Nebraska's current program culture

[ehenningsen_rivals]

This is a multi-year project that goes beyond the fixing by Scott and staff. There are going to be changes within the AD that will require time and patience.

We must be very patient. Like 5+ years here. Our last AD created a culture of no accountability.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

This is a multi-year project that goes beyond the fixing by Scott and staff. There are going to be changes within the AD that will require time and patience.

We must be very patient. Like 5+ years here. Our last AD created a culture of no accountability.

Exactly. 5 years minimum before things can start getting turned in the right direction. We need to be very patient now for the foreseeable future and hope for the very best.

 

[coachDubs]

More excuses before Frost is named.

 

[Husker4real_rivals373787]

5 years to do what, exactly? If you mean 5 years to be contending for the playoff- that makes sense. I hope you don’t mean 5 years to return to a bowl game or win the West.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

SE was super creepy we all know that. But he gone. Riley was a horrible hire and horrible coach but he was a normal person. The program was broken because of SE and his super creepy ways...that is gone. The team was broken because Riley is a really average coach. That is gone.

There are no excuses...there were no excuses for Riley even though some super nerds bought into this weird idea of toxins...when it was convenient for them.

Frost is coming here to win and win a lot. That starts right away, he doesn't get a "Riley Reset" where he tanks year one because he is so bad that an average year two looks amazing.

No excuses anymore. The Big Ten West is weaker than my sperm count. Winning the west is like taking the high school sloot to prom...it should be a sure thing if you have ANY game at all.

 

[@Dean Callahan]

This is a multi-year project that goes beyond the fixing by Scott and staff. There are going to be changes within the AD that will require time and patience.

We must be very patient. Like 5+ years here. Our last AD created a culture of no accountability.

Wow, you are already making excuses for Frost or the Athletic Department? I think that is a loser mentality if you are saying it will take 5 yrs to fix the system. The right leader, and I think we finally have a good AD in Bill Moos, should be able to get our athletic department turned around sooner than that. Football might take a couple years but there is quite a bit of young talent on the roster plus the players aren't cancerous like they were when Riley inherited Pelini's scraps. Basketball has plenty of talent if we get the right coach. Pieces are in place, all we were missing was the right leader and coaches. GBR

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Wow, you are already making excuses for Frost or the Athletic Department? I think that is a loser mentality if you are saying it will take 5 yrs to fix the system. The right leader, and I think we finally have a good AD in Bill Moos, should be able to get our athletic department turned around sooner than that. Football might take a couple years but there is quite a bit of young talent on the roster plus the players aren't cancerous like they were when Riley inherited Pelini's scraps. Basketball has plenty of talent if we get the right coach. Pieces are in place, all we were missing was the right leader and coaches. GBR

NOOOO...Stop this!

No excuses for Riley, none for Frost.

 

[@Dean Callahan]

NOOOO...Stop this!

No excuses for Riley, none for Frost.

I'm a Businessman, there are no excuses in my world. Frost is sitting in a pretty nice position by inheriting some good talent. Lots to work with so we should hit the ground running. I liked Riley as a person but was obvious he wasn't the fit we needed anymore as a coach. Frost is next man up and walks into an underperforming team that has the weapons to score some points with the correct coach. I'm not making excuses or trying to put unrealistic expectations either. I think if his staff does a good job we will turn this around sooner than later. GBR

 

[ehenningsen_rivals]

Wow, you are already making excuses for Frost or the Athletic Department? I think that is a loser mentality if you are saying it will take 5 yrs to fix the system. The right leader, and I think we finally have a good AD in Bill Moos, should be able to get our athletic department turned around sooner than that. Football might take a couple years but there is quite a bit of young talent on the roster plus the players aren't cancerous like they were when Riley inherited Pelini's scraps. Basketball has plenty of talent if we get the right coach. Pieces are in place, all we were missing was the right leader and coaches. GBR

The whole institution, as a whole, was failing due to the leadership which trickled down into the various programs that were not already humming (volleyball etc)..

The players are out of shape, their mental and physical development was stunted. Part of the blame was the previous staff, but the other part was due to the overall atmosphere that was synthesized by the AD.

No excuses, just remember that Scott is being dealt a bad hand by the previous administration. Things are getting righted, however, it needs a bit of time to get the right pieces and relearning and catching up (player development, both physical and mental).

 

[catch54]

This is a multi-year project that goes beyond the fixing by Scott and staff. There are going to be changes within the AD that will require time and patience.

We must be very patient. Like 5+ years here. Our last AD created a culture of no accountability.

Honestly I'm afraid Scott won't run the ball enough. But hardly anyone else does either. Except for Navy, Army and Air Force.

 

[ehenningsen_rivals]

Honestly I'm afraid Scott won't run the ball enough. But hardly anyone else does either. Except for Navy, Army and Air Force.

Any offense can work here IMO. Fixing what is here is what I was referring to. There are players here that are mentally/physically worse off than they were in high school. We are in a hole. The only way to make it up the mountain is going to require getting out of the trenches first.

 

[Sinomatic]

Yes, Frost gets lots of slack.

Riley didn't get slack because he has always produced poorly. For him it was a now or never deal.

Pelini did get slack, 7 friggin years of beating no one worth beating. People don't care about wins over Akron if the wins against highly rated teams don't come. Accepting a 9 win total over nobody's is not worth keeping if you're in it to win it.

Callahan didn't win well either.

Solich, you could see the writing on the wall. Plus he hasn't done a whole lot since then to justify keeping him in hindsight anyway.

Scott was already booed once without deserving it and won Nebraska a NC Title. Time to pay him back with patients this time.

 

[RedMyMind]

Any offense can work here IMO. Fixing what is here is what I was referring to. There are players here that are mentally/physically worse off than they were in high school. We are in a hole. The only way to make it up the mountain is going to require getting out of the trenches first.

I'm actually excited that Frost is inheriting a pretty good gig. Fresh clean start with lowered expectations and talented underclassmen.

 

[inWV]

More excuses before Frost is named.

Doubt Frost is into excuses. There is talent to on the team to win now. I am looking forward to it.

 

[GOBLUEDAVID]

This is a multi-year project that goes beyond the fixing by Scott and staff. There are going to be changes within the AD that will require time and patience.

We must be very patient. Like 5+ years here. Our last AD created a culture of no accountability.

IMHO

7-10 years

Takes 3-5 years to firmly establish 'ETHIC'

Another 3 to firmly reestablish 'ETHOS'

Then the two begin to feed into and off each other....creating a dynasty.

 

[LPTC1]

Take it to the bank that we win at least 9 next season at a MINIMUM! Good lord guys this isn’t Kansas. It’s not going to take 5 years to turn it around to being competitive.

 

[Nate004]

Moos seems to think 3 years is enough and is on record saying things will be in good shape by year 5. So those are my expectations. Stop moving the goalposts.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Moos seems to think 3 years is enough and is on record saying things will be in good shape by year 5. So those are my expectations. Stop moving the goalposts.

Now I changed my mind to 10 years as the poster up above convinced me. We are in such a bad spot. The program is barely even a thing anymore. Honestly it will be a miracle if we can even field a team next year, but I believe Frost will have guys playing both ways so we at least don't have to forfeit any games.
So with that, check back in 2027.

 

[NeverTellMeTheOdds]

If he goes 4-8 in year 3 and the whole thing looks like a train wreck, my patience will be used up.

The ‘18 schedule is tough, but there are wins out there. 3-0 non-con and wins vs. NW, MN, ILL, and PU sets the bar at 7.

No excuses. Let’s go.

 

[ehenningsen_rivals]

If he goes 4-8 in year 3 and the whole thing looks like a train wreck, my patience will be used up.

The ‘18 schedule is tough, but there are wins out there. 3-0 non-con and wins vs. NW, MN, ILL, and PU sets the bar at 7.

No excuses. Let’s go.

Agreed. What I mean is that we cannot expect too much. I could live with a 7-5 record in year three

 

[Lord Ace]

I think people are patient as long as what they see makes sense. Let's hope Frost can bring back common sense to the program.

 

[GOBLUEDAVID]

Now I changed my mind to 10 years as the poster up above convinced me. We are in such a bad spot. The program is barely even a thing anymore. Honestly it will be a miracle if we can even field a team next year, but I believe Frost will have guys playing both ways so we at least don't have to forfeit any games.
So with that, check back in 2027.

ETHIC 10 years

1962 Nebraska 9–2 5–2 3rd W Gotham
1963 Nebraska 10–1 7–0 1st W Orange 5 6
1964 Nebraska 9–2 6–1 1st L Cotton 6 6
1965 Nebraska 10–1 7–0 1st L Orange 3 5
1966 Nebraska 9–2 6–1 1st L Sugar 7 6
1967 Nebraska 6–4 3–4 5th

1968 Nebraska 6–4 3–4 T–4th

1969 Nebraska 9–2 6–1 T–1st W Sun 12 11
1970 Nebraska 11–0–1 7–0 1st W Orange 3 1
1971 Nebraska 13–0 7–0 1st W Orange 1 1
1972 Nebraska 9–2–1 5–1–1 1st W Orange 9 4

ETHOS 10 years
Nebraska Cornhuskers (Big Eight Conference) (1973–1995)ci
1973 Nebraska 9–2–1 4–2–1 T–2nd W Cotton 11T 7
1974 Nebraska 9–3 5–2 T–2nd W Sugar 9 8
1975 Nebraska 10–2 6–1 T–1st L Fiesta 9 9
1976 Nebraska 9–3–1 4–3 T–4th W Astro-Bluebonnet 7 9
1977 Nebraska 9–3 5–2 T–2nd W Liberty 10 12
1978 Nebraska 9–3 6–1 T–1st L Orange 8 8
1979 Nebraska 10–2 6–1 2nd L Cotton 7 9
1980 Nebraska 10–2 6–1 2nd W Sun 7 7
1981 Nebraska 9–3 7–0 1st L Orange 9 11
1982 Nebraska 12–1 7–0 1st W Orange 3 3
1983 Nebraska 12–1 7–0 1st L Orange 2 2

ETHIC AND ETHOS forward...

1984 Nebraska 10–2 6–1 T–1st W Sugar 3 4
1985 Nebraska 9–3 6–1 2nd L Fiesta 10 11
1986 Nebraska 10–2 5–2 3rd W Sugar 4 5
1987 Nebraska 10–2 6–1 2nd L Fiesta 6 6
1988 Nebraska 11–2 7–0 1st L Orange 10 10
1989 Nebraska 10–2 6–1 2nd L Fiesta 12 11
1990 Nebraska 9–3 5–2 3rd L Florida Citrus 17T 24
1991 Nebraska 9–2–1 6–0–1 T–1st L Orange 16 15
1992 Nebraska 9–3 6–1 1st L Orange† 14 14
1993 Nebraska 11–1 7–0 1st L Orange† 3 3
1994 Nebraska 13–0 7–0 1st W Orange† 1 1
1995 Nebraska 12–0 7–0 1st W Fiesta† 1 1
Nebraska Cornhuskers (Big 12 Conference) (1996–1997)
1996 Nebraska 11–2 8–0 1st (North) W Orange† 6 6
1997 Nebraska 13–0 8–0 1st (North) W Orange† 1 2
Nebraska: 255–49–3 160–23–2
Total: 255–49–3

 

[spinner4_rivals42045]

Frost doesn’t get an off year. Well maybe year one. But every year after that there needs to be improvement. I’m not talking unrealistic goals. I’m talking seeing better blocking...Better tackling... Less penalties... Players finishing...in year 2, then year1. And better in year 3 then 2, and so on.

I don’t think people should expect us to be Bama in 2 or 3 years. Hell, I am ok if Frost’s program is growing in year 5, as long as we keep seeing improvement until we are where we need to be.

That was Riley’s problem. It wasn’t because we weren’t playing for National championship or even a B1G title, it was his teams weren’t getting better. They were getting worse, If anything. It shouldn’t be like that and if you think that will happen under Frost, you don’t know Frost. Our players will be better

 

[GOBLUEDAVID]

I know many have no idea what it really takes to form a dynasty.... but its spelled this way....

T I M E.....

Build a world class ethic into every phase of your program.

The wins will come.....

As player leaders are 'made' ...they take over the Ethic....

As the seasons go by with stability of coaching and Ethic.... titles become more abundant...

..and as titles become more abundant.....players are 'locked in' to the ETHIC.....

....At this point ETHOS (the expectation to win) and the 'fear' of the machine that has be forged takes hold of CF.....

Powerful stuff.... once in a generation stuff....

We have another chance with Coach Frost.... I can see him here for 25 years....

Establishing a dynasty......

Or we can just put all our eggs in getting 7 or more wins over the next two years.....

Time.
No other way.
Ever.

 

[ehenningsen_rivals]

Frost doesn’t get an off year. Well maybe year one. But every year after that there needs to be improvement. I’m not talking realistic goals. I’m talking seeing better blocking...Better tackling... Less penalties... Players finishing...in year 2, then year1. And better in year 3 then 2, and so on.

I don’t think people should expect us to be Bama in 2 or 3 years. Hell, I am ok if Frost’s program is growing in year 5, as long as we keep seeing improvement until we are where we need to be.

That was Riley’s problem. It wasn’t because we weren’t playing for National championship or even a B1G title, it was his teams weren’t getting better. They were getting worse, If anything. It shouldn’t be like that and if you think that will happen under Frost, you don’t know Frost. Our players will be better

Agreed. It's about establishing in year one. Fixing in year 2. Building in year 3+...

Improvements should be noticed. Remember that improvements aren't necessarily going to be completely linear, there will be an up/down ride as we continuously improve.

 

[bigbadjim990]

This is a multi-year project that goes beyond the fixing by Scott and staff. There are going to be changes within the AD that will require time and patience.

We must be very patient. Like 5+ years here. Our last AD created a culture of no accountability.

We should be bowl eligible next year in my opinion.

 

[ssmill777]

Honestly I'm afraid Scott won't run the ball enough. But hardly anyone else does either. Except for Navy, Army and Air Force.

Scott's film is out there to see. He will run/throw depending on defensive alignment. If the defense tries to take one facet away, they will get burnt in another. All he needs is a good dual-threat QB. It's mostly Kelly's offense. Go to Husker Chalk talk by RKay and look at his excellent breakdown of Frost's philosophy. Oct. 22, 2017 edition. Solid

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

I know many have no idea what it really takes to form a dynasty.... but its spelled this way....

T I M E.....

Build a world class ethic into every phase of your program.

The wins will come.....

As player leaders are 'made' ...they take over the Ethic....

As the seasons go by with stability of coaching and Ethic.... titles become more abundant...

..and as titles become more abundant.....players are 'locked in' to the ETHIC.....

....At this point ETHOS (the expectation to win) and the 'fear' of the machine that has be forged takes hold of CF.....

Powerful stuff.... once in a generation stuff....

We have another chance with Coach Frost.... I can see him here for 25 years....

Establishing a dynasty......

Or we can just put all our eggs in getting 7 or more wins over the next two years.....

Time.
No other way.
Ever.

No thanks to any of your fluff.

 

[GOBLUEDAVID]

No thanks to any of your fluff.

Pelini....yea....what are 'facts' anyway...

 

[meo1960]

SE was super creepy we all know that. But he gone. Riley was a horrible hire and horrible coach but he was a normal person. The program was broken because of SE and his super creepy ways...that is gone. The team was broken because Riley is a really average coach. That is gone.

There are no excuses...there were no excuses for Riley even though some super nerds bought into this weird idea of toxins...when it was convenient for them.

Frost is coming here to win and win a lot. That starts right away, he doesn't get a "Riley Reset" where he tanks year one because he is so bad that an average year two looks amazing.

No excuses anymore. The Big Ten West is weaker than my sperm count. Winning the west is like taking the high school sloot to prom...it should be a sure thing if you have ANY game at all.

Yeah, Scott should be able to come in here and in year 1 defeat a playoff team(assuming they win Sat) & Iowa & Northwestern, all AWAY games for us - NO EXCUSES. Yep, that should be simple since Riley obviously came here to lose! That won't happen to Scott-hes coming to WIN!

Oh, and that's just to win our division. We're Nebraska. Everyone knows that winning a minimum of 9 games here is as easy as rolling out of bed in the morning.

To win the conference, we have to contend with that other division which consists mostly of the little sisters of the poor(@Michigan, @Ohio State, Michigan State), and if Penn St. makes it to the Conference Title Game, no problem. Yep, that 2018 schedule should be a walk in the park and if Scott doesn't come in here and win 8, 9 or 10 games in 2018, I say we make sure everyone that reads this board knows how disappointed we are ;0)

2018 Football Schedule
Sat 9/1 Akron
Sat, 9/8 Colorado
Sat, 9/15 Troy
Sat, 9/22 @Michigan
Sat, 9/29 Purdue
Sat, 10/6 @Wisconsin
Sat, 10/13 @Northwestern
Sat, 10/20 Minnesota
bye
Sat, 11/3 03 @Ohio St
Sat, 11/10 Illinois
Sat, 11/17 Michigan St
Fri, 11/23 @Iowa

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

Pelini....yea....what are 'facts' anyway...

You had a fact in your post? Must have missed it. Could you point it out for me please? Thanks in advance.

 

[GOBLUEDAVID]

You had a fact in your post? Must have missed it. Could you point it out for me please? Thanks in advance.

Pointing out.....

Over thirty years Pelini...from start to Dynasty ...the effort by two great coaches and proud players did this over TIME.....

Maybe you think it just 'happened' ......no....it was built.... one year at a time.

We are bringing in the perfect coach in Scott Frost....if we give him the time he needs....we will have another dynasty....one day. Until then...its going to be a most exhilaration ride.....

Best to you.

 

[Foosball is the devil]

Pointing out.....

Over thirty years Pelini...from start to Dynasty ...the effort by two great coaches and proud players did this over TIME.....

Maybe you think it just 'happened' ......no....it was built.... one year at a time.

We are bringing in the perfect coach in Scott Frost....if we give him the time he needs....we will have another dynasty....one day. Until then...its going to be a most exhilaration ride.....

Best to you.

Don't get why you say “we” and call yourself go blue. Wtf

 

[GOBLUEDAVID]

Don't get why you say “we” and call yourself go blue. Wtf

Every longtime Husker fan has to have 'red' in their handle.....?

 

[huskerfan1414]

I think the offseason will be a good time to have a thread laying everyone's parameters for what they believe improvement looks like an an expectation time table for getting us to top ten seasons and playoff chances, conference titles, etc.
I think we will all know what measurable progress looks like.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

Pointing out.....

Over thirty years Pelini...from start to Dynasty ...the effort by two great coaches and proud players did this over TIME.....

Maybe you think it just 'happened' ......no....it was built.... one year at a time.

We are bringing in the perfect coach in Scott Frost....if we give him the time he needs....we will have another dynasty....one day. Until then...its going to be a most exhilaration ride.....

Best to you.

You are clearly a great dude. Remind me of George Carlin in Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure...best to you also my man!

 

[TribecaHusker]

We need to see basic improvements right away; better toughness and blowout elimination. If we are competitive but lose a few, the fanbase will understand. Titles should come as the culture changes and talent improves over the next 3-5 years. Riley’s problem was that we were weak, regressed and established no identity. Bo’s problem was his temperament and unsuitability as a head coach (though he was always a good defensive coach). I think Coach Frost solves both of these problems.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

We need to see basic improvements right away; better toughness and blowout elimination. If we are competitive but lose a few, the fanbase will understand. Titles should come as the culture changes and talent improves over the next 3-5 years. Riley’s problem was that we were weak, regressed and established no identity. Bo’s problem was his temperament and unsuitability as a head coach (though he was always a good defensive coach). I think Coach Frost solves both of these problems.

Pelini was a defensive coach?

 

[GeorgeFlippin]

This is a multi-year project that goes beyond the fixing by Scott and staff. There are going to be changes within the AD that will require time and patience.

We must be very patient. Like 5+ years here. Our last AD created a culture of no accountability.

It's not going to take 5 years for Moos and Frost to gain accountability back for the program. We've already seen things changing for the better with the hiring of Moos, Frost will have the players attention quite quickly and you will notice improvement as quick as spring football, that you can be sure of.

I'm not saying that a 10 win season is coming for 2018, but a much improved team will take the field none the less.

 

[RedMyMind]

Pelini was a defensive coach?

When he didn't have amazing players like Suh and Glen Dorsey, he was average at best.