Deon Broomfield Safeties is in our directory.He did both at Iowa State. Wondering with the increased salary pool for the coaching staff , who will be the Campbell newbies other than Terry ?
Deon Broomfield Safeties is in our directory.He did both at Iowa State. Wondering with the increased salary pool for the coaching staff , who will be the Campbell newbies other than Terry ?
I was wondering outside of the 2025 staffs of PSU and the cyclones . Thought the money might possibly bring in a new perspective.Deon Broomfield Safeties is in our directory.
Hoping they keep Barnes and Connor.I was wondering outside of the 2025 staffs of PSU and the cyclones . Thought the money might possibly bring in a new perspective.
You're certainly right that drawing up plays is pretty much standard across the levels. You aim to exploit the other team's weaknesses while trying to hide your own.Drawing up X's and O's is pretty much the same at any level the difference is the talent and speed at which the game is played. Like Franny Ganter used to say it's not so much about the X's and O's but more about the Jimmies and the Joes. However the one big difference between the two leagues is the Big Tens ability to viciously run the football. As always the game is won and lost in the Land of the Giants.
Part of it.... but certainly not all (PSU will be on the hook for at least portions - several million - of Knowles and Cutelnicki - at least - in addition to the $9 million door prize to (VT)HCJF).FYI... Knowles just announced officially as Tennessee new DC. So that salary is gone.
Do we know anything (not rumors) about who the OC will be?
This is actually great news. After witnessing first hand that abomination called the UCLA game that guy should not have been allowed to fly back with the team on the plane. That goes for BGJ as well. Pathetic.FYI... Knowles just announced officially as Tennessee new DC. So that salary is gone.
Three stooges should all be together.Perhaps they werent as big of Yes Men as Franklin likes.
Or they both realize Franklin does nothing to help their careers.
They do deserve the chance to prove themselves. Hiring his staff from ISU has to help him concentrate on other items that need to be done. How many hours were saved by not doing interviews. They can now concentrate on portal players and current players they want to fit their systems. I look at it as comfort and familiarity vs nepotism.So, Knowles, Kotelnicki, and O'Brien are all gone, and I can't say I'm broken up about any of them leaving.
I was excited for the Matt Campbell hire, but there are some potential issues brewing. As a head coach, the first duty needs to be to the program, not your buddies. I certainly hope Matt can keep that in mind.
My concern is that Campbell may be engaging in too much nepotism. I'm not saying that the people he is bringing in aren't qualified. I'm saying that a head coach needs to be able to go to his subordinates and say, "You're not cutting it at this level. I need to look elsewhere." And if you're hiring your bros... you aren't likely to do that.
We've all seen, first-hand, the problems with nepotism at this level of competition. I don't even have to specifically mention them.
We'll see what happens, of course, and these guys absolutely deserve a chance, the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise, and our support...
...but as a general rule, this approach doesn't end well.
Part of it.... but certainly not all (PSU will be on the hook for at least portions - several million - of Knowles and Cutelnicki - at least - in addition to the $9 million door prize to (VT)HCJF).
For coaches to NOT coach your team.
The most recent year that full numbers are available (2024) the most highly paid staff was OSU at $11.5 Million College Football Assistant Coach Salaries - USA TODAY
I am sure those numbers will continue to inflate for 2025 and 2026.
In addition to the $17 million PK was talking about for this year's staff, PSU will be paying somewhere around $13 million for coaches to NOT coach the team in 2026.
So, not only the most highly paid staff in 2026, in all likelihood - but ALSO paying the equivalent of "top 5" staff money to another group of coaches to NOT coach here.
That is, obviously, not optimalEspecially for a program that is already on the edge of the cliff and losing money. Krafty, eh?
Like Veruca Salt in a candy store.
"As a head coach, the first duty needs to be to the program, not your buddies."So, Knowles, Kotelnicki, and O'Brien are all gone, and I can't say I'm broken up about any of them leaving.
I was excited for the Matt Campbell hire, but there are some potential issues brewing. As a head coach, the first duty needs to be to the program, not your buddies. I certainly hope Matt can keep that in mind.
My concern is that Campbell may be engaging in too much nepotism. I'm not saying that the people he is bringing in aren't qualified. I'm saying that a head coach needs to be able to go to his subordinates and say, "You're not cutting it at this level. I need to look elsewhere." And if you're hiring your bros... you aren't likely to do that.
We've all seen, first-hand, the problems with nepotism at this level of competition. I don't even have to specifically mention them.
We'll see what happens, of course, and these guys absolutely deserve a chance, the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise, and our support...
...but as a general rule, this approach doesn't end well.
or maybe nobody here knows muchPerhaps they werent as big of Yes Men as Franklin likes.
Or they both realize Franklin does nothing to help their careers.
That was my concern as well and I was looking for a splash oc hire, but we have to trust him to do what he feels is best. If it’s not working out in years two and three, then I would agree with you. Don’t forget that he retained Terry, so it’s not completely his guys. And we just hired an assistant GM from another school as well. The DC hire will be very interesting.So, Knowles, Kotelnicki, and O'Brien are all gone, and I can't say I'm broken up about any of them leaving.
I was excited for the Matt Campbell hire, but there are some potential issues brewing. As a head coach, the first duty needs to be to the program, not your buddies. I certainly hope Matt can keep that in mind.
My concern is that Campbell may be engaging in too much nepotism. I'm not saying that the people he is bringing in aren't qualified. I'm saying that a head coach needs to be able to go to his subordinates and say, "You're not cutting it at this level. I need to look elsewhere." And if you're hiring your bros... you aren't likely to do that.
We've all seen, first-hand, the problems with nepotism at this level of competition. I don't even have to specifically mention them.
We'll see what happens, of course, and these guys absolutely deserve a chance, the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise, and our support...
...but as a general rule, this approach doesn't end well.
What does that have to do with Jim and Andy not going with Franklin?or maybe nobody here knows much
I trust Campbell. He needs a guy he trusts as everything is new for him. If he brought in some splash big ego hire and they didn't mesh well that would be a huge disaster.That was my concern as well and I was looking for a splash oc hire, but we have to trust him to do what he feels is best. If it’s not working out in years two and three, then I would agree with you. Don’t forget that he retained Terry, so it’s not completely his guys. And we just hired an assistant GM from another school as well. The DC hire will be very interesting.
He didn’t get the job at PSU all by himself…PSU went after him because of what he accomplished at ISU and he did that with his coaching staff….why wouldn’t he bring them?So, Knowles, Kotelnicki, and O'Brien are all gone, and I can't say I'm broken up about any of them leaving.
I was excited for the Matt Campbell hire, but there are some potential issues brewing. As a head coach, the first duty needs to be to the program, not your buddies. I certainly hope Matt can keep that in mind.
My concern is that Campbell may be engaging in too much nepotism. I'm not saying that the people he is bringing in aren't qualified. I'm saying that a head coach needs to be able to go to his subordinates and say, "You're not cutting it at this level. I need to look elsewhere." And if you're hiring your bros... you aren't likely to do that.
We've all seen, first-hand, the problems with nepotism at this level of competition. I don't even have to specifically mention them.
We'll see what happens, of course, and these guys absolutely deserve a chance, the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise, and our support...
...but as a general rule, this approach doesn't end well.
nothing- it has to do with uninformed guesses as to the reasonsWhat does that have to do with Jim and Andy not going with Franklin?
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Franklin had guys he trusted too.I trust Campbell. He needs a guy he trusts as everything is new for him. If he brought in some splash big ego hire and they didn't mesh well that would be a huge disaster.
He did but he failed miserably at figuring out the OC role so the splash hires did not work for him. My point is that Campbell has so much to do and he is learning Penn State, getting to know his players, on and on. Trying to bring in a hired gun who he doesn't know that well could prove to be more than he or the program can handle. I am not saying it would be a terrible option but it comes with a lot of risk.Franklin had guys he trusted too.
There comes a point where you need people who perform at a high level. Can they beat osu?
Where is the list of OCs who can beat tOSU?He did but he failed miserably at figuring out the OC role so the splash hires did not work for him. My point is that Campbell has so much to do and he is learning Penn State, getting to know his players, on and on. Trying to bring in a hired gun who he doesn't know that well could prove to be more than he or the program can handle. I am not saying it would be a terrible option but it comes with a lot of risk.
As for OSU, we avoid them for a couple years and I don't know if this OC can beat them. No one does at this stage. Big picture is I hope Campbell along with his staff (not just the OC) can actually beat OSU more than once every 10 years. I'll take 3 or 4 out of 10.
I think we all have seen what "splash" hires have resulted in. Knowles, highest paid DC ever, bust; Kotelnicki, an industry proclaimed guru was below average. Stan Drayton, "stud recruiter", not one commit by my count.That was my concern as well and I was looking for a splash oc hire, but we have to trust him to do what he feels is best. If it’s not working out in years two and three, then I would agree with you. Don’t forget that he retained Terry, so it’s not completely his guys. And we just hired an assistant GM from another school as well. The DC hire will be very interesting.
Yeah, and I was careful to say they deserve a chance, while pointing out the potential issues that come with nepotism."As a head coach, the first duty needs to be to the program, not your buddies."
You don't have the success Campbell has had by coddling your buddies. You surround yourself with people who make you better and your task easier.
He has had good people around him at ISU. That's a credit to Campbell for knowing good people when he meets them.
Believe it or not Campbell has a management system that has served him well proving to himself as well as others he's been doing it the right way. He believes and understands his system works across all plains.
That self-assurance of his reminds of Joe Paterno. When a reporter asked Joe when he was being courted by the NYG if he believed he could be a success in the pros he said yes that his system would work at any level even in the pros.
I'm not the least concerned about Campbell being a success at PS I'm only concerned about what might be unrealistic expectations especially early on.
Good question. Over the last ten years, tOSU is 115-16 - with no more than two losses in any of those seasons. Not bad.Where is the list of OCs who can beat tOSU?
Part of it.... but certainly not all (PSU will be on the hook for at least portions - several million - of Knowles and Cutelnicki - at least - in addition to the $9 million door prize to (VT)HCJF).
For coaches to NOT coach your team.
The most recent year that full numbers are available (2024) the most highly paid staff was OSU at $11.5 Million College Football Assistant Coach Salaries - USA TODAY
I am sure those numbers will continue to inflate for 2025 and 2026.
In addition to the $17 million PK was talking about for this year's staff, PSU will be paying somewhere around $13 million for coaches to NOT coach the team in 2026.
So, not only the most highly paid staff in 2026, in all likelihood - but ALSO paying the equivalent of "top 5" staff money to another group of coaches to NOT coach here.
That is, obviously, not optimalEspecially for a program that is already on the edge of the cliff and losing money. Krafty, eh?
Like Veruca Salt in a candy store.
And yet, PSU Athletics is in the red?The $13 million Penn State will be paying is chump change for a big time program that will bring in nearly $100 million annually under the new B1G tv contracts.
By comparison our peer institutions paid:
- Florida $21.2 million for Billy Napier
- LSU $54 million for Brian Kelly
- Texas A&M $77 million for Jimbo Fisher
Bottom line, there is some ridiculous money being made by the giant football programs. Do not fret over Penn State.
Points well taken.Yeah, and I was careful to say they deserve a chance, while pointing out the potential issues that come with nepotism.
Interesting that you brought up Paterno. Did you not pick up on the hint I dropped?
Paterno hired his own son, who had no business being a coach at Penn State.
As for unrealistic expectations early on, that is certainly a possible sticky wicket. No doubt everyone has a different idea of what we should reasonably expect to see over the next few seasons.
Compounding the uncertainty is that we have a VERY easy schedule in 2026, IMO. We don't play Ohio State, Oregon, or Indiana. Our toughest games are @Michigan, where the program is presently in total disarray, and home vs USC.