Nazi's are National Socialists...

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and Commies are international socialists and what do they have in common? They're both on the left side of the political spectrum, you guys own both...so when you call conservatives Nazi's are you ignorant of this FACT or are you lying because you're embarrassed that you side with two of the deadliest political ideologies in the history of mankind?
 

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I'm constantly amazed at the delusion from the right. Never admit mistakes, always act like you know it all, blame everything bad on people that don't think like you, proclaim everything that matches with your ideology as American and everything that doesn't as unAmerican.

Enjoy your time in the sun. It's not lasting long, and soon it will gone for good.
 

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Keep attempting to re-write history and political science all you want.....but the Nazi's were RIGHT-WING politics. Far left = Communism.....Far Right = Fascism

You guys get thrown off by the simplest terms, like "socialism" and automatically connect it to communism. So sad.......
 

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Keep attempting to re-write history and political science all you want.....but the Nazi's were RIGHT-WING politics. Far left = Communism.....Far Right = Fascism

You guys get thrown off by the simplest terms, like "socialism" and automatically connect it to communism. So sad.......

Fascism is what we see on college campuses every day when conservative speakers are threatened and assaulted by extremists. Those extremists are Far left ideologues.
 

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Fascism is what we see on college campuses every day when conservative speakers are threatened and assaulted by extremists. Those extremists are Far left ideologues.
And the FOX talking points are seeds growing strong in the rich soils of stupidity.
 

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Keep attempting to re-write history and political science all you want.....but the Nazi's were RIGHT-WING politics. Far left = Communism.....Far Right = Fascism

You guys get thrown off by the simplest terms, like "socialism" and automatically connect it to communism. So sad.......

Hate to burst your bubble but what about the fascists stopping free speech on campus? Are they conservatives? No, but they surely are fascists.

NAZI does stand for National Socialist German Workers‘ Party. You do see the word, socialist, right? Let's look at Hitler's political policies for any further hints:

Brief Historical Background on Hitler…
Germany lost World War I. As such, Germany was in a state of economic and national depression. Not totally unusual for losing a giant war. But the depression was a long, drawn out one (15 years) leaving the German people poor, hungry, desperate, lacking any confidence. Then along came a young man named Adolf Hitler…

Hitler was a powerful and spellbinding speaker who attracted a wide following of Germans desperate for change. He promised the disenchanted a better life and a new and glorious Germany. The Nazis appealed especially to the unemployed, young people, and members of the lower middle class (small store owners, office employees, craftsmen, and farmers).

Human beings may advance technologically, but spiritually? Not so much. In fact I’d contest we rarely learn our lessons when choosing our leaders. Especially charismatic ones. If a man (or woman) can speak eloquently, with confidence, we cannot help but be enthralled. We often follow along, like the town’s children following the pied piper.

Employment for All
After that depression, Hitler made a huge promise to his people: employment for all. How did he do it? Roads and infrastructure:

As Fuhrer, Hitler’s first priority was jobs, or the lack of them. German unemployment had peaked at 6 million due to the Depression devastating the economy. With innovative public works schemes such as the building of autobahns, Hitler put every German back to work. He also advocated schemes such as KdF – Strength Through Joy – which gave workers increased benefits for increased levels of production. This policy was popular and increasingly with the proletariat who had seen their country decimated by the depression…

By putting people back to work and making huge public spending, inflation was bound to happen. However, Hitler kept this under control by not allowing wages to rise with prices. This may have been one unpopular aspect of Hitler’s economic policy but there were many that the people supported.

So Hitler created jobs…through government. While at the same time, he criticized certain segments of the population, demeaning them, blaming the countries woes upon them. The rich, they just ruin everything. Sound familiar?

Big Education
If you haven’t seen it yet, go watch WW2 Surivor’s Account Draws Chilling Similarities between Nazism and Liberalism.

When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers. You could take your children ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days a week, under the total care of the government. The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

Public education, where children are at school all day long, with state-funded and state-sponsored curriculum… convinced yet?

Nationalized Healthcare
Also from the WW2 Surivor’s accounting of Nazism:

After Hitler’s health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full. If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families. All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.

Do I really need to write commentary on this one? Really?

Gun Control
Yes, Germany had gun control. It started before Hitler with a national gun registry:

…in the 1920s in the chaos of Germany’s Weimar Republic, which opted for gun registration. Law-abiding persons complied with the law, but the Communists and Nazis committing acts of political violence did not.

Here’s what happened as a result:

In 1931, Weimar authorities discovered plans for a Nazi takeover in which Jews would be denied food and persons refusing to surrender their guns within 24 hours would be executed. They were written by Werner Best, a future Gestapo official. In reaction to such threats, the government authorized the registration of all firearms and the confiscation thereof, if required for “public safety.” The interior minister warned that the records must not fall into the hands of any extremist group.

Finally, Hitler just took the guns from Jews. An armed citizenry is a dangerous one, after all. Hitler even said this about guns in the hands of the people: “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms.”

In Breslau in 1933, Jews were ordered to “surrender [their] weapons forthwith to the police authorities” on the basis that “Jewish citizens have allegedly used their weapons for unlawful attacks on members of the Nazi organization and the police.” This was a regular occurrence all over Germany until the Waffengesetz of 1938, which effectively banned Jewish firearm ownership in all of Germany (though this had been something of a reality for a while, as in 1935 the Gestapo had ordered no weapons permits to be issued to Jews without the approval of the Gestapo itself).

So excuse us Second Amendment supporters when we here Obama, Sanders and Clinton talking about regulating guns more than they’re regulated today. Call us paranoid. We’ll keep our guns.

Abortion
The great sacrament of the left, abortion. You’ll be pleased to know that Hitler was pro-choice:

Dr. Tessa Chelouche goes on to quote Hitler’s 1942 policy statement on the application of abortion to Slavic people, which is chillingly similar to modern Planned Parenthood propaganda:

“In view of the large families of the Slav native population, it could only suit us if girls and women there had as many abortions as possible. We are not interested in seeing the non-German population multiply…We must use every means to instill in the population the idea that it is harmful to have several children, the expenses that they cause and the dangerous effect on woman’s health… It will be necessary to open special institutions for abortions and doctors must be able to help out there in case there is any question of this being a breach of their professional ethics.”

Compare the Nazi’s application of abortion to how Planned Parenthood (a government-funded organization) operates. Also read up on Margaret Sanger, who echoed much of Hitler’s sentiment.

Blaming the One Percent Jews
Hitler used the Jews as a scapegoat, blaming them for everything, including economic hardship, even though the Jewish population in Germany was less than one percent…

Jews in Germany made up less than one percent of the German population. But held According to the census of June 1933, the Jewish population of Germany consisted of about 500,000 people. Jews represented less than one percent of the total German population of about 67 million people.

Despite that, Hitler insisted on taking their money…

Nearly 120 billion Reich marks – over £12 billion at the time – was plundered from German Jews by laws and looting.

The official study commissioned by the ministry examined the years from 1933 to 1945. Hans-Peter Ullmann, a Cologne history professor, said the tax authorities under the Nazis actively worked to “destroy Jews financially” and to loot wealth in the nations the Germans occupied.

Even Jews who managed to escape from Germany before the Holocaust had to leave part of their wealth behind in the form of an “exit tax”. Tax laws discriminated against Jews from 1934 onwards.

And boycotting their businesses…

APRIL 1, 1933 NATIONWIDE BOYCOTT OF JEWISH-OWNED BUSINESSES
At 10:00 a.m., members of the Storm Troopers (SA) and SS (the elite guard of the Nazi state) stand in front of Jewish-owned businesses throughout Germany to inform the public that the proprietors of these establishments are Jewish. The word “Jude,” German for “Jew,” is often smeared on store display windows, with a Star of David painted in yellow and black across the doors. Anti-Jewish signs accompany these slogans. In some towns, the SA march through the streets singing anti-Jewish slogans and party songs.

Review: Hitler demeaned the Jews. He blamed the economic and national depression on them. He instituted national boycotts of their business. He then took their money through taxes and outright looting. Hey, maybe they weren’t paying their “fair share.”

The Police State
If you dared oppose the Nazis or Hitler politically, especially with your words, you better watch out. The Gestapo was on the hunt for political dissidents, many of whom would simply vanish.

SS chief Heinrich Himmler also turned the regular (nonparty) police forces into an instrument of terror. He helped forge the powerful Secret State Police (Geheime Staatspolizei), or Gestapo; these non-uniformed police used ruthless and cruel methods throughout Germany to identify and arrest political opponents and others who refused to obey laws and policies of the Nazi regime.

Compare the Gestapo with how leftists want to jail people who do not believe in man-made climate change. Compare the Gestapo to the Gaystapo, who fines people who do not agree with gay marriage or the gay lifestyle. Compare the Gestapo to liberal New York, which fines you for not using the right gender pronouns.

In Conclusion
Hitler was a horrible human being. But aside from how he treated the Jews, aside from his monsterous ways, his polcies were anything but “conservative.” He wanted big government, he wanted big eductation, he wanted thought control. He hated political dissidents. He loathed free-speech. He feared an armed citizenry.

So stop saying “Hitler was right-wing.” No, he wasn’t. If anything, he was a full-fledged left-winger. With a horrible mustache.
 
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What does anything I said have to do with Fox news? And tell me what is false about what I said?
Nothing is false, really. I think blocking ideas on a college campus is ridiculous......but it's not liberal thinking either.

FOX develops "talking points" derived directly from rightwing think tank strategy, these talking points are distributed to conservative news outlets, talk radio, and GOP lawmakers. The purpose of these "talking points" is to drive public opinion in favor of conservative and GOP support. It's actually a very effective strategy that has been at work for decades. The Dems can never get as organized as the right. The problem of blocking speakers is both ableft and right issue. Only the right doesn't use threats of violence and violent protests, but they do block certain graduation speakers through proper channels of student government at select institutions.

Its foolish from the college students to threaten violence, and only serves to hand conservatives a win in the big picture. But it is NOT an outright assault on free speech from liberals, that rhetoric is political commentary that is fanned by rightwing strategy.
 

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Nothing is false, really. I think blocking ideas on a college campus is ridiculous......but it's not liberal thinking either.

FOX develops "talking points" derived directly from rightwing think tank strategy, these talking points are distributed to conservative news outlets, talk radio, and GOP lawmakers. The purpose of these "talking points" is to drive public opinion in favor of conservative and GOP support. It's actually a very effective strategy that has been at work for decades. The Dems can never get as organized as the right. The problem of blocking speakers is both ableft and right issue. Only the right doesn't use threats of violence and violent protests, but they do block certain graduation speakers through proper channels of student government at select institutions.

Its foolish from the college students to threaten violence, and only serves to hand conservatives a win in the big picture. But it is NOT an outright assault on free speech from liberals, that rhetoric is political commentary that is fanned by rightwing strategy.

I agree with a lot of you say. However, I don't understand how you fail to see that the left does the same exact thing but on a much larger scale. The right has Fox and talk radio, the left has MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, Hollywood and academia.
 

Boomboom521

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Hate to burst your bubble but what about the fascists stopping free speech on campus? Are they conservatives? No, but they surely are fascists.

NAZI does stand for National Socialist German Workers‘ Party. You do see the word, socialist, right? Let's look at Hitler's political policies for any further hints:

Brief Historical Background on Hitler…
Germany lost World War I. As such, Germany was in a state of economic and national depression. Not totally unusual for losing a giant war. But the depression was a long, drawn out one (15 years) leaving the German people poor, hungry, desperate, lacking any confidence. Then along came a young man named Adolf Hitler…

Hitler was a powerful and spellbinding speaker who attracted a wide following of Germans desperate for change. He promised the disenchanted a better life and a new and glorious Germany. The Nazis appealed especially to the unemployed, young people, and members of the lower middle class (small store owners, office employees, craftsmen, and farmers).

Human beings may advance technologically, but spiritually? Not so much. In fact I’d contest we rarely learn our lessons when choosing our leaders. Especially charismatic ones. If a man (or woman) can speak eloquently, with confidence, we cannot help but be enthralled. We often follow along, like the town’s children following the pied piper.

Employment for All
After that depression, Hitler made a huge promise to his people: employment for all. How did he do it? Roads and infrastructure:

As Fuhrer, Hitler’s first priority was jobs, or the lack of them. German unemployment had peaked at 6 million due to the Depression devastating the economy. With innovative public works schemes such as the building of autobahns, Hitler put every German back to work. He also advocated schemes such as KdF – Strength Through Joy – which gave workers increased benefits for increased levels of production. This policy was popular and increasingly with the proletariat who had seen their country decimated by the depression…

By putting people back to work and making huge public spending, inflation was bound to happen. However, Hitler kept this under control by not allowing wages to rise with prices. This may have been one unpopular aspect of Hitler’s economic policy but there were many that the people supported.

So Hitler created jobs…through government. While at the same time, he criticized certain segments of the population, demeaning them, blaming the countries woes upon them. The rich, they just ruin everything. Sound familiar?

Big Education
If you haven’t seen it yet, go watch WW2 Surivor’s Account Draws Chilling Similarities between Nazism and Liberalism.

When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers. You could take your children ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days a week, under the total care of the government. The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

Public education, where children are at school all day long, with state-funded and state-sponsored curriculum… convinced yet?

Nationalized Healthcare
Also from the WW2 Surivor’s accounting of Nazism:

After Hitler’s health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full. If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families. All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.

Do I really need to write commentary on this one? Really?

Gun Control
Yes, Germany had gun control. It started before Hitler with a national gun registry:

…in the 1920s in the chaos of Germany’s Weimar Republic, which opted for gun registration. Law-abiding persons complied with the law, but the Communists and Nazis committing acts of political violence did not.

Here’s what happened as a result:

In 1931, Weimar authorities discovered plans for a Nazi takeover in which Jews would be denied food and persons refusing to surrender their guns within 24 hours would be executed. They were written by Werner Best, a future Gestapo official. In reaction to such threats, the government authorized the registration of all firearms and the confiscation thereof, if required for “public safety.” The interior minister warned that the records must not fall into the hands of any extremist group.

Finally, Hitler just took the guns from Jews. An armed citizenry is a dangerous one, after all. Hitler even said this about guns in the hands of the people: “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms.”

In Breslau in 1933, Jews were ordered to “surrender [their] weapons forthwith to the police authorities” on the basis that “Jewish citizens have allegedly used their weapons for unlawful attacks on members of the Nazi organization and the police.” This was a regular occurrence all over Germany until the Waffengesetz of 1938, which effectively banned Jewish firearm ownership in all of Germany (though this had been something of a reality for a while, as in 1935 the Gestapo had ordered no weapons permits to be issued to Jews without the approval of the Gestapo itself).

So excuse us Second Amendment supporters when we here Obama, Sanders and Clinton talking about regulating guns more than they’re regulated today. Call us paranoid. We’ll keep our guns.

Abortion
The great sacrament of the left, abortion. You’ll be pleased to know that Hitler was pro-choice:

Dr. Tessa Chelouche goes on to quote Hitler’s 1942 policy statement on the application of abortion to Slavic people, which is chillingly similar to modern Planned Parenthood propaganda:

“In view of the large families of the Slav native population, it could only suit us if girls and women there had as many abortions as possible. We are not interested in seeing the non-German population multiply…We must use every means to instill in the population the idea that it is harmful to have several children, the expenses that they cause and the dangerous effect on woman’s health… It will be necessary to open special institutions for abortions and doctors must be able to help out there in case there is any question of this being a breach of their professional ethics.”

Compare the Nazi’s application of abortion to how Planned Parenthood (a government-funded organization) operates. Also read up on Margaret Sanger, who echoed much of Hitler’s sentiment.

Blaming the One Percent Jews
Hitler used the Jews as a scapegoat, blaming them for everything, including economic hardship, even though the Jewish population in Germany was less than one percent…

Jews in Germany made up less than one percent of the German population. But held According to the census of June 1933, the Jewish population of Germany consisted of about 500,000 people. Jews represented less than one percent of the total German population of about 67 million people.

Despite that, Hitler insisted on taking their money…

Nearly 120 billion Reich marks – over £12 billion at the time – was plundered from German Jews by laws and looting.

The official study commissioned by the ministry examined the years from 1933 to 1945. Hans-Peter Ullmann, a Cologne history professor, said the tax authorities under the Nazis actively worked to “destroy Jews financially” and to loot wealth in the nations the Germans occupied.

Even Jews who managed to escape from Germany before the Holocaust had to leave part of their wealth behind in the form of an “exit tax”. Tax laws discriminated against Jews from 1934 onwards.

And boycotting their businesses…

APRIL 1, 1933 NATIONWIDE BOYCOTT OF JEWISH-OWNED BUSINESSES
At 10:00 a.m., members of the Storm Troopers (SA) and SS (the elite guard of the Nazi state) stand in front of Jewish-owned businesses throughout Germany to inform the public that the proprietors of these establishments are Jewish. The word “Jude,” German for “Jew,” is often smeared on store display windows, with a Star of David painted in yellow and black across the doors. Anti-Jewish signs accompany these slogans. In some towns, the SA march through the streets singing anti-Jewish slogans and party songs.

Review: Hitler demeaned the Jews. He blamed the economic and national depression on them. He instituted national boycotts of their business. He then took their money through taxes and outright looting. Hey, maybe they weren’t paying their “fair share.”

The Police State
If you dared oppose the Nazis or Hitler politically, especially with your words, you better watch out. The Gestapo was on the hunt for political dissidents, many of whom would simply vanish.

SS chief Heinrich Himmler also turned the regular (nonparty) police forces into an instrument of terror. He helped forge the powerful Secret State Police (Geheime Staatspolizei), or Gestapo; these non-uniformed police used ruthless and cruel methods throughout Germany to identify and arrest political opponents and others who refused to obey laws and policies of the Nazi regime.

Compare the Gestapo with how leftists want to jail people who do not believe in man-made climate change. Compare the Gestapo to the Gaystapo, who fines people who do not agree with gay marriage or the gay lifestyle. Compare the Gestapo to liberal New York, which fines you for not using the right gender pronouns.

In Conclusion
Hitler was a horrible human being. But aside from how he treated the Jews, aside from his monsterous ways, his polcies were anything but “conservative.” He wanted big government, he wanted big eductation, he wanted thought control. He hated political dissidents. He loathed free-speech. He feared an armed citizenry.

So stop saying “Hitler was right-wing.” No, he wasn’t. If anything, he was a full-fledged left-winger. With a horrible mustache.
Enter Paxxx, a foot soldier (probably on the payroll) of the right, using the "talking points" to create a narrative that the left is equivalent to fascist totalitarian Nazi Germany.

College kids that are angry at people that they shouldn't be, trying to make a difference , and being too emotional. It's not a fascist movement. And anyone that says otherwise is grossly distorting the truth and history.
 

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Nothing is false, really. I think blocking ideas on a college campus is ridiculous......but it's not liberal thinking either.

FOX develops "talking points" derived directly from rightwing think tank strategy, these talking points are distributed to conservative news outlets, talk radio, and GOP lawmakers. The purpose of these "talking points" is to drive public opinion in favor of conservative and GOP support. It's actually a very effective strategy that has been at work for decades. The Dems can never get as organized as the right. The problem of blocking speakers is both ableft and right issue. Only the right doesn't use threats of violence and violent protests, but they do block certain graduation speakers through proper channels of student government at select institutions.

Its foolish from the college students to threaten violence, and only serves to hand conservatives a win in the big picture. But it is NOT an outright assault on free speech from liberals, that rhetoric is political commentary that is fanned by rightwing strategy.

It's not just college students but college administrators and faculty. Didn't you watch the University of Missouri riot where faculty were encouraging violence? It is becoming very pervasive on college campuses across the country. Very fascist.

And Obama ruling with a pen and a phone, ignoring Congress, signing agreements without Congressional input like the Iran deal and the Paris Climate Accord sounds fascist as well. For all intents and purposes those were treaties and should have had Senatorial approval.

Fascism is not an ideology, it is a style of governance or behavior, and can be both left and right wing.
 

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I agree with a lot of you say. However, I don't understand how you fail to see that the left does the same exact thing but on a much larger scale. The right has Fox and talk radio, the left has MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, Hollywood and academia.

You forgot about 90% of the newspapers. NY Times, Wash Post, LA Times, etc.
 

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Enter Paxxx, a foot soldier (probably on the payroll) of the right, using the "talking points" to create a narrative that the left is equivalent to fascist totalitarian Nazi Germany.

College kids that are angry at people that they shouldn't be, trying to make a difference , and being too emotional. It's not a fascist movement. And anyone that says otherwise is grossly distorting the truth and history.

They are absolutely fascists. Very authoritarian. No one speaks unless they approve. To stop it, they use threats, intimidation and violence. That is the very definition of fascism. And again, not just students. You are either, once again, uninformed, or ignoring the roles of administrators and faculty.
 

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I agree with a lot of you say. However, I don't understand how you fail to see that the left does the same exact thing but on a much larger scale. The right has Fox and talk radio, the left has MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, Hollywood and academia.
I will give you MSNBC of course, they are pitiful. Even ABC, NBC, CBS have gotten too involved in trying to beat Trump themselves. Lots of pissing matches. Hollywood, like most Universities, are biased in the fact that the majority of Directors and Professors at liberal in ideology. Their work reflects their beliefs, nothing wrong with that. Maybe we should implement a "affirmative action" program and address the imbalance?

Conservative voices exist in both places. They're just outnumbered. The left is not able to work as well as the right. I'm not saying they wouldn't LOVE to have the ability to implement the same strategic influence. They're just not that good.

I'm an independent liberal, I'm an idealist, and ridiculously a dreamer at my core. I'm very open to conservative ideas esp in finance and accountability. Trump is just someone that pushes me left - even to the point where I'm not open to ideas I once was, because I want him out.

I'm guilty of not giving him a legitimate shot. Due to his environmental stance and seemingly brash and aggressive foriegn policy. I also can't stand protectionist policies, I think it will have a negative long term effect.
 

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They are absolutely fascists. Very authoritarian. No one speaks unless they approve. To stop it, they use threats, intimidation and violence. That is the very definition of fascism. And again, not just students. You are either, once again, uninformed, or ignoring the roles of administrators and faculty.
Many of those administrators are simply trying to avoid violence and bad press. Not right, but there were reasons the speakers were scheduled in the first place.
 

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You forgot about 90% of the newspapers. NY Times, Wash Post, LA Times, etc.
There are good journalists, I'm beginning to worry about the editors a little.....but it's more about trying to finish the fight Trump is winning, than it is about anything else.
 

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Many of those administrators are simply trying to avoid violence and bad press. Not right, but there were reasons the speakers were scheduled in the first place.

Again, professors were seen taking part in the action. Most recently at Berkeley. One professor assaulted a person with a bike lock.

https://saboteur365.wordpress.com/2...tack-at-battle-of-berkeley-after-pol-doxxing/

That's just one example. A Missouri professor was actually caught on video calling for violence. At other schools, administrators were also seen shutting down speech. You're understating the problem.
 

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There are good journalists, I'm beginning to worry about the editors a little.....but it's more about trying to finish the fight Trump is winning, than it is about anything else.

It's not their job to "fight the Trump is winning" mantra, it is their job to report the facts on both sides of an issue. Even the NY Times Omsbudsman says the Times is too liberal.
 
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Again, professors were seen taking part in the action. Most recently at Berkeley. One professor assaulted a person with a bike lock.

https://saboteur365.wordpress.com/2...tack-at-battle-of-berkeley-after-pol-doxxing/

That's just one example. A Missouri professor was actually caught on video calling for violence. At other schools, administrators were also seen shutting down speech. You're understating the problem.

The Missouri professor was not acting on behalf of the school and was fired for her actions.
 

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Fascism has no ideological/political ties. It can be practiced by either side of the political spectrum e.i Nazi Germany...suck it lefties.
 

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Nothing is false, really. I think blocking ideas on a college campus is ridiculous......but it's not liberal thinking either.

Just like I have to deal with the Westboro Baptists of the world, this is your headache that won't go away. Whatever you think liberal ideals are, these people are liberals. They are part of your group.
 

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Just like I have to deal with the Westboro Baptists of the world, this is your headache that won't go away. Whatever you think liberal ideals are, these people are liberals. They are part of your group.
Liberalism is a challenging of tradition. You take ownership of ALL Christian ideals?
 

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I'm constantly amazed at the delusion from the right. Never admit mistakes, always act like you know it all, blame everything bad on people that don't think like you, proclaim everything that matches with your ideology as American and everything that doesn't as unAmerican.

Enjoy your time in the sun. It's not lasting long, and soon it will gone for good.
I always enjoy the wishful thinking of know nothing liberals. Get used to losing because you spent your whole life preparing for it.
 
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"(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice."

That's not conservatism.

Correct. Fascism /= conservatism.

In the same vein, liberalism /= socialism and for that matter socialism /= communism.

It is true that in practice fascism had Stalinism are strikingly similar even though they reach the point from different ideological starting points.
 

TarHeelEer

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Liberalism is a challenging of tradition. You take ownership of ALL Christian ideals?

That's not liberalism at all. It is very firm in its definition which will not change from the main mission: socialism for all and wealth redistribution.

I typically don't have a choice. They are usually proscribed to me whether I agree with them or not.
 

moe

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and Commies are international socialists and what do they have in common? They're both on the left side of the political spectrum, you guys own both...so when you call conservatives Nazi's are you ignorant of this FACT or are you lying because you're embarrassed that you side with two of the deadliest political ideologies in the history of mankind?
'Hail Trump!': White Nationalists Salute the President-Elect
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/
 

WVPATX

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The Missouri professor was not acting on behalf of the school and was fired for her actions.

My indisputable point is that faculty and administrative staff are shutting down speech they don't like. They are directly involved in some cases and indirectly when they acquiesce to threats. Unconstitutional actions on their part. Settled law.