WVSPORTS.COM Neal Brown on challenging times

[Keenan Cummings]

"Extremely difficult time to lead. I didn't learn about this in any MBA course I took or any situation as a coach. This is the only pandemic I've ever experienced. It's the most social unrest of any time period during my lifetime, probably the most since the early 1960's. We had to manage most of this remotely, we've only been face to face with our kids for less than a month, or mask to mask I should say. So just a really difficult time to lead. As far as the social injustice, I think you're naive if you think there's not injustices, I really do. I've been encouraged because I don't think that my generation probably did enough to create true equity. So I have hope in this generation, and that's white and black, I really have hope in this generation. I've been encouraging them to act, not just using the tool of social media, but it's about real actions. More than anything I'm at a point right now where I'm just frustrated. I'm frustrated at the division. You can support the Black Lives Matter movement, because it's a movement, and not support the organization. You can recognize social injustice and still support state and local police. You can disagree with a politician and still love America and still know it's the best country in the world and you can still support our great military. You can recognize COVID-19 as a great challenge and it's done so much harm and killed hundred thousands of people and it has wrecked so much in this world but still think it's the right thing to do to play football and send our kids to school. There's just so much division and to me it just seems everybody is angry. Everybody is angry at everybody and I just think we can be better. We need to be better. Because the only way we get through the COVID challenge pandemic, the only thing that will make these social injustices better is we've got to do it together. I'm just really frustrated at the division. Some of that is because social media and everything right now is what have you done for me lately? I think we've got to be better. We've got to be better as a society, as people and that's where I'm at."

 

[oceantide83]

Here's an example of that social injustice....

 

[WVUALLEN]

That's just wrong.

 

[SKYHAWKBALL]

“Mask to mask” my ***. We’ve seen the photos of them without masks.

 

[locustwv]

It’s only difficult times because a certain political party wants it that way. None of this crap needs to be happening.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

What makes Brown think any of us need his opinion on politics?

 

[Darth_VadEER]

"Extremely difficult time to lead. I didn't learn about this in any MBA course I took or any situation as a coach. This is the only pandemic I've ever experienced. It's the most social unrest of any time period during my lifetime, probably the most since the early 1960's. We had to manage most of this remotely, we've only been face to face with our kids for less than a month, or mask to mask I should say. So just a really difficult time to lead. As far as the social injustice, I think you're naive if you think there's not injustices, I really do. I've been encouraged because I don't think that my generation probably did enough to create true equity. So I have hope in this generation, and that's white and black, I really have hope in this generation. I've been encouraging them to act, not just using the tool of social media, but it's about real actions. More than anything I'm at a point right now where I'm just frustrated. I'm frustrated at the division. You can support the Black Lives Matter movement, because it's a movement, and not support the organization. You can recognize social injustice and still support state and local police. You can disagree with a politician and still love America and still know it's the best country in the world and you can still support our great military. You can recognize COVID-19 as a great challenge and it's done so much harm and killed hundred thousands of people and it has wrecked so much in this world but still think it's the right thing to do to play football and send our kids to school. There's just so much division and to me it just seems everybody is angry. Everybody is angry at everybody and I just think we can be better. We need to be better. Because the only way we get through the COVID challenge pandemic, the only thing that will make these social injustices better is we've got to do it together. I'm just really frustrated at the division. Some of that is because social media and everything right now is what have you done for me lately? I think we've got to be better. We've got to be better as a society, as people and that's where I'm at."

He seems like the one who is angry...maybe instead of lecturing wvu fans he needs to go find a mirror.

He doesn't like division...but then talks publicly about divisive topics and says divisive things, please STFU Neal.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Neal Brown fired a coach for talking politics at work, and here is Neal Brown talking politics at work...but its ok because he does the liberal line and spouts the blm gospel.

He encourages players to use social media as a tool (for protesting I assume), then ends with blaming social media for our problems....and support the movement but not the organization? whatever Neal.

 

[SKYHAWKBALL]

this “movement” is the one the WVU administration, athletic department, and Neal Brown supports. Neal Brown can go **** right off back To Troy.

 

[3xWVUenginEER]

Neil — Really? Instead of tearing your statements apart and pointing out the blatant hypocrisy between you, former members of the staff, your profession, business/industry, & so called “justice“, How bout this Neil? Just Shut up & coach. Your team went 5-7 (3-6 conference finishing 7th) last year (including an opening statement 20-13 win over 1-aa JMU), so you have plenty to keep you busy as it is.

Nobody is buying tickets or making donations to hear your thoughts on anything. “Do your job” as The Hoody would say or someone else will. College football is entertainment—that’s it—-so be entertainment and skip the enlightenment & statements concerning matters outside the Puskar Building. You need more Bill Belichick-“We’re on to (next opponent)” and nothing else matters.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

I dont think politics belong in the workplace, but apply it universally. Neal Brown fired an employee for discussing politics and social issues at work, but then Neal Brown goes on record discussing his political beliefs - at work, and encourages his players to use social media to protest and discuss politics.

He is a blatant hypocrite.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

this “movement” is the one the WVU administration, athletic department, and Neal Brown supports. Neal Brown can go **** right off back To Troy.

Well Neal Brown finds this behavior encouraging...assaulting people at restaurants is creating true equity, he wishes his generation did more of this.

 

[Rootmaster]

NB failed in the business world. Now he is a coach without a spine. Could care less about him...his clueless boss...or this season. ALM not BLM.

 

[locustwv]

Just switched to ESPN to see some highlights and made it a whole 2 minutes before I turned it off. Saw no highlights but was made aware of their views on all the unrest in America!! I hate ESPN!! I knew better.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

When you are a poor leader, it will always be a difficult time to lead...Neal.

Good leaders actually thrive during challenging times, it's what they are built for...they don't whine and complain like weak men...Neal.

If you want to lead...go do it. Stop talking about how hard it is...Neal. Be a man and accept the job..Neal.

You cant complain your way to success...Neal.

George Patton didnt complain his way across the Rhine River, he actually fvcking did something about it...Neal.

Stop bowing to the opposition and tackle a god damn problem. No one cares about your obstacles. Your problems are not our problems. Go win football games or get the hell out of Morgantown. Nobody cares about anything else.

 

[locustwv]

If I made millions of dollars a year I truly don’t think I would complain about anything, but I would do everything I could to be successful so I could keep making millions!!

 

[Darth_VadEER]

"Extremely difficult time to lead. I didn't learn about this in any MBA course I took or any situation as a coach. This is the only pandemic I've ever experienced. It's the most social unrest of any time period during my lifetime, probably the most since the early 1960's. We had to manage most of this remotely, we've only been face to face with our kids for less than a month, or mask to mask I should say. So just a really difficult time to lead. As far as the social injustice, I think you're naive if you think there's not injustices, I really do. I've been encouraged because I don't think that my generation probably did enough to create true equity. So I have hope in this generation, and that's white and black, I really have hope in this generation. I've been encouraging them to act, not just using the tool of social media, but it's about real actions. More than anything I'm at a point right now where I'm just frustrated. I'm frustrated at the division. You can support the Black Lives Matter movement, because it's a movement, and not support the organization. You can recognize social injustice and still support state and local police. You can disagree with a politician and still love America and still know it's the best country in the world and you can still support our great military. You can recognize COVID-19 as a great challenge and it's done so much harm and killed hundred thousands of people and it has wrecked so much in this world but still think it's the right thing to do to play football and send our kids to school. There's just so much division and to me it just seems everybody is angry. Everybody is angry at everybody and I just think we can be better. We need to be better. Because the only way we get through the COVID challenge pandemic, the only thing that will make these social injustices better is we've got to do it together. I'm just really frustrated at the division. Some of that is because social media and everything right now is what have you done for me lately? I think we've got to be better. We've got to be better as a society, as people and that's where I'm at."

Yeah...how odd. This ******* didnt learn how to be a leader in his MBA curriculum. Thats super fvcking shocking.

It's almost like being a leader isnt something you learn about in a fvcking book, that its something you do without a guide...because it's who you are...you lead others and actually make decisions and accept the consequences, because leadership is pass/ fail...not a letter grade.

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[Hooterville1]

Putting politics into college football? I NEVER worked anywhere that allowed employees to be politically apparent or active in the work place. Now WVU is going full bore into social justice/politics? The athletes readily take the scholarships & as such they represent WVU, just like an employee is a representative of their company. Play the game, no politics or social justice stances. I know I don't have any sway over the WVU admin, but I will withhold my annual donation "in protest". Pretty sure I won't be the only one making a similar statement. Gee/Brown use your spine and keep athletics free of politics. Not saying students can't support a cause of their choosing, just do it on their time & money.

 

[deedoubleyou]

I dont trust the climb. Neal Brown lost me and I was on board big time. Of course his DC was one of the big reasons I was on board, but he let a brainwashed, over-emotional high school kid take priority over one of the better DC's in the nation. Good leadership Neal. Go fk yourself Shane.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Vic Koenning isn't one of the best DCs in the nation.
Decent DC but not National Championship caliber. There are about 8 to maybe 15 DC in CFB who are NC caliber. Koenning isn't one of them.

Neal Brown is at WVU to win football games. He is going to do what he can to put WVU in the position to win football games.

What he is doing isn't much different than any coach in the nation. There are certain levels of it but no coach is going to come and say they are against BLM. Some will draw a line in certain circumstances but even that is questionable.

This isn't the 1960's and 1970's. Football programs today because of people like Barry Switzer and later Jimmy Johnson are player lead.
You don't have football coaches who have 100% control of the players. You have to be like Nick Saban and Dabo Sweeney. Both are doing what Neal Brown is for the most part. I don't think Neal Brown marched with his players though

 

[Darth_VadEER]

I know Brown is trying to be middle of the road with his statement, but if you wade too deep into the politics you are just going to alienate fans.

People really dont need his guidance on these matters and the more he talks about it the worst it will look for him.

People are suspicious of him after the VK issue, which he hasnt clarified, so hes just piling more crap on himself.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Neal Brown is trying to win football games. That is the only thing that comes across.
The problem here isn't Neal Brown it is how politicize everyone is. More than that how they are politicized by propaganda.
Isn't just one side it is both. Brown is trying to play the middle. Read very close to what he is trying to say.
People think saying Black Lives Matter means you are some sort of American Hating Terrorist. We even have people on this message board who think like that.
This is what is being placed into their heads.

 

[SKYHAWKBALL]

Neal Brown is trying to win football games. That is the only thing that comes across.
The problem here isn't Neal Brown it is how politicize everyone is. More than that how they are politicized by propaganda.
Isn't just one side it is both. Brown is trying to play the middle. Read very close to what he is trying to say.
People think saying Black Lives Matter means you are some sort of American Hating Terrorist. We even have people on this message board who think like that.
This is what is being placed into their heads.

Because the movement is based on Marxism, as clearly stated by their co-founder. Plus all funds they gather go to Democrats. Brown said you can support the “movement”. Maybe he shouldn’t have been as clumsy with words and did more research. He could have said that people can support the statement that “black lives matter”. But he didn’t because his players don’t even know what the difference between Marxism, socialism, etc is and that the only education they take interest in is following what is propagated by athletes, Twitter, and ESPN.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Neal Brown is trying to win football games. That is the only thing that comes across.
The problem here isn't Neal Brown it is how politicize everyone is. More than that how they are politicized by propaganda.
Isn't just one side it is both. Brown is trying to play the middle. Read very close to what he is trying to say.
People think saying Black Lives Matter means you are some sort of American Hating Terrorist. We even have people on this message board who think like that.
This is what is being placed into their heads.

Brown is the one talking politics, so he will get a political response.

 

[Rootmaster]

How do constant racially charged attacks by BurnLootMurder and Antifa types not create racially charged counter feelings and actions by those being attacked by BLM/Antifa mental midgets? When BLM and Antifa folks start valuing education...self reliance...family and community values...and national pride and reject malcontent life...then racial harmony can happen. If things continue going the BurnLootMurder/Antifa way there eventually be a lot of pajama wearers laying in the streets. Stupid **** rationale being mouthed by NB types only pour more fuel on the simmering fire.

 

[.Bodhi.]

I am one BS platitude away from actively rooting for WVU to lose.

The mask continues to drop to reveal how much contempt the university has for the people of this state and the hostility (to the point of physical violence) it has towards its values.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

On you as fans to realize if you are going to be the only fanbase that rejects this. This is what Neal Brown doesn't want to happen. As a coach he has to protect the image of the school in the minds of recruits.
Football is different especially if you are playing with a bunch of blacks. These recruits especially because they are young and now vocal some people are may not want to play for WVU if their fanbase shows their ***...

If you can't see how Neal Brown is attempting to walk a tight rope you are not looking at the total story.

 

[mtn1neernwv]

Who in their right mind would think that putting a BLM sticker on a helmet wouldn’t cause division? I am offended by the BLM sticker....but it depends on who is offended! Try putting a Thin Blue Line Flag on the helmet! How about not putting these divisive stickers on the helmets?

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Who in their right mind would think that putting a BLM sticker on a helmet wouldn’t cause division? I am offended by the BLM sticker....but it depends on who is offended! Try putting a Thin Blue Line Flag on the helmet! How about not putting these divisive stickers on the helmets?

Yeah, he complains about division, but then engages in divisive behavior and topics that have nothing to do with football. From a practical standpoint, WV is one of the reddest states in nation - aligning himself with radical progressive movements probably isnt the smartest thing to do, if you want to maintain support from the fans within the state - and honestly, I'm not sure he really does.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

WV isn't really that conservative
They aren't the reddest state. They are the biggest fans of Trump. Huge difference.

 

[tOSUGrad90]

Why do you suppose that is, Antifa boy? Could it be because idiot Hillary Clinton doubled-down on Zero's promise to bankrupt coal companies and put coal miners out of work during a visit to--of all places--Logan County, West Virginia? Trump has plenty of faults, but Clinton's incompetence and arrogance cost her the election in 2016.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

I don't know.
On you.
But having your entire economy hinge on one thing is horrible. Texas has had this issue in the past and has made the needed changes.

 

[Rootmaster]

I don't know.
On you.
But having your entire economy hinge on one thing is horrible. Texas has had this issue in the past and has made the needed changes.

And how would you know doofus? Lol

 

[tOSUGrad90]

Don't preach to me, Antifa boy, TVZ. West Virginia has a lot of challenges to diversifying its economy--as you know, being a Marshall alumnus--but killing some of its best-paying jobs without providing an adequate substitute is not the solution, and a horrible strategy.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

You believe the propaganda...
When politics cause you to turn against things you care about something is wrong.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

You believe the propaganda...
When politics cause you to turn against things you care about something is wrong.

Well the administration is turning on the fans, over politics...so that just shows what they think of the fans.

Some people don't stoop to arson and rioting to send a message, we will protest with our wallets. WVU can see if our void is filled.

I'm not obligated to fund their political agendas, and I'm uninterested in political finger waving from a football coach.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

I don't care what you believe but if you believe something make sure it is correct.
I do know we have zero idea who is committing the crimes. Could be anyone.

On the other side. Black players don't see BLM the same as you. If you cannot see that you are allowing hate to control how you see the world

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

You are making the stereotypes about WV and WVU true.
When people say don't play there because that state is nothing but a bunch of bigots and racist. You can either make this true or change it. Some of you want to be vocal about all of this and your support for Donald Trump but you actually don't care how it is damaging the university and the state.
Even Mississippi isn't that stupid.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

I don't care what you believe but if you believe something make sure it is correct.
I do know we have zero idea who is committing the crimes. Could be anyone.

On the other side. Black players don't see BLM the same as you. If you cannot see that you are allowing hate to control how you see the world

Fine. We see it differently. Honestly I'm totally comfortable with that. They can have their view and others can have their own. But other people aren't obligated to fund political agendas. This is just football, which is suppose to be enjoyable. It has become unenjoyable so I will just find something else to do with my time and dollars...which seems pretty darn reasonable to me.

I'm not bothered by the opinions and beliefs of the players themselves. I am bothered that a coaching staff and school administration is making political stances and using the team and university to advance their own political agendas.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

You are making the stereotypes about WV and WVU true.
When people say don't play there because that state is nothing but a bunch of bigots and racist. You can either make this true or change it. Some of you want to be vocal about all of this and your support for Donald Trump but you actually don't care how it is damaging the university and the state.
Even Mississippi isn't that stupid.

When you make something political, it will always be met with a political response. Which is why some things should remain politically neutral.