of the 8 quarterfinalists are B1G teams. Think there's a point about wrestling people PSU is already scheduled to wrestle in this tourney?
Vega and Lockett looking pretty good but Robideau is the best freshmen on that team. Kid looks damn good. PJ still a level above
Trust in Cael. I love being wrong.
BTW - I never said anything about Facundo other than I am happy for his finding somewhere good to be a starter.
Chael was anointing him as a finalist.
Alex must save his best stuff for the room and just mentally shift gears (down) in matches. His highschool career was so frigging good. 0-2 today, yikes.
BTW - I never said anything about Facundo other than I am happy for his finding somewhere good to be a starter.
Chael was anointing him as a finalist.
Alex must save his best stuff for the room and just mentally shift gears (down) in matches. His highschool career was so frigging good. 0-2 today, yikes.
Fishback wrestled McEnelly really tough. Was in deep on a shot in OT but Max defended and then scored on a beautiful shot. 184 is insane this year
He looked really good. He had a pin and Major. I don't know how good his competition was.
Alex Facundo would have pinned me in 15 secs when I was at my best.
That said, at the level at which he competes, he takes way too many straight on shots, from what I’ve seen, and clearing the arms doesn’t make it anything other than a straight on shot.
To take it even further, I feel like I’ve seen the same from other Michigan wrestlers.
All would have destroyed me, mind you, but I never tried to compete at their level.
When Ryder first transferred everyone here was like “ Wish u da best except when u face PSU.” I think “ Ty for ur time here but don’t go off having a better career then Welsh.” Woulda been more accurate
Yeah. It’s complicated. Outside of diceman, no one posting here knows the story. We were excited for Ryder’s recruitment and confused by his leaving. Others that were here when another high-level wrestler arrived stayed and competed for the spot. So yeah - some of us are looking for justification that we needed to bring Welsh in at the expense of losing Ryder.
Say it again louder...A bunch of self-serving hypocrites
He pinned Intermat #15 Bates from Missouri in 2:22. Not sure of score at the time.
Sounds like this is a decent event for wrestling junkies. I am shocked at the number of people trying to promote the event.......by bitching about PSU not being there. This is moronic at best. Talk about the great early season tests, match ups of returning stars and newcomers everyone is excited to see. Be positive. Just not positive you are pissed off because PSU isn't there. Of course most of these talking heads ( non coaches ) just want clicks. Ignore them.
Grow the sport......laughable. You are up against football. Most high school kids have matches.
PSU should go next year with starters and backups. Every backup gets at least one go. Win the thing, take the money and go home.
Grow the sport......laughable. You are up against football. Most high school kids have matches.
PSU should go next year with starters and backups. Every backup gets at least one go. Win the thing, take the money and go home.
For those of you that were able to catch today's action what team is favorite going into semis? Iowa vs ok st should be exciting.
I’m convinced the Oklahoma home meet, even without the 200 level open at BJC, was more profitable than participation in national duals.
I like taking shots at DT probably more than anyone but ultimately he’ll be judged on this years freshman and recruits going forward. He’ll replace Ryder, Facundo, Swinderski if needed. He might replace Figs tomorrow even.
Fair enough, I’m not gonna pretend to know what’s going on behind the scenes, but hard for me to believe that coaches don’t know what they have in the NCAA event. I don’t think there is a collective effort to replace it. Tom Ryan is very obviously a mental case and I doubt anyone is looking to him as some ambassador for the NCAA product, but maybe I’m naive. To me, this event is nothing more than a revenue experiment with the added value of bringing eyes to Okie St.
They are probably losing money on this,
so I’m Interested to see where they go from here, but i still want to see PSU have a part in it.
Nailed it, I didn't quite know the particulars but for a while I've heard a lot of dummy say about growing the sport always means I need to make more money from the sport.
And Penn State is a huge big meanie because they won't help me make more money off the sport.
If anyone says grow the sport they are either dumb fans who just wanna see good matches or they're very hypocritical and they won Penn State to help promote them so they make more money..
I believe it was mentioned before, but put it 3rd week of December and I'd wager Penn State attends. With all the free style competition dates second week of November is just too early, IMO.
Guys this is a great thread and I absolutely enjoy everything on it...but can SOMEONE ACTUALLY POST THE MATCH BY MATCH RESULTS?
I detest Flo and refuse to give them one cent of my money, so I really have no idea who has won or lost
I detest Flo and refuse to give them one cent of my money, so I really have no idea who has won or lost
Yes, and let's stick a fork in "PSU should go" and "PSU should send backups."
This event will always be the zombie national championship, even long after Ryan and Manning retire. Why enable that idea to keep coming back from the dead?
I see your point, but I wouldn't mind it around the 3rd week of December. There is a lot of duplication with the big ten schedule though.
Non-wrestling fans are almost never watching wrestling. Anytime anyone talks about growing a sport they are an idiot or they would benefit financially from what they're pushing for.
The Olympic sports were a huge thing very early in my life, I was born in 1963. They've been on the down slide since then.
Wrestling has grown nicely recently but it's always going to be a niche sport.