NCAA supporting transgender athletes

[bthaunert]

I do not know. How many would be willing to say they are female for a $250,000 worth of scholarships and entrance in a school they could not attend otherwise.

There are policies in place as to what constitutes a trans athlete and what does not. In order for a person who was male at birth to be eligible to play for a women's team as a trans athlete, a male would have to complete one calendar year of testosterone suppression treatment for gender transition. I believe this is the same thing that is in place for the olympics?

I think some people believe you can just identify as a woman and be good to go. 99.9999999% of people who do this are committed to transitioning to a different gender, and not doing it so they get a competitive advantage in sports.

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

Why can’t they call themselves women but still compete with the men? Bruce Jenner did it.

that's not quite how that played out

 

[Gassy_Knowls]

I'm wearing a bra right now. And let me tell you, this thing is like a jock strap for my nipples.

 

[TheOtherGreatOne]

Few guys on the mens’ team probably wouldn’t have even started for the women’s’ team last year.

No Brad Calipari wasn't on the team last year.

 

[LoavulLou]

The current policy is that former-male athletes must be taking testosterone suppression meds for at least one year before competing as a woman. I really don’t think many males will get in line for that, no matter the value of the scholarship.

So if you chemically castrate a healthy young man, a college has to allow him to play with girls...

That's loss of essence. Talk about your Commie conspiracy.
Reminds me of fluoridation. I first became aware of it during the physical act of love.
Yes, a profound sense of fatigue... a feeling of emptiness followed.
Luckily I was able to interpret these feelings correctly.
Loss of essence.
I can assure you it has not recurred.
Women... women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
I do not avoid women. But I do deny them my essence.

 

[mdlUK.1]

that's not quite how that played out

No, he didn’t come out as a woman but he obviously had those feelings. So, yeah, that is how it played out. Gay man wins gold.

 

[cats#1again]

Are there female wrestling teams? Imagine the difference in that sport smh. Sad time we live in when everyone starts believing a sin is the norm and goes along with it.

 

[Patriot202]

I agree 100 percent. Generally speaking I couldn't care less what gender another person identifies as. Good for them seeking happiness in life because 99.9% of the time it has absolutely ZERO impact on my life whatsoever....so who GAF unless you are just "one of those" Nazi Christians that feels the need to condemn anyone who is different or chooses a different lifestyle.
But this actually falls into the .01 percent of this issue when it does actually impact others. How do you tell someone that they must give up participation in all sports in order to be true to themselves? On the other hand, how do you tell your daughter she will ride the pine in a game or miss out on a scholarship because a dude decided to become a chick and is the better player?
At the end of the day.....This is a very complex issue with no way for everyone involved to declare victory.

Doesn’t affect you ? Maybe maybe not what would u do if you had a young daughter going to the bathroom while a grown man in a skirt goes in there right after her ? That’s unacceptable.
How about not being able to call someone Sir or ma’am without seriously “offending” them. There is two genders always will be. Miss me with that bs

 

[Nubb16]

I do not know. How many would be willing to say they are female for a $250,000 worth of scholarships and entrance in a school they could not attend otherwise.

Do I have to chop my Johnson off? Shoot I might already have.

nubb

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

this is gross to me but I don't see it being much of an issue, honestly

Tell that to all the women athletes who will be replaced by men in dresses

 

[fredmanthecatfan]

We might start not only worrying about losing players to NBA, over seas, and G league, but now the WNBA.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

There are policies in place as to what constitutes a trans athlete and what does not. In order for a person who was male at birth to be eligible to play for a women's team as a trans athlete, a male would have to complete one calendar year of testosterone suppression treatment for gender transition. I believe this is the same thing that is in place for the olympics?

I think some people believe you can just identify as a woman and be good to go. 99.9999999% of people who do this are committed to transitioning to a different gender, and not doing it so they get a competitive advantage in sports.

As if any of this makes a difference. A man on estrogen his whole adult life is still stronger than a woman 90% of the time.

 

[Myotis]

So if you chemically castrate a healthy young man, a college has to allow him to play with girls...

That's loss of essence. Talk about your Commie conspiracy.
Reminds me of fluoridation. I first became aware of it during the physical act of love.
Yes, a profound sense of fatigue... a feeling of emptiness followed.
Luckily I was able to interpret these feelings correctly.
Loss of essence.
I can assure you it has not recurred.
Women... women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
I do not avoid women. But I do deny them my essence.

One of the greatest nutjob dialogs in film history!

President Merkin Muffley: General Turgidson, I find this very difficult to understand. I was under the impression that I was the only one in authority to order the use of nuclear weapons.

General "Buck" Turgidson: That's right, sir, you are the only person authorized to do so. And although I, uh, hate to judge before all the facts are in, it's beginning to look like, uh, General Ripper exceeded his authority.

 

[JayCatz44]

I have no problem with the trans community. If someone wants to be labeled a man or woman let them. However, you can't change genetics and DNA. I get people wanting equal rights, but you can't take equality away from others in the process.

 

[Randy Bob]

These people perverts. God made man and woman.

 

[bthaunert]

As if any of this makes a difference. A man on estrogen his whole adult life is still stronger than a woman 90% of the time.

I'm more stating that high school and college men aren't going to run out and get testosterone suppression treatment for a year so they can play on a women's team in college. Which seems to be what some people are pointing at. Overall, I'm indifferent on the topic. I feel like we might be talking about less than 5 out of 460,000 college athletes.

 

[ralphdaltonfan]

The world is turned upside down. Born as a man you’re a man. Born as a woman you’re a woman. Men have no business competing in women’s sports.

"Trust the Science"--unless related to biology, genetics, then it's "Trust My Truth on what Science is".

Don't think it'll matter too much but it's just pathetic how people have bought into this "my truth" bull****. You are a man or a woman. Whatever you decide to do sexually or socially is your business. It doesn't offend me but I won't apologize for not giving a ****.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

I'm more stating that high school and college men aren't going to run out and get testosterone suppression treatment for a year so they can play on a women's team in college. Which seems to be what some people are pointing at. Overall, I'm indifferent on the topic. I feel like we might be talking about less than 5 out of 460,000 college athletes.

My point is it doesn’t matter. After puberty a man taking estrogen will always be stronger than women.

 

[bthaunert]

My point is it doesn’t matter. After puperty a man taking estrogen will always be stronger than women.

I don't disagree with that...although there are some wimpy males out there without estrogen.

 

[BeAllied]

Has this really been a problem that has affected anyone’s life?

The biological women who lose out on scholarships to transgendered athletes, and the future transgendered athletes who kill themselves for being depressed for being trans, and the families of those two groups.

 

[bthaunert]

The biological women who lose out on scholarships to transgendered athletes, and the future transgendered athletes who kill themselves for being depressed for being trans, and the families of those two groups.

I don't believe there has ever been a female athlete miss out on a scholarship because of a trans athlete. I might be wrong. Do you know if there have been any?

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

I think this is great. Why? Because nothing reveals exactly how insane an idea truly is like seeing it come to fruition. People seeing this nonsense will end the insanity around this stuff. Same when someone's daughter loses their scholarship to a male.

 

[BeAllied]

I don't believe there has ever been a female athlete miss out on a scholarship because of a trans athlete. I might be wrong. Do you know if there have been any?

Does there have to be a historical example for there to be a future one?

If there are limited spots for scholarships to begin, and then scholarships are given to "not-women", then we can deduce that an actual woman lost out an opportunity.

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

No, he didn’t come out as a woman but he obviously had those feelings. So, yeah, that is how it played out. Gay man wins gold.

Still not accurate, and not how it played out, but if it fits your perception, then it must be right. I don't consider myself a staunch defender of trans and gay rights, but we should at least respect the people that are affected.

 

[mdlUK.1]

Still not accurate, and not how it played out, but if it fits your perception, then it must be right. I don't consider myself a staunch defender of trans and gay rights, but we should at least respect the people that are affected.

How is it not right? If he is gay/trans now, he was having those feeling then. And was still able to compete and beat straight males.

 

[WildcatfaninOhio]

I don't believe there has ever been a female athlete miss out on a scholarship because of a trans athlete. I might be wrong. Do you know if there have been any?

Don’t let that stop your outrage. It’s 2021 and outrage should be your default position on all topics.

 

[BBNinSC_rivals62411]

I'm always curious if this is sarcasm or people truly believe this.

There is no limit what young people will do
to flex on social media.

 

[bthaunert]

Does there have to be a historical example for there to be a future one?

If there are limited spots for scholarships to begin, and then scholarships are given to "not-women", then we can deduce that an actual woman lost out an opportunity.

I guess I'm just trying to figure out why there is so much passion from some around something that has never been an issue in intercollegiate athletics.

 

[bkingUK]

The biological women who lose out on scholarships to transgendered athletes, and the future transgendered athletes who kill themselves for being depressed for being trans, and the families of those two groups.

And how many people we talking about here?

 

[BeAllied]

I guess I'm just trying to figure out why there is so much passion from some around something that has never been an issue in intercollegiate athletics.

Because they are making it into an issue now and opening the flood gates for future issues. Nobody would care if they had a third co-ed classification for sports or if the trans athletes were required to compete with the men, but they are pushing this issue into women's sports. That's where it becomes problematic.

 

[BeAllied]

And how many people we talking about here?

Enough to shut down the entire economy. One is too many...

 

[kyeric]

I agree 100 percent. Generally speaking I couldn't care less what gender another person identifies as. Good for them seeking happiness in life because 99.9% of the time it has absolutely ZERO impact on my life whatsoever....so who GAF unless you are just "one of those" Nazi Christians that feels the need to condemn anyone who is different or chooses a different lifestyle.
But this actually falls into the .01 percent of this issue when it does actually impact others. How do you tell someone that they must give up participation in all sports in order to be true to themselves? On the other hand, how do you tell your daughter she will ride the pine in a game or miss out on a scholarship because a dude decided to become a chick and is the better player?
At the end of the day.....This is a very complex issue with no way for everyone involved to declare victory.

I don't think it's complex at all. Why have men's and women's sports been separate up until now? Because there are physical differences between men and women that create a completely unequal playing field when together. When you combine a biological man (regardless of whether he identifies as a woman, gorilla or a tomato) with women in a sporting event, they will generally dominate once you get passed the age of about 10. Identifying as something else doesn't change your basic physical makeup.

I know it was just a scrimmage, but just 4yrs ago an U15 boys team beat arguably the greatest women's soccer team on earth. I don't care if it was a scrimmage or if the women's team played in heels. It was an U15 BOY'S team against the TOP women's team at the time. Not just good women, but the best of the best. Imagine the Dream Team (which is essentially what the USWNT was) going up against a U15 AAU basketball team in a scrimmage. The U15 may not score a basket.

What I'm more amazed about with this situation is that women's groups almost all seem to be silent on this front. If for nothing else than what you pointed out (...how do you tell your daughter she will ride the pine in a game or miss out on a scholarship because a dude decided to become a chick and is the better player?"), you'd think there would be a little bit of outrage.

 

[IdaCat]

I don't keep up with this ****, but I did recently see an article in my local paper where several ISU (Idaho State) women track athletes were complaining about unfair competition against trans.

Here's a Big Sky example from 2019.

Transgender NCAA runner named conference's 'Women's Athlete of the Week'​

 

[IdaCat]

I see young ISU women's track athletes running around town in the middle of winter training hard for their sport. And it gets damn cold here! I think they deserve fair competition, but they've got an insane liberal social engineering policy going against them.

Two ISU athletes file motion in support of Idaho's transgender sports ban​

 

[awf]

My support for the NCAA was down about 75%......this will finish off the last 25%.......

 

[LoavulLou]

Women reap what they sowed. This is their doing. Can't blame men for this one.

Well, you can't blame men that don't wear dresses.

I'm just waiting for the time when male cheerleaders start wearing skirts at games. I'd say that's when the riots will start.

 

[bthaunert]

Because they are making it into an issue now and opening the flood gates for future issues. Nobody would care if they had a third co-ed classification for sports or if the trans athletes were required to compete with the men, but they are pushing this issue into women's sports. That's where it becomes problematic.

I believe the NCAA has had their policy in place since 2011 on transgender athletes. Just so you know, I'm not necessarily for the inclusion of trans athletes in women's sports. I just find it weird when people (not you) go off on the, "it's going to ruin women's sports" when it will have minimal, if any impact.

 

[IdaCat]

A Boise State trans wanted to get into the game (below link)
I'm sure if you were interested, you could find more than a few cases where this has already caused problems. Science and basic human decency be damned. Everybody gives in to every lib normalization effort no matter how ridiculous it is. Don't want to be labeled a ____phobic or a ___ist!

Idaho transgender ban temporarily blocked; ISU runners allowed to intervene​

 

[awf]

Has this really been a problem that has affected anyone’s life?

In some places.......naturally the girls were mad that they were robbed of an opportunity to win........this is BS in the first degree........

 

[awf]

I'm wearing a bra right now. And let me tell you, this thing is like a jock strap for my nipples.

And........you can carry some cauliflower and broccoli nubs for a snack in it.......plus it will help fill that rascal out.....