The number of fans who seem to think that this is just how it is and nothing can be done to fix it is insane
New coach or not?
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They’ve had years to implement the changes you’re talking about, and they never did. At this point, that window has closed.
Comparing Iowa to Nebraska football is absurd and just another weak excuse to keep this circus going. If Beth has a chance to land someone like Dake, Burroughs, Nolf, or Cunningham, you take it immediately and never look back.
Okie St should be a perfect example of what can happen when you turn the page on a regime that had success but was getting stale. New blood, new faces and excitement, recruits coming galore. Okie st might not take down psu right now but I’d bet my left nut on them doing it before Iowa at this point.
There's only a handful of meaningful wresting programs out there. This isn't football. It would be extremely hard for Iowa wrestling to become irrelevant if they hire a new coach.
I like Dake but as a coach he as a lof to learn he chaces more kids away than stay. He is more like the Brands than you guys realize.
Even Rob Koll had to let him go when at Cornell and said Kyle has a lot to learn about coaching.
So maybe we all should just relax on Dake
The dream for me would be Dake as the next head coach. Idk who he’d bring in as a staff but nolf, kemdawg, and Diakomihalis would be a great staff. I know he was close with Yianni at Cornell and idk what his relationship with Nolf was being the same weight but that staff could get us back in the mix quickly. I’ve loved the brands brothers but it’s time for a change
I was under the impression that Dake left Cornell to go to the nlwc rather than Cornell letting him go.
It should also be a perfect example to Tom and Terry on how to handle this. Recognize the time is now and step aside voluntarily so it doesn’t blow up the entire program by forcing current guys to feel the need to pick a side out of loyalty.
John Smith crushed that part of it and it made the transition 10x better for everyone involved.
What, specifically, do you mean when you say they “know how to coach” or that they are “elite coaches”?
Seems like most of the time people just mean they’re friends with or devotees of Tom and Terry when they say these things. When pressed, they say things like “we’re still the 2nd best program overall if you average our NCAA finishes over the past x years” without factoring that it might not require elite coaching to put Iowa in the top 2-3 because we’re literally WrestleTown, USA.
When there’s only a few Ferraris on the track, don’t you think it’s pretty disingenuous to hang your hat on averaging top 3 placement?
A Ferrari raced a Camry and the Ferrari won. Which car has the better driver? Tough to know.
But when two essentially equal Ferraris race and one of them wins 32-3 at the other Ferrari’s home track, we kinda know. Especially when the winning Ferrari was a Camry until they got the driver.
Boomers.I bet half of those that voted to keep our coaches are PSU fans
If Arnold, Ayala, Ferrari, Kueter were in the Penn State room, would they be wrestling like we saw yesterday? If the answer is no, some kind of change is warranted and I don’t see how anyone can argue otherwise
First loss to Iowa State in 21 years. Worst dual loss in 60 years. It has definitely been a history making year for Brands.
This. There is a feeling in the air that this might be it. Very similar to last season with Fran. It’s almost impossible to come back from that. The only thing different about wrestling is they still sell out.
Did you see the empty seats last night? Because other people did.
If Beth decides to make a change, she will go for the home run, imo.
The new wrestling facility was supposed to improve everything, including results on the mat.
So much for that; which means a change is needed.
So he can recommend Nelson Brands?
You are correct.
Remember there is a difference between competing and coaching.
Could you imagine 26 mil to spend on coaches, nil and hwc talent and just train in old room! I can
The question is if Dake is the answer why was Cornell left in the hands of Grey.
Cornell still getting top recruits might not win it all but they are always in the conversation of top 5 as an IVY League.
This is an interesting thought. It never crossed my mind, but you are absolutely right.
If you are looking for a new culture and premium wrestling skills along with getting the best recruits then its Nolf. There is no other wrestler that is emulized more in the usa today then Nolf. Go to any junior tournament and watch who kids are trying to be its Nolf.
He’d be my pick at this point
I like Askren but heath issues so probably not.
If you look at the Gable days teams turned there programs around by hiring from Gable teams.
So if you want to turn it around or catch PSU then you should hire from PSU. So I guess thay answers all our question.
NOLF it should be
99% of that 18% are PSU fans. We want the twins to coach Iowa forever.
If the goal is to beat PSU, why should we have Nolf as our HC when they didn’t see the need for him as 3rd assistant. Gotta think bigger.
Well, maybe Jason wasn’t interested. If Iowa is looking to get better at creating, scrambling, and scoring, I choose Nolf over Nick Lee.
Who would you be thinking? Could try Cunningham but I don’t see him leaving. Seems like there’s some questions on Dake as a coach, but I don’t know whether there’s merit to that or not
I'm seeing several PSU names mentioned as a possible replacement for Tommy. After all of the nonsense spewed about the psu program here, why would y'all wanna bring that culture to your pristine program?
JB
- He’s arguably the best USA freestyler of all time.
- Very personable, good with media
- Resonates with todays wrestlers
- Hates PSU and has a hunger to win
- Runs his own club similar albeit not at the same size as DT
He might be the last guy out there( whose available) who has the tools and pedigree to get us back in title conversations
The only guy I’d want is Cunningham, and even then I’d rather have JB