Neal brown ranked in top25

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NB is going to start pinging on some radars. Maybe Purdue, Wake Forest, BC, Vandy, Mizzou, etc...

If I were him I'd beat down Houston's door.

Forget going to a lower tier P5 to try and boost your career. Houston is where it's at. Great foundation in place. Nationally known and respected thanks to Sumlin, Briles, and now Herman. All the talent you could need with in the city limits, relatively easy schedule.

Cougars may be in play for a bigger name though. Wouldn't surprise me if they swung for the fences this off season.
 

yoshukai

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Numbers don't always tell the story. We haven't had a QB to do that, Nor an oline in order to be able to run things the way they want to. A great coach adjusts. Which is probably why Stoops is much happier with Gran as he has shown to be able to adapt.
I think the lack of depth on defense is the main factor .
 
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sluggercatfan

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NB is going to start pinging on some radars. Maybe Purdue, Wake Forest, BC, Vandy, Mizzou, etc...

If I were him I'd beat down Houston's door.

Forget going to a lower tier P5 to try and boost your career. Houston is where it's at. Great foundation in place. Nationally known and respected thanks to Sumlin, Briles, and now Herman. All the talent you could need with in the city limits, relatively easy schedule.

Cougars may be in play for a bigger name though. Wouldn't surprise me if they swung for the fences this off season.
The TTech may be open this spring...they loved NB there
 

Kats23

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People should have no problem with Neil Brown if he were to become the next head coach. Remember, he was hired before Stoops so you know Mitch likes him
 

cat_in_the_hat

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He's already accomplished more than Stoops and Joker
I love Neal Brown. However, doing it at Troy and in the SEC at UK are two completely different things. Doing one, doesn't mean you can do the other. That being said, I would be happy to see him get a shot if Stoops fails.
 
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lz

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I like coach brown, but he also has 30 junior and seniors in the two deep. This isn't a team he completely built himself. Had a good year but a lot can change in the next two years also.
He obviously coached them well, took over a team on the downward swing.
 

merrimanm

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I thought you had info on Barker, before his surgery was announced. IIRC
I did. But that was a rare occasion. I know a few people who have some connections, but I still take everything with a grain of salt. So I don't ever claim to be an insider. But as a coach in the state, I hear a lot of things.
 

Mike-D

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I love Neal Brown. However, doing it at Troy and in the SEC at UK are two completely different things. Doing one, doesn't mean you can do the other. That being said, I would be happy to see him get a shot if Stoops fails.

Stoops would have blew it up at Troy.

Signed,

Pumpers for life.
 

sluggercatfan

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I love Neal Brown. However, doing it at Troy and in the SEC at UK are two completely different things. Doing one, doesn't mean you can do the other. That being said, I would be happy to see him get a shot if Stoops fails.
Keep hearing the same thing about Mike Leach and now he's on his second gig and doing just fine
 

jauk11

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I just wonder why people that know something that no one else knows can never divulge it, and why they bother to bring it up since they can't talk about it. And yet, here we are talking about it, LOL.

Not sure why we are always bringing up the latest hot coach although since mitch was forced to spend some money and an obscene amount has become available UK isn't that bad a place to land any more, and I believe whether Stoops makes it or not he will leave UK in better shape not only talent wise but in coaches seeing the potential here that he saw first.

That said I hope Neal is a huge success and does come home some day. Congrats on his high ranking.
 

51stFan

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Tempo is not the way to go when you don't have outstanding QB play. Ask Gran or Brown. Let up on Stoops as far as slow tempo this season is concerned.

Not saying it's the wrong thing to do, but regardless of QB play , Stoops is not going to let them play the tempo that he had at Cincy. It's not a coincidence that Dawson an Gran both play much slower here than at other places. Its more than just personnel. I could actually care less how many times they snap it if they win.
 

Blueaz

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Not saying it's the wrong thing to do, but regardless of QB play , Stoops is not going to let them play the tempo that he had at Cincy. It's not a coincidence that Dawson an Gran both play much slower here than at other places. Its more than just personnel. I could actually care less how many times they snap it if they win.
I don't totally disagree; however with our shortcomings on D..,up tempo offense (3 and outs) puts too much pressure on them.
Next year SHOULD be different. Offense should not be as stagnate and defensive should be more capable and sold.
If not...it will all be on CMS
 

merrimanm

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I don't totally disagree; however with our shortcomings on D..,up tempo offense (3 and outs) puts too much pressure on them.
Next year SHOULD be different. Offense should not be as stagnate and defensive should be more capable and sold.
If not...it will all be on CMS
Our offense hasn't been stagnant. But you are right. Our defense needs to continue to improve and they will. Look how much they have improved over the course of this year. With extra bowl practices and another year to get stronger and work on techniques and film, they will be better.
 

Blueaz

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Our offense hasn't been stagnant. But you are right. Our defense needs to continue to improve and they will. Look how much they have improved over the course of this year. With extra bowl practices and another year to get stronger and work on techniques and film, they will be better.
I hope my "should" equals your "they will".
I really don't want to start 2018 season with a new coach.
 
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Neil needs to parlay this season into a better job next year. He has one of the most experienced teams in the country with a load of redshirt seniors, seniors and redshirt juniors. I believe he will struggle next year after they lose all that experience.
 

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Not saying it's the wrong thing to do, but regardless of QB play , Stoops is not going to let them play the tempo that he had at Cincy. It's not a coincidence that Dawson an Gran both play much slower here than at other places. Its more than just personnel. I could actually care less how many times they snap it if they win.
Probably not, but faster than we play presently, and perhaps pedal to the metal at times, just to put a defense on its heels with the change of pace. People will spend less time prepping for pace if it is not universal.
 

sluggercatfan

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I love Neal Brown. However, doing it at Troy and in the SEC at UK are two completely different things. Doing one, doesn't mean you can do the other. That being said, I would be happy to see him get a shot if Stoops fails.
????? I don't understand this theory. I believe BP, ML and NB would all be successful at UK. Why you ask? All believe in offense and plenty of it. ML had a great record at TTech and went to bowl games several years in a row.
 

sluggercatfan

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Joker's team was ranked 6 while OC. Stoops had top defenses everywhere and was a big reason FSU had their big run.

Also, he took over a program with good tradition a solid recruiting grounds and plays in a much weaker conference. Easier to what he has done when you are in a league where you have been one of the top dogs as opposed to one where you have been one of the weakest. Not taking away from Brown. He has done a nice job. He has proven to be much better at head coach than Joker for sure. But not Stoops.
Head Coach...
 

sluggercatfan

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So, you are stating Neal can transition from winning in a small conference to the SEC and steamroll his way to football immortality? I give Neal all congratulations on his success. Yet, once again your opinions are so far off the realm of reality that reading your posts are entertaining at best.
Hugh Freeze is doing quite well at Miss with a similar system and he came up small. If you know your stuff you can be successful anywhere...
 

cat_in_the_hat

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????? I don't understand this theory. I believe BP, ML and NB would all be successful at UK. Why you ask? All believe in offense and plenty of it. ML had a great record at TTech and went to bowl games several years in a row.
I never said they couldn't succeed at UK. I said doing it at Troy doesn't mean he can do it here. It's not the same thing. If and when the time comes, we will have to pick the next head coach and he certainly should be on the list. However, acting like any of these coaches would, with certainty, be having much greater success than Stoops, is just not realistic. It's equivalent to saying that if we would only play the back-up quarterback we would be competitive with anyone we play. It's always easier to argue that the path you didn't take would have turned out better. But people who really believe that their choices would always be the most productive choice is living in a fantasy world. I'm not saying you believe that, just making the point that some people seem to think if they were AD UK would be winning the east on a regular basis. It's a much harder job to make a perpetual loser into a winner than many want to admit.
 

sluggercatfan

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I never said they couldn't succeed at UK. I said doing it at Troy doesn't mean he can do it here. It's not the same thing. If and when the time comes, we will have to pick the next head coach and he certainly should be on the list. However, acting like any of these coaches would, with certainty, be having much greater success than Stoops, is just not realistic. It's equivalent to saying that if we would only play the back-up quarterback we would be competitive with anyone we play. It's always easier to argue that the path you didn't take would have turned out better. But people who really believe that their choices would always be the most productive choice is living in a fantasy world. I'm not saying you believe that, just making the point that some people seem to think if they were AD UK would be winning the east on a regular basis. It's a much harder job to make a perpetual loser into a winner than many want to admit.
I can say I would :joy::joy::smiley::sunglasses:because unless my boss told me no, Bobby Petrino or Mike Leach would be on the sideline. Not saying we would be winning sec east on a regular basis , but would be in the mix especially as weak as it is at the moment :football::football::boxing: