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Some of these late coaching hires are real head scratchers. It's like Campbell is hiring luke warm bodies just to fill out his organization chart.
This is starting to look like Franklin 2.0
This is starting to look like Franklin 2.0
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What a stupid *** comment players change year to year and yet douchebags like yourself Can only find negatives?? If you are such a hot shot know it all why are you not interviewing for the job?
thought as much
I heard Bilas say it on the air . whether he was the first or not but I heard him say it
Rumor is that Conner is the assistant LB coach…
I don’t know why everyone is complaining, that’s now two ex d coordinators coming on as position coaches. With Lynn running the show. How is any of this a bad thing?
I don’t know why everyone is complaining, that’s now two ex d coordinators coming on as position coaches. With Lynn running the show. How is any of this a bad thing?
Because some are a bunch of delusional whiners with a strange sense of reality. Some think PSU is the most appealing school for every blue chip HS recruit, portal player, and coach.
1) Too many competing egos. It's never a good thing when a CEO hires his friend to be your boss, when you know the guy is wholly unqualified for his position. This won't end well.
2) You tell me. Who is more qualified to coach LB's? This guy with his demonstrated record of being a loser coach and accomplishing nothing in the process.... (I encourage all to read the linked bio)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Veidt. OR
someone who tuttled under Ron Vanderlinden, starred at PSU and went on to play in the NFL.
My patience with Matt "Billy Madison" Campbell is getting short. Franklin 2.0
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Can you guys TAP. THE. BRAKES.? I’m not used to so much good news in a short period of time, especially when it comes to Penn State. It’s giving me a headache.
I hate all the good news - it's irritating as a wool sweater with no undershirt.
With the notable exception of Jay, position coaches earn coordinator jobs because they were outstanding at coaching their position. I'm pretty happy with both the DL and LB coaches that CMC just hired.
Hasn’t even coached a game yet and your patience is getting short…must be a new record even for this board.
“Why are they taking so long to hire assistants? Just need to get coaches in place before the portal opens!”
[Campbell makes hires]
“Why are they hiring these guys it’s like they’re just getting warm bodies!”
So Dan Connor has to do all of the heavy lifting work while his new boss (higher paid; friend of the CEO) provides "oversight" and contributes to "run game coordination". WTF?
Decisions such as this by the CEO are the hallmarks of losing organizations. Franklin 2.0. (Even Franklin wasn't this stupid).
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You are as dumb as Lando. Congrats!So Dan Connor has to do all of the heavy lifting work while his new boss (higher paid; friend of the CEO) provides "oversight" and contributes to "run game coordination". WTF?
Decisions such as this by the CEO are the hallmarks of losing organizations. Franklin 2.0. (Even Franklin wasn't this stupid).
A lot of terrible, uninformed takes I seeSo Dan Connor has to do all of the heavy lifting work while his new boss (higher paid; friend of the CEO) provides "oversight" and contributes to "run game coordination". WTF?
Decisions such as this by the CEO are the hallmarks of losing organizations. Franklin 2.0. (Even Franklin wasn't this stupid).
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I’m thinking it’s time for you to move on from following Penn State football. Not sure you’ll ever be happy.
Then I read your follow up post. You’re just trying to stir the pot acting a doo wah, correct? You b@@@@ like a junior high girl who wasn’t invited to the dance.
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I think CMC has made all great hires thus far, and thank God he has a real GM function in the operation. He needs to completely focus on getting everyone on the coaching staff to row in the same direction. That will take a huge effort.
This guy didn't do well as Cincinnati's defensive coordinator but his resume coaching linebackers is pretty good. He was named Linebackers Coach of the year by Footballscoop in 2017 and was a Broyles Award Nominee in 2020. Hope for the best I guess.
You don’t need to wait to see how he does? That’s some next level thinking.
Wow. A month after being hired, and still trying to fill out the coaching staff (waiting on just a RB coach now, IIRC)
And - what do we have?
After PK promised the most expensive coaching staff in history (even more costly than last year's - with Knowles and Kotelnicki):
Offensive Staff (thus far, all brought over from ISU - which had less than stellar offenses in recent years):
Offensive Coordinator:
The OC at ISU for the last two years - who produced, to be kind, very underwhelming offenses since taking over there. Iowa State is the only program he has coached at.
Wideouts:
The WR coach at ISU for the last three years. Despite underwhelming offenses, many seemed to feel he did a nice job with their WRs. Prior to that, only experience was at FCS or lower division schools.
Offensive Line:
The OL coach from ISU for the last three years. That was his first and only D1 coaching job
Quarterbacks:
The QB coach from ISU. Been there five years - the first three as a Quality Control guy, coaching just the last two years. Prior to that, three years working with wideouts at UTEP. Thats it.
Running Backs:
TBD
Defensive Staff:
Defensive Coordinator:
Danton Lynn - who most people are familiar with, and who has a rather solid track record as DC at USC and UCLA over the last three years - following three years as an NFL defensive backs coach.
Defensive Backs (2):
PSU Holdover Terry Smith, and a guy from ISU. Everyone is familiar w T Smith, of course. The ISU guy's experience is five years at ISU, previously at D2 schools, and one year as a staff guy in the NFL.
Defensive Line:
Recently fired guy from UCLA, after two horrific years of defensive performance. Previously spent 11 years coaching at west coast schools - UCLA, Washington (under head coach Peterson), Utah State
Linebackers:
Recently fired guy from Cincinnati - who's defenses struggled mightily in his two years there. Prior experience was 10 years as LB coach on Campbell's staffs at Toledo and ISU..
Special Teams Coordinator:
PSU holdover Justin Lustig - who appears by all accounts to have been doing a fine job.
Six ISU guys (if you count the LB coach who was with Campbell for all but those two horrible years at Cincinnati)
Two PSU holdovers - Smith and Lustig
One West Coast guy recently fired from UCLA
and Danton Lynn
With one (RB) to be filled
- Aside from Danton Lynn, I doubt there is a guy on that staff that anyone would have been "hoping for"
- Aside from T Smith, not a single guy on the staff with any significant or focused experience recruiting in PSU's region - or anywhere in the entire Northeast, Atlantic seaboard region, DMV, etc (maybe one could add Lustig, a bit).
- The entire offensive staff - pending the hiring of a RB coach - has effectively zero major college experience EVER working for anyone other than Campbell at ISU. Just brought the ISU staff over.
Over the last five years, the ISU offense this group ran has NEVER cracked even the top 40 in the nation - and on average placed 68th in the nation. Ouch!
- The defensive staff? I think most think highly of Lynn's potential - and everyone seems to like Smith right now..... but it is them and two guys who got fired from lesser programs after turning out horrific defenses.
Really quite stunning. What was Campbell thinking?
Are they really going to pay these guys $20 Million (or whatever the figure was that PK stated). Why?
Truly stunning - when you break it down.
Anything can happen, of course, but it would seemingly be "hope and pray" as the only basis for assuming this group is well-suited for the task at hand (assuming that the expectations are to develop a "Big Ten Championship Competing" level program).
Probably the most reasonable possible "mitigating circumstance" is that Campbell was caught completely unexpected wrt the job offer from PSU (or anyone) and had not been planning on leaving ISU, or prepared at all wrt "whom he might bring together to form a new staff".
That would be congruent with the large influx of his ISU guys, and the extraordinarily lenghty time frame to complete his staff (when expediency would have been very valuable)..
If so, maybe will be significant shake-ups/upgrades before year 2.
And - what do we have?
After PK promised the most expensive coaching staff in history (even more costly than last year's - with Knowles and Kotelnicki):
Offensive Staff (thus far, all brought over from ISU - which had less than stellar offenses in recent years):
Offensive Coordinator:
The OC at ISU for the last two years - who produced, to be kind, very underwhelming offenses since taking over there. Iowa State is the only program he has coached at.
Wideouts:
The WR coach at ISU for the last three years. Despite underwhelming offenses, many seemed to feel he did a nice job with their WRs. Prior to that, only experience was at FCS or lower division schools.
Offensive Line:
The OL coach from ISU for the last three years. That was his first and only D1 coaching job
Quarterbacks:
The QB coach from ISU. Been there five years - the first three as a Quality Control guy, coaching just the last two years. Prior to that, three years working with wideouts at UTEP. Thats it.
Running Backs:
TBD
Defensive Staff:
Defensive Coordinator:
Danton Lynn - who most people are familiar with, and who has a rather solid track record as DC at USC and UCLA over the last three years - following three years as an NFL defensive backs coach.
Defensive Backs (2):
PSU Holdover Terry Smith, and a guy from ISU. Everyone is familiar w T Smith, of course. The ISU guy's experience is five years at ISU, previously at D2 schools, and one year as a staff guy in the NFL.
Defensive Line:
Recently fired guy from UCLA, after two horrific years of defensive performance. Previously spent 11 years coaching at west coast schools - UCLA, Washington (under head coach Peterson), Utah State
Linebackers:
Recently fired guy from Cincinnati - who's defenses struggled mightily in his two years there. Prior experience was 10 years as LB coach on Campbell's staffs at Toledo and ISU..
Special Teams Coordinator:
PSU holdover Justin Lustig - who appears by all accounts to have been doing a fine job.
Six ISU guys (if you count the LB coach who was with Campbell for all but those two horrible years at Cincinnati)
Two PSU holdovers - Smith and Lustig
One West Coast guy recently fired from UCLA
and Danton Lynn
With one (RB) to be filled
- Aside from Danton Lynn, I doubt there is a guy on that staff that anyone would have been "hoping for"
- Aside from T Smith, not a single guy on the staff with any significant or focused experience recruiting in PSU's region - or anywhere in the entire Northeast, Atlantic seaboard region, DMV, etc (maybe one could add Lustig, a bit).
- The entire offensive staff - pending the hiring of a RB coach - has effectively zero major college experience EVER working for anyone other than Campbell at ISU. Just brought the ISU staff over.
Over the last five years, the ISU offense this group ran has NEVER cracked even the top 40 in the nation - and on average placed 68th in the nation. Ouch!
- The defensive staff? I think most think highly of Lynn's potential - and everyone seems to like Smith right now..... but it is them and two guys who got fired from lesser programs after turning out horrific defenses.
Really quite stunning. What was Campbell thinking?
Are they really going to pay these guys $20 Million (or whatever the figure was that PK stated). Why?
Truly stunning - when you break it down.
Anything can happen, of course, but it would seemingly be "hope and pray" as the only basis for assuming this group is well-suited for the task at hand (assuming that the expectations are to develop a "Big Ten Championship Competing" level program).
Probably the most reasonable possible "mitigating circumstance" is that Campbell was caught completely unexpected wrt the job offer from PSU (or anyone) and had not been planning on leaving ISU, or prepared at all wrt "whom he might bring together to form a new staff".
That would be congruent with the large influx of his ISU guys, and the extraordinarily lenghty time frame to complete his staff (when expediency would have been very valuable)..
If so, maybe will be significant shake-ups/upgrades before year 2.
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This sounds too famiiliar...a lot like the Franklin transition...bring along all the people who got you there, and haven't been or proven themselves anywhere else.
I think we may be in a 2-4 year transition period of each coach proving if they belong, some potential lag in reconizing they cannot, and finding replacements.
I like Campbell. I just hope his supposed standards for his players apply to his staff as well.
Love how all the coaches just fit in a bubble for some people. ISU had to work their *** off just not to suck. That’s not a dig in any way either. These coaches overachieved almost every season with far less talent than most of CFB. They also DEVELOPED 2-3* players into winners while JF and primarily the offensive coaches couldn’t develop effin sea horses. Don’t act like we as fans didn’t ***** for years about why high 4* offensive players seemed to always underachieve. Also, I don’t think I even have to get into what the 5* experience has produced, 4-5* development (again, on offense primarily) has sucked for like ever with exception to TEs and RBs.
Morning sunrise viewed through a portal window of my house was quite beautiful today. I am taking it as a good omen for PSU football and the CMC Era . Of course, I reserve the right to be negative at any point in the future .
Ist't this how it works in general? When new leaders are hired in companies (C-suite), they try and bring over many of the people that helped them succeed and they can trust.
No. Not that there needs to be mitigation, but Campbell want to install a culture and fast track an offensive identity for immediate success.
So 2 people hired for the same job? No wonder Kraft can’t seem to control expenditures in the AD.So Dan Connor has to do all of the heavy lifting work while his new boss (higher paid; friend of the CEO) provides "oversight" and contributes to "run game coordination". WTF?
Decisions such as this by the CEO are the hallmarks of losing organizations. Franklin 2.0. (Even Franklin wasn't this stupid).
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