Chicago has strict gun laws which holds back a lot of shootings there. :sunglasses:
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Chicago has strict gun laws which holds back a lot of shootings there. :sunglasses:
Well, while I understand her point, she is simply wrong. Washington led the Revolutionary Army, is widely recognized as the father of the country and Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, and both were presidents. They didn't wage war to tear the country apart (like the Confederate generals did). I don't necessarily think being a slave owner in the 1700s, when it was common practice, should negate every other act in your lifetime. Are we going to start blowing up our own history, like ISIS is doing to their ancient structures in their occupied Caliphate? There is a line to be drawn somewhere.
As I stated earlier, it is clearly a slippery slope. Princeton University is either studying taking Woodrow Wilson's name off of one of their buildings, or has already decided to do so, because of his racist views, and he was President of both Princeton and the US. That too is ill advised. At least IMO.
This is something a lot of people aren't understanding. It really is an apples and oranges comparison. Washington and Jefferson may have been slave owners but both served as key parts of the creation of this free nation. At best, the confederate monument is a participation trophy to the losing side in a war against the United States. At worst, they are a scarecrow to black citizens. Either way, there is no logical excuse to support them.
Fact are facts. You may not know there is data and lists for this kind of info. I'm sorry it makes you feel bad but the truth is not an insult it's just a bad situation. You from Kentucky? BTW I checked this years listing and we have jumped to 46th! A veritable galaxy of geniuses.
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Geography determines IQ.
Trump is a New Yorker which makes him far more intelligent than Lincoln.
If you guys want to believe they're attacking confederate memorials because of "treason", well then you're just rationalizing.
It ain't because of treason, it's because of slavery, that's it. Were you guys in a cave after Roof killed those people in Charleston?
When they get all the confederate monuments down they'll move to founding fathers, just wait. Because it's about slavery.
What kind of monument Charlottesville VA or Paducah KY has up is no one outside those communities business.
It ain't because of treason, it's because of slavery, that's it. Were you guys in a cave after Roof killed those people in Charleston?
When they get all the confederate monuments down they'll move to founding fathers, just wait. Because it's about slavery.
What kind of monument Charlottesville VA or Paducah KY has up is no one outside those communities business.
Most of the early US Presidents owned slaves. Even Grant owned one prior to the war who he freed in 1857.
Out of control health care costs
Opiod crises, methamphetamine
Lack of work ethic in the country exacerbated by social policies
Islamic extremism
Nuclear proliferation
Long term expansionist goals by the Chinese
Aging population
And we're consumed by a bunch of statues that have been up for a hundred years or more????
Out of control health care costs
Opiod crises, methamphetamine
Lack of work ethic in the country exacerbated by social policies
Islamic extremism
Nuclear proliferation
Long term expansionist goals by the Chinese
Aging population
And we're consumed by a bunch of statues that have been up for a hundred years or more????
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It's about identity politics and victim mentality, which is about all the left has in their arsenal these days. The "progressives" will not stop until they have destroyed America and have installed a Marxist government.
Wake up, you can't reason with these people. Go ahead, take down all the confederate statues. Do you really think THAT will satisfy them? It's not even their goal.
Wake up, you can't reason with these people. Go ahead, take down all the confederate statues. Do you really think THAT will satisfy them? It's not even their goal.
Only 40% of African Americans want statues to come down and less than half of Dems want them to come down. But, pls continue your terrible argument to bend over backwards to insult everyone from KY. Just stellar. I could also show you some awesome maps of transition from 2008 to now if you need them.
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yep, Lexington dealt with it
yep, very reasonable and warrented wanting them to come down but there is a slippery cliff staring at the left on this and they have no way of holding it back.
Nope, that is just a start. Some have been saying that white people are the problem too so, when the statues are gone they will come for you. This is all that the left has and they are milking it for what is worth. They really don't seem to care about what happens to America. Wiping out our history to start anew is what I think is their goal. Be careful what you ask for liberals. When you eliminate a lot of hard working people who pay a lot of taxes, none will be left to support your system and you will eventually have to do it yourself with a lot less benefits.
Amazing, isn't it? Why is left wing violence off limits to talk about? There are tons of examples of violence from BLM and ANTIFA. I'd break my fingers typing them all out.
I'm glad Trump called out both sides in Charlottesville. It obviously touched a nerve with all the right people.
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Let me give you a few examples of the left's "slippery slope" (and how they brainwash decent democrats over time).
1. Normal democrat: Hey, I think all the pollution we humans produce is not good in the long run. Maybe we should recycle??
Slippery slope leftist: I have a better idea..... Let's tax the **** out of everyone's carbon footprint and if people disagree we will call them earth-hating republicans who want us all to die of sun posioning.
Normal democrat: well, I don't want to be part of the earth hating republicans who want us all to die, so okay.
2. Normal democrat: (once they were finally brainwashed into accepting gay marriage, culminating with Obama's change of heart around 2010). Hey, you know, if you love someone you should be able marry them no matter who it is.
Slippery slope leftist: GREAT! Now let's make sure girls with dicks can go to their preferred bathroom. And let's teach our elementary school kids that it's perfectly okay to want a dick if you don't have one. Or get rid of it if you do have one. And if you ain't cool with that, well, you must be a gay hating, transgender phobe republican who wants to kill all gays and transgendered people.
Normal democrat: well, who are we to judge anyway. Right?
3. Normal democrat: I mean, healthcare costs are out of control. Maybe we should get government involved.
Slippery slope leftist: Yes, yes. Let's do that. Wait, you know what? How about we just let the government run the whole God Damn thing? Single payor style. If you dont think that's a great idea, then you are an evil republican who wants kids dying in the streets.
Normal democrat: uh.... Yeah, I don't want that.
Coming soon.......
4. Normal democrat: I can understand wanting to remove confederate statues. They were treasonous, racist ******** after all.
Slippery slope leftist: that they were, normal democrat. That they were. You know who else were racist ********? Those white, racist founding fathers. Let's Get the bulldozer. If you don't like it you are nothing but a white privelaged, Christian racist who hates anyone not like you.
Normal democrat: well, when you put it that way.
There are many more examples of the slippery slope leftist, but I'm tired of typing. Long story short.... There aren't any normal democrats. They are not allowed to be.
1. Normal democrat: Hey, I think all the pollution we humans produce is not good in the long run. Maybe we should recycle??
Slippery slope leftist: I have a better idea..... Let's tax the **** out of everyone's carbon footprint and if people disagree we will call them earth-hating republicans who want us all to die of sun posioning.
Normal democrat: well, I don't want to be part of the earth hating republicans who want us all to die, so okay.
2. Normal democrat: (once they were finally brainwashed into accepting gay marriage, culminating with Obama's change of heart around 2010). Hey, you know, if you love someone you should be able marry them no matter who it is.
Slippery slope leftist: GREAT! Now let's make sure girls with dicks can go to their preferred bathroom. And let's teach our elementary school kids that it's perfectly okay to want a dick if you don't have one. Or get rid of it if you do have one. And if you ain't cool with that, well, you must be a gay hating, transgender phobe republican who wants to kill all gays and transgendered people.
Normal democrat: well, who are we to judge anyway. Right?
3. Normal democrat: I mean, healthcare costs are out of control. Maybe we should get government involved.
Slippery slope leftist: Yes, yes. Let's do that. Wait, you know what? How about we just let the government run the whole God Damn thing? Single payor style. If you dont think that's a great idea, then you are an evil republican who wants kids dying in the streets.
Normal democrat: uh.... Yeah, I don't want that.
Coming soon.......
4. Normal democrat: I can understand wanting to remove confederate statues. They were treasonous, racist ******** after all.
Slippery slope leftist: that they were, normal democrat. That they were. You know who else were racist ********? Those white, racist founding fathers. Let's Get the bulldozer. If you don't like it you are nothing but a white privelaged, Christian racist who hates anyone not like you.
Normal democrat: well, when you put it that way.
There are many more examples of the slippery slope leftist, but I'm tired of typing. Long story short.... There aren't any normal democrats. They are not allowed to be.
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Why do we honor Native Americans who fought losing wars against the United States?
Vietnam Vets were losers. Pretty sure they were war criminals, based on what the hippies tell me. How is it they get a monument again?
Serious questions.
The logical end of this: why follow rules made by white racists? Time to shred the constitution and capitalism.
These are nothing but communists.
I hate to tell y'all this, but the Monumental Bronze Co. pulled off an epic, EPIC, troll job back during the late 1880s-1890s regarding some of these statues. From the Washington Post:
At left, a Monumental Bronze Co. sculpture of a Union soldier, erected in Westfield, N.J., in 1889. On the right, a sculpture of a Confederate soldier, by the same company, erected in Windsor, N.C., in 1898.
At left, a Monumental Bronze Co. sculpture of a Union soldier, erected in Westfield, N.J., in 1889. On the right, a sculpture of a Confederate soldier, by the same company, erected in Windsor, N.C., in 1898.
I hate to tell y'all this, but the Monumental Bronze Co. pulled off an epic, EPIC, troll job back during the late 1880s-1890s regarding some of these statues. From the Washington Post:
At left, a Monumental Bronze Co. sculpture of a Union soldier, erected in Westfield, N.J., in 1889. On the right, a sculpture of a Confederate soldier, by the same company, erected in Windsor, N.C., in 1898.
that's just what people looked and dressed like back then man. not like they had outlet malls and amazon to choose from. kicking the ole jacket out to the right was prolly just 1890s styling. lol
on a serious note, it's time for the Colosseum in Italy to come down! it's literally where slaves where forced to fight slaves to the death. can't leave that thing up.
but wait? do European slaves lives matter?
but wait? do European slaves lives matter?
Yes, the Colosseum must come down. Also need to pay reparations to Christians. My half Native American wife is also going to need reparations. The white men nearly wiped out her entire tribe. They can't even afford to build a decent casino.
And let's not forget the great pyramids in Egypt ... bring those MFers down immediately! They're offensive!!!
We can't expect to develop a responsible working society with all these triggers still standing.
And let's not forget the great pyramids in Egypt ... bring those MFers down immediately! They're offensive!!!
We can't expect to develop a responsible working society with all these triggers still standing.
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Well said -- The United States isn't under and real threat from "Nazis"
But they're the ultimate boogie man aren't they??
Wanna know two funny things about the whole "Statue" thing?
There's a confederate general who has a statue right in D.C. - his name is Albert Pike and his statue won't even be MENTIONED by the Globalist controlled "marxist left"
Google it -- he's way to important to one of the Really Important ol' boys clubs for it to be seriously threatened......
Another funny thing?
All the Marxists and their enablers who are marching with the vague-and-never-very specific slogans centered on racial justice and all their various forms of "Down With Whitey" .....
they're all marching for European White Male ideas --- Socialism and even Communism
now....I'm laughing at both the utter IGNORANCE as well as the irony - believe me
It's pretty damn funny on many levels
Kinda like one of the Klan leaders of BLM holing up in a George Soros funded $16million mansion and talking about 'bringing it all down on the white males'
I don't have a problem with any skin tones -- hell, I"ve sampled most and loved the variety
BUT this **** is now so pitiful and transparent even the fence sitters on the "left" and "right" are starting to wake up.......
Final word (for now)
If the American public sit back and do NOTHING while the Far Left bring down a legally elected President -- then you can guarantee your multi-cu;rural *** that they're be more emboldened than ever
Next step will be to isolate 'reeducate' or even start to imprison anyone they consider "radical"
yet more irony huh?
At some point more and more 'normal danm americans' are going to realize it's better to stand up, push back -- and be ready to FIGHT for a Constitutional Republic
rather than to live in the net-communist state that these nitwits want to birth.....
****'s not even IMAGINATIVE --- American Marxists are not the thinkers and scholars that some of the Bolshevik bastards were.....our breed is also a LOT softer
by the way.....what ever happened to all those Menshevik Socialists who helped launch that Rvolution in Russia back in the early 20th century?
I mean -- it STARTED as a Socialist revolution too right?
You KNOW their asses got jailed into concentration camps, gunned down in cold blood OR converted to the "revolutionary movement" of the Communists right?
Their founding fathers DESIGNED Socialism so that it would "progress" into communism ...... (and communism was supposed to "progress" into government-less utopiaa......instead they gave their country men and neighbors 60 million exterminated peasants, workers, socialists, and other 'not so desirables')
There's a LOT about that **** that no one's telling you
I'm not prophet and I'm not an ideologue
But I have studied this from a historical and socio-political perspective
America is in the midst of a Socialist revolution right now
The new version -- if it ever gets off the ground - will be more Aldous Huxley than George Orwell (religion and spirituality will be more openly supported by THE STATE)
Are you ready for ABSOLUTE OBEDIENCE to people who don't believe in right/wrong/innocence/guilt/God/The afterlife or the human soul???
THATS what we want to profess too?
Giving lunatics more centralized power than we endured under Bush and Obama????
Reallyy now?
Over my dead body
***** *** communists aren't even man/woman/tranny enough to come out and march openly for who they are......cowards and hypocrites who are trying to revolt and hand **** over to little god-men and their forlorn, tired *** New World Order
"Progressive"
Not even a new word / concept for these asshats
Go back and look at the Spanish Civil War --- your progressives are ready to take the reigns and progress many of us into obsolescence......
Hell -- the Babylonians were more interesting and mystical about it at least
This country better
wake
the
hell
UP
Margaret Sanger still has her racist bust in the Smithsonian doesn't she?
She was down with eugenics and racial purity before the Nazi's were
She was more than re any to eliminate "human weeds" and have the State provide forced sterilization.....BECAUSE SHE CARES SO DAMN MUCH YA KNOW???
When the Left agrees to take her sorry *** bust out of all public buildings
THEN MAYBE we can talk
By the way -- it's not so much the STATUES they're eliminated as much as it is
HISTORY
They don't want you getting curious and looking back to see if ANY OF THIS GODFOPRSAKEN ******** HAS EVER HAPPENED BEFORE
The American Confederacy shouldn't be idolized
BUT one of the most important questions they raised never really gets the air time it should get
-- the right to seceded ---- just ask California.....they seem to think they can go down that route without being invaded and subjugated (Texas has done the same thing before as well - Alaska talked about it but it was mostly for better cable TV and weed/rights ....)
SO if your nation goes totally off the damn rails
And starts bombing other nations and destabilizing entire regions
Acting like a drunken, cross eyed, malevolent marine on shore leave......
Then doesn't your state have to DO SOMETHING?
Yes - as do the people
But according to Mr Lincoln and many decades of history since -- you can't QUIT THE CLUB, CALI
Besides -- for every isolated pocket of rural / rebel flag waving backwards racist I've seen
I've seen MANY more egregious manifestations of racism over seas --- **** that would make even the hardest of American Marxist cry on their panties
WE have "first world problems" for the most part
And you need to keep a close eye on those who are patting you on the back and tickling your ears about how much they love your diversity and how much they want to tolerate you straight into JUSTICE
they're using blacks, latinos, gays and a few others as 'Vanguard Political Groups"
and the globalist cash that arms those human social battering rams -- is more deeply SUPREMACIST than anyone you're going to find in KY
Watch out now --
This ****'s about to pick up stream
Love someone purposely tomorrow
But be ready to stand your ground when you encounter magical, brain washed street rabble
and when/if this **** really DOES GO SIDEWAYS
I believe 100% that a ***-ton of armed and fed up people will go around the idiots in the streets for the most part -- go for the sick *** puppeteers who have been egging this on for decades so they can GORGE THEMSELVES even more
You want to tear it all down?
Then you need to be ready to deal with the ENORMOUS NUMERICAL SUPERIORITY that exists outside of the narrow minded confines of Marxism, Communism and their pets
There are PLENTY of intelligent, Traditional Leftists who see what time it is as well
Don't be shy now
I'll give credit, that's the real slippery slope. Jefferson wrote about a democracy being able to vote it's own end and I suppose we would have to abide by a legal vote.........probably...?...maybe.
I've had to deal with several people fresh from India before and agree, the average 'murcan is an amateur. We should have nowhere near the volume of drama we do. I normally don't get too vocal but this is one that I've always had a problem with.
Everyone is going to have to determine their own line in the sand, in both directions. Everyone should have a pretty good idea of where that is already. You folks see my opinion here but in Bizarro world paddock I would look like one of this paddock's resident 'wingers.
So, California can secede? South Carolina could not. The Ag area of California has no interest in being governed by the coastal region. Would they be denied their right to secede from California?
Yes there are but the culture they created will not allow ANY disagreement or challenge. Zero.
Los Angeles TimesVerified account@latimes
Traveler, USC's mascot, comes under scrutiny for having a name similar to Robert E. Lee's horse http://lat.ms/2waD1KZ
[QUOTE="qwesley, post: 6073122, member: 1800"
]Yes there are but the culture they created will not allow ANY disagreement or challenge. Zero.
Los Angeles TimesVerified account@latimes
Traveler, USC's mascot, comes under scrutiny for having a name similar to Robert E. Lee's horse http://lat.ms/2waD1KZ[/QUOTE]
They should take that as a personal challenge then - as should any well intentioned citizen who's also ready to take the keys from the nutters who are trying their best to steer the ship into the rocks
And as they openly talk / plan for secession-- no one is referring to their activities as "anti government "
Funny huh ?
Hell --secession is THE MOST anti-government thing you can DO isn't or?
Ps - anyone else remember the brits who threatened to get even with
American activists who supported the Scottish secession movement - they openly mused about getting even by --- fostering a secession movement --in California
Haaaa yeah
Yep.....it would be great if people were as passionate about these issues as they are ****BLEEPING**** statues and flags......
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So suddenly - there are naZis everywhere
ANY chance that Soros (et al) would Fund ppl like that to spur on the Hegelian Dialectic?
ANY chance that Soros (et al) would Fund ppl like that to spur on the Hegelian Dialectic?
Yep, everywhere. The nazi population has risen 145,000% within in a week.
Just saw 25 of them drinking their triple chocolate lattes at Starbucks this morning. I am scared to go grocery shopping.
I have a simple solution to "monumentgate". Simply caption each monument to say "This is a historical replica of _______" If it's put in a historical context that removes any advocacy of an unpopular policy associated with it like slavery.
As an example, we have the Holocaust Museum in DC. It isn't there to honor the Holocaust but simply to educate visitors of the history behind it. The monuments allow people to understand the history of the civil war and learn about the participants and the issues, without being an "advocate" of anything we consider evil today.
We have extraordinary issues facing the country, and there is at least some bipartisan support for things like tax reform and infrastructure. It seems insane to me, to be wasting so much oxygen over something as silly as arguing over statues. Need to simply recognize the history and the fact that the history will not change no matter how many statues are removed, and move on to the more important things we face.
As an example, we have the Holocaust Museum in DC. It isn't there to honor the Holocaust but simply to educate visitors of the history behind it. The monuments allow people to understand the history of the civil war and learn about the participants and the issues, without being an "advocate" of anything we consider evil today.
We have extraordinary issues facing the country, and there is at least some bipartisan support for things like tax reform and infrastructure. It seems insane to me, to be wasting so much oxygen over something as silly as arguing over statues. Need to simply recognize the history and the fact that the history will not change no matter how many statues are removed, and move on to the more important things we face.
Why are all the Neo Nazis needing to be heard now? In one case the same person was shown to be Antifa and Neo Nazi. One Neo Nazi leader is ex Antifa as well.
Someone needs to look into funding.
Someone needs to look into funding.
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