NCAA supporting transgender athletes

mrhotdice

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It’s just plain stupidity. I’m convinced 90% of the US population is just dumb. No specific basis like politics or anything else.....but just plain dumb. Look around.....watch and listen to people regularly. You will agree.
My daddy always said to never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. But what he should have said was to never underestimate the stupidity of the American government, FBI, Congress, Senate, Supreme Court, anyone on Twitter, Facebook, and everyone who took 1400$ and forget the constitution And free speech.
 
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Our form of Government, flaws and all, is the greatest system ever devised by man. What it is susceptible to though is propaganda disguised as news. We've got half the population that thinks a pedophile ring ran out of pizza parlors is waging war with God's handpicked savior who happens to be a reality show dime store conman with the My Pillow Guy orbiting around him. On the other side we've got race hustlers like Al Sharpton trying to convince the American people that crack heads are heroes and when you get stopped by the police you should be able to fight them and leave if you believe you didn't do anything. Have you seen one news outlet or black leader try to educate people about what you are required to do when confronted by the police even if you believe you are innocent? Here's a tip, trying to fight them or run away can end badly. Does anyone not know that?

So the problem isn't our Government as that is the very thing that made us special and that is historically beyond question, the problem is in order to weaken our Government so the richest country in earth's history can be fleeced into oblivion we have global corporate interests that don't want to be checked combining with our mortal enemies the Russians and the Chinese all destroying us from within by manipulating Bubba types with conspiracy nutjob social issues and blacks with this ludicrous idea that the police are systematically killing black people.
 

bluthruandthru

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Our form of Government, flaws and all, is the greatest system ever devised by man. What it is susceptible to though is propaganda disguised as news. We've got half the population that thinks a pedophile ring ran out of pizza parlors is waging war with God's handpicked savior who happens to be a reality show dime store conman with the My Pillow Guy orbiting around him. On the other side we've got race hustlers like Al Sharpton trying to convince the American people that crack heads are heroes and when you get stopped by the police you should be able to fight them and leave if you believe you didn't do anything. Have you seen one news outlet or black leader try to educate people about what you are required to do when confronted by the police even if you believe you are innocent? Here's a tip, trying to fight them or run away can end badly. Does anyone not know that?

So the problem isn't our Government as that is the very thing that made us special and that is historically beyond question, the problem is in order to weaken our Government so the richest country in earth's history can be fleeced into oblivion we have global corporate interests that don't want to be checked combining with our mortal enemies the Russians and the Chinese all destroying us from within by manipulating Bubba types with social issues and blacks with this ludicrous idea that the police are systematically killing black people.

1 or 0.

It's an imperative. (and an algorithm)
 
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hmt5000

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Nah. I mean you've got full blown retards doing gender reassignment surgeries on their toddlers. The ultimate female man beast will be dunking all over UCONN in about 15 years.
And I believe the Conn HS 100m womens state title was won by a dude. He narrowly beat the runner up though... another dude.

People that don't think the freaks are gonna take advantage of this for free education are fooling themselves. Already one dude is competing as a woman and says he's still attracted to women and is keeping his penis..... So just a dude.
 
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hmt5000

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I agree 100 percent. Generally speaking I couldn't care less what gender another person identifies as. Good for them seeking happiness in life because 99.9% of the time it has absolutely ZERO impact on my life whatsoever....so who GAF unless you are just "one of those" Nazi Christians that feels the need to condemn anyone who is different or chooses a different lifestyle.
But this actually falls into the .01 percent of this issue when it does actually impact others. How do you tell someone that they must give up participation in all sports in order to be true to themselves? On the other hand, how do you tell your daughter she will ride the pine in a game or miss out on a scholarship because a dude decided to become a chick and is the better player?
At the end of the day.....This is a very complex issue with no way for everyone involved to declare victory.
Its really not that complex. You play in the sport as the gender you were born with as long as you follow the rules. No exception for women pounding testosterone then competing against clean women. Do it by chromosomes.
 

Mike-D

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And I believe the Conn HS 100m womens state title was won by a dude. He narrowly beat the runner up though... another dude.

People that don't think the freaks are gonna take advantage of this for free education are fooling themselves. Already one dude is competing as a woman and says he's still attracted to women and is keeping his penis..... So just a dude.

Women will eventually get tired of it, and something will have to change.
 

Phil_The_Music2

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He never even addressed the point i made with evidence...
I've seen people do this a lot who are on the other side of the transgender debate. They claim if you aren't some type of gender doctor or expert that your opinion is invalid. Yet they themselves don't have any expertise on the subject either. Makes no sense.
 
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RMP82

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Boy howdy! I sure can't wait to see a big pecker bulge in those volleyball shorts next year when Craig Skinner's team tries to repeat.
 

PhDcat2018

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I've seen people do this a lot who are on the other side of the transgender debate. They claim if you aren't some type of gender doctor or expert that your opinion is invalid. Yet they themselves don't have any expertise on the subject either. Makes no sense.
I know about the DSM-5 as it was a reference in my dissertation on special needs education and autism diagnosis.
 
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Ron Mehico

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I mean what are we calling someone that was born a woman/man that feels they are a man/woman? It’s not really normal, causes the individual confusion and depression, and if it wasn’t for modern medicine and tens of thousands of dollars it would leave the individual feeling trapped/wrong their entire life. It’s sounds horrible and is probably why it effects so few people. I mean isn’t that technically a disorder? Would any of you want it for yourself or child? What’s wrong with calling something that is clearly psychologically wrong with the person a disorder? Isn’t depression a disorder too?
 

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The wokeness that has infected everything just continues. Besides just being complete lunacy, this truly affects womens sports. It will take spots away from actual women and give them to people living in a fantasy world.

Just another "cause" coming round to further erode the fabric of the family and create chaos and confusion in the minds of young people. Sinister imo.
 
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And I believe the Conn HS 100m womens state title was won by a dude. He narrowly beat the runner up though... another dude.

People that don't think the freaks are gonna take advantage of this for free education are fooling themselves. Already one dude is competing as a woman and says he's still attracted to women and is keeping his penis..... So just a dude.
I’ve been told by the endocrinologists that work in my building that penis removal is rarely done and when it’s done it’s mostly because of cancer, not gender transformation. It’s rare to find a provider that will do it for non-cancer reasons (and even then it’s pretty rare). And it’s also extremely expensive with insurance not likely covering it.
 

Ron Mehico

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I’ve been told by the endocrinologists that work in my building that penis removal is rarely done and when it’s done it’s mostly because of cancer, not gender transformation. It’s rare to find a provider that will do it for non-cancer reasons (and even then it’s pretty rare). And it’s also extremely expensive with insurance not likely covering it.

Even if every provider offered it, it would still be very rare. I don’t think the volume of the procedure is what’s being argued.
 
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Even if every provider offered it, it would still be very rare. I don’t think the volume of the procedure is what’s being argued.
I'm not arguing over quantity. Removing the penis just isn't even generally an option for transgenders, rather it be a provider access and/or financial issue. Not like they are being given the opportunity to have it done by a nearby provider at an affordable price and then saying "no thanks, I'm good." So one deciding to keep their penis doesn't really mean anything to me. The reality of the situation is they never had the opportunity to make a choice on it to begin with, the market made it unfeasible.
 

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A man in prison here in Idaho for sexually assaulting a child demanded the state pay for and perform "gender reassignment" surgery on him.

A federal judge ordered the state to perform the surgery on grounds that his 8th amendment rights were being violated. It's "cruel and unusual punishment" for a prisoner to not have his dick amputated at taxpayer expense if he wants it.

The 9th Circuit (of course) upheld the ruling and he got his surgery.

Now the scumbag is suing the state for damages for the year long legal process delay to get his surgery.
 

IdaCat

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He had a team of liberal lawyers. the ACLU, and probably Barry and Michael Obama supporting him.
 

Ukbrassowtipin

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Currently they are doing this Deflection tactic where they zero in on one thing, ignore everything else. Here's a good example in this science magazine


The latest tactic they're on is focusing solely on testosterone. But that's not the only thing that makes males and females different. They ignore, bone density, muscle mass, etc, etc, etc

They always bring this dumb argument that none have qualified for the Olympics so it's a non issue. Well we're talking about like .03 percent of ppl that are trans. The pool is small considering most ppl don't make the Olympics anyway regardless. But, we can still easily blow that away...look at Bruce Jenner's gold medal performance compared to the female's in the 76 Olympics. Yeah, he wasnt Caitlyn yet, but are we trying to say he wouldn't have dusted the women either way?

There's MMA fighters that have transitioned and they destroy the other women. There just hasn't been a kevin Durant that feels they're a woman yet.

To the woke, I'm NOT saying that trans ppl don't actually feel the way they do, and I'm not saying ppl would pretend to be another sex to compete in sports. I'm just stating common sense reality...that a biological male is on a different level than a woman. There's a reason sports aren't co-ed, and there's a reason this conversation has never once been about ppl having an issue with a female that transitions to a male trying to play with dudes. Why you think that is?
 
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Beatle Bum

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College men who played HS ball have been practicing with top female teams for years. Puberty matters. It’s just science.
 

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I 100% have an issue with it which is why I said I think it's gross.

I don't see it being much of an issue because I just don't see it happening, very rarely at least.
Sir with all due respect...Are you not paying attention !!!??? This country is heading for a very dark place if it's not stopped along with with other issues that a small minority is being allowed to control.
 
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Sir with all due respect...Are you not paying attention !!!??? This country is heading for a very dark place if it's not stopped along with with other issues that a small minority is being allowed to control.
I think you guys are missing my point. I think it’s a gross and terrible idea. I just don’t see that many “transgender” athletes trying to play female sports.
 

hmt5000

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I'm not arguing over quantity. Removing the penis just isn't even generally an option for transgenders, rather it be a provider access and/or financial issue. Not like they are being given the opportunity to have it done by a nearby provider at an affordable price and then saying "no thanks, I'm good." So one deciding to keep their penis doesn't really mean anything to me. The reality of the situation is they never had the opportunity to make a choice on it to begin with, the market made it unfeasible.
If you are a dude that has a penis and is attracted to women and bangs women... you are just a dude. You can call yourself a girl and take away a scholly from an actual girl but I grew up on a farm and if you have a penis and have sex with females you are a male.
 
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PhDcat2018

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If you are a dude that has a penis and is attracted to women and bangs women... you are just a dude. You can call yourself a girl and take away a scholly from an actual girl but I grew up on a farm and if you have a penis and have sex with females you are a male.
 
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If you are a dude that has a penis and is attracted to women and bangs women... you are just a dude. You can call yourself a girl and take away a scholly from an actual girl but I grew up on a farm and if you have a penis and have sex with females you are a male.
Yeah but what if they only have sex with males?

And what if they were born a shemale?