Nepotism

[RUChet]

Serious question here

Is it normal for college sports program to practice nepotism or is this a Schiano thing?

it should be allowed

I’ve worked for 5 companies and it’s not allowed - period.

How can RU let him hire all these family members?

It’s just not ok. Period

 

[NickRU714]

I know we mock Schiano for it but I think it is very common.

We just only hear about it with other teams when its successful.

 

[rutgersguy2]

Kendal Briles was on Art Briles staff and so was Jeff Lebby his son in law but they’ve both been successful coordinators after Art got booted.

Paterno had his son on staff, even an unsuccessful OC stint iirc.

Ferentz the same with his son and his atrocious OC stint.

Bill Snyder and his son too.

I’m sure there are others who aren’t as high profile. Schiano and his family we know because we’re fans but most of country wouldn’t have a clue about it. Similarly we wouldn’t know about other staffs.

 

[kupuna133]

I know we mock Schiano for it but I think it is very common.

We just only hear about it with other teams when it’s successful.

It’s not uncommon for kids to follow their father into the coaching profession. But it is not common for the children to gain their experience with their father. It is generally looked down upon to hire one much less 4 children of people on staff in their first coaching roles.
Go out get experience somewhere else prove yourself and we may bring you back. Greg could have picked up the phone and got them on staff at many programs at multiple levels. This is a thumb your nose I’m the boss mentality. That will lead to his demise.

 

[kupuna133]

Kendal Briles was on Art Briles staff and so was Jeff Lebby his son in law but they’ve both been successful coordinators after Art got booted.

Paterno had his son on staff, even an unsuccessful OC stint iirc.

Ferentz the same with his son and his atrocious OC stint.

Bill Snyder and his son too.

I’m sure there are others who aren’t as high profile. Schiano and his family we know because we’re fans but most of country wouldn’t have a clue about it. Similarly we wouldn’t know about other staffs.

Many of the names you mention did not start their careers under their father. They proved themselves and were hired down the road. Even Paterno didn’t hire his son without experience. And he ran that university and no one would have questioned him.

Frank Beamer did an interview many years ago about this very subject and why Shane wasn’t on his staff. And he said that’s just not how it’s done. He knows how I coach and handle my program. It’s time for him to go out and learn from someone else. Plus he didn’t want to answer to mom when he had to reprimand him.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Very, very common.

 

[rutgersguy2]

It’s not uncommon for kids to follow their father into the coaching profession. But it is not common for the children to gain their experience with their father. It is generally looked down upon to hire one much less 4 children of people on staff in their first coaching roles.
Go out get experience somewhere else prove yourself and we may bring you back. Greg could have picked up the phone and got them on staff at many programs at multiple levels. This is a thumb your nose I’m the boss mentality. That will lead to his demise.

Others that come to mind are Stoops with his brother and Beamer with his son too I think.

But you’re right, I think they often use their connections to help land them on other staffs.

I don’t know how many start of their family members’s staffs.

I suppose you need to have a network though.

 

[kupuna133]

Others that come to mind are Stoops with his brother and Beamer with his son too I think.

But you’re right, I think they often use their connections to help land them on other staffs.

I don’t know how many start of their family members’s staffs.

I suppose you need to have a network though.

Buddy of mines dad was a d1 AD. He wouldn’t even allow his son to be on staff of people in his own conference. Sent him to Iowa. Hahahah
And Beamer is on record with his stance. Posted above.

 

[RUChet]

But why is it ok in sports but not in any major company?

There is too much of a chance of favoritism and emotional ties getting in the way of the right thing to do

it shouldn’t be allowed except in a private business of which RU obviously is not - they are state of nj employees

 

[tico brown]

Many of the names you mention did not start their careers under their father. They proved themselves and were hired down the road. Even Paterno didn’t hire his son without experience. And he ran that university and no one would have questioned him.

Frank Beamer did an interview many years ago about this very subject and why Shane wasn’t on his staff. And he said that’s just not how it’s done. He knows how I coach and handle my program. It’s time for him to go out and learn from someone else. Plus he didn’t want to answer to mom when he had to reprimand him.

Is it a good or bad thing that none of Schiano’s sons even had a coaching job elsewhere?

And let’s hope that ESPN or worse yet NJ Com get a hold of this little tidbit.

 

[kupuna133]

Is it a good or bad thing that none of Schiano’s sons even had a coaching job elsewhere?

And let’s hope that ESPN or worse yet NJ Com get a hold of this little tidbit.

You tell me? Don’t think you should ever hire a relative without experience. Easy enough to make a call.
Many years ago had an intern, which was the son of the founder and CEO. Kid was aces. Gap year between secondary and university (London based firm)Dad was a billionaire. Even he knew that he wasn’t welcome at the family business, global presence 7500 employees worldwide, without experience. He was fully expecting to have to get 3-5 years experience minimum before he was welcome back.

 

[tico brown]

Don’t ask me. Ask the Division 1 coaches mentioned above who DIDNT have their sons on their staffs.

I worked for a HC who never had his relative on his staff because it wasn’t “MAKE A WISH.”

 

[RU#1fan]

It’s not uncommon for kids to follow their father into the coaching profession. But it is not common for the children to gain their experience with their father. It is generally looked down upon to hire one much less 4 children of people on staff in their first coaching roles.
Go out get experience somewhere else prove yourself and we may bring you back. Greg could have picked up the phone and got them on staff at many programs at multiple levels. This is a thumb your nose I’m the boss mentality. That will lead to his demise.

Picked up the phone and got them jobs on Staffs? LMAO
Just like all his calls that were not returned to fill Coaching roles.

 

[kupuna133]

Picked up the phone and got them jobs on Staffs? LMAO
Just like all his calls that were not returned to fill Coaching roles.

Easier to convince someone to take a shot on a kid. And to hire someone to get coffees and set up cones than it is to make someone uproot their family and make a career change.

 

[Fat Koko]

This has been well known for years and I posted about it last year. Greg evades Rutgers anti-nepotism policy by having his sons’ contract state they report to Matt Colagiovanni. Here is the post…

Greg didn't just hire his son, he hired all three of them. The Rutgers anti-nepotism policy does not allow this but somehow Greg gets away with it.

Here is what the policy states:

"Members of the same family or household may not be selected for faculty or staff positions if selection would create a supervisor/subordinate relationship between family and household members."

The employment contracts for Greg's kids expire on February 28, 2026. Keli could establish her authority with Greg by not extending the contracts. To be clear, Richie reports the kids know ball and I am not suggesting they are unqualified for their current roles. Their salaries are not obscene and appear to be at or close to market.

 

[RUAldo]

This has been well known for years and I posted about it last year. Greg evades Rutgers anti-nepotism policy by having his sons’ contract state they report to Matt Colagiovanni. Here is the post…

Greg didn't just hire his son, he hired all three of them. The Rutgers anti-nepotism policy does not allow this but somehow Greg gets away with it.

Here is what the policy states:

"Members of the same family or household may not be selected for faculty or staff positions if selection would create a supervisor/subordinate relationship between family and household members."

The employment contracts for Greg's kids expire on February 28, 2026. Keli could establish her authority with Greg by not extending the contracts. To be clear, Richie reports the kids know ball and I am not suggesting they are unqualified for their current roles. Their salaries are not obscene and appear to be at or close to market.

Don’t know how I missed this conflict of interest and waste of resources BS. More importantly, where is Politi when we actually need him?! Why not turn up the heat on Schiano & Sons since he just burned down the program.

 

[Dowling's Revenge]

I mentioned this in the other thread but I work at a small public college in New Jersey and we have strict nepotism rules. I was told I couldn't hire a full-time professor's wife to adjunct for a one-off class, and she was totally qualified. What greg is doing seems pretty shady

 

[JRZEER]

Happens everywhere.

 

[tico brown]

This has been well known for years and I posted about it last year. Greg evades Rutgers anti-nepotism policy by having his sons’ contract state they report to Matt Colagiovanni. Here is the post…

Greg didn't just hire his son, he hired all three of them. The Rutgers anti-nepotism policy does not allow this but somehow Greg gets away with it.

Here is what the policy states:

"Members of the same family or household may not be selected for faculty or staff positions if selection would create a supervisor/subordinate relationship between family and household members."

The employment contracts for Greg's kids expire on February 28, 2026. Keli could establish her authority with Greg by not extending the contracts. To be clear, Richie reports the kids know ball and I am not suggesting they are unqualified for their current roles. Their salaries are not obscene and appear to be at or close to market.

Out of all the alleged BS that NJ Com reports on Rutgers all these years but somehow missed this obvious manipulation.

 

[Fat Koko]

I worked for and invested in companies with different nepotism policies. Some are hugely successful - kid is smarter than dad. See Simon Property Group. Other families get dumber with each succeeding generation and company goes bankrupt. See CBL Properties.

Nepotism is rampant in real estate companies. Publicly traded companies are required to disclose it.

 

[Bon1674]

This has been well known for years and I posted about it last year. Greg evades Rutgers anti-nepotism policy by having his sons’ contract state they report to Matt Colagiovanni. Here is the post…

Greg didn't just hire his son, he hired all three of them. The Rutgers anti-nepotism policy does not allow this but somehow Greg gets away with it.

Here is what the policy states:

"Members of the same family or household may not be selected for faculty or staff positions if selection would create a supervisor/subordinate relationship between family and household members."

The employment contracts for Greg's kids expire on February 28, 2026. Keli could establish her authority with Greg by not extending the contracts. To be clear, Richie reports the kids know ball and I am not suggesting they are unqualified for their current roles. Their salaries are not obscene and appear to be at or close to market.

Nevertheless, there’s something to be said for the appearance of impropriety.

 

[dconifer0]

I don't know if it's good or bad to have three sons on the staff, but I had no clue that there were >1 Schianos there...

 

[Anon1754923206]

I don't know if it's good or bad to have three sons on the staff, but I had no clue that there were >1 Schianos there...

I wonder how many times they’re required to use the word chop during any given day

 

[kevin0214]

Ciarocca kid too.

 

[RUChet]

I don't know if it's good or bad to have three sons on the staff, but I had no clue that there were >1 Schianos there...

Nepotism should not be allowed - period

 

[Anon1754923206]

Nepotism should not be allowed - period

Unless a private enterprise you’re right. But it is everywhere. Politics, the vile entertainment industry to mention the more obvious ones

 

[kupuna133]

I worked for and invested in companies with different nepotism policies. Some are hugely successful - kid is smarter than dad. See Simon Property Group. Other families get dumber with each succeeding generation and company goes bankrupt. See CBL Properties.

Nepotism is rampant in real estate companies. Publicly traded companies are required to disclose it.

REITS have a long and storied history of nepotism and rewarding incompetence.

 

[rob kight]

One son’s job appears to be to help Greg’s note taking while not managing the game.
A negative for the person is they all become unemployed together.