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If I remember right, he was the guy in the room disagreeing with Trump on attacking Iran. His analysis is not only correct, but calculated.
JD Vance is a liar and a charlatan.
If the GOP wants to continue the humiliation, they should listen to him. He is the perfect vehicle to ensure massive Dem domination come 2029.
You are a twit, and the fact that you sit here today and suggest that people should listen to you or JD Vance about the right way to proceed tells me how much hubris you really have.
No one should listen to you, they should laugh in your face.
You wouldn't do **** about it, you Passive Bestgressive *****.
Republicans did not lose because of the Iran War. It was the final straw in a litany of massive failures. Let's list them.
1. Handing large swaths of the government to Elon Musk for no particular benefit (there was never meaningful savings, because those take hard decisions).
2. Tariffs - Americans hate them, they are the biggest reason for the loss.
3. Massive, extraordinary levels of corruption. Association with the most corrupt people on Earth.
4. The concept tech overlords are people should listen to. (I mean, I admire them for their robots, most are political idiots).
5. The deep cruelty of the modern GOP.
6. Wildly overaggressive immigration enforcement, including multiple public shootings.
7. No meaningful policy goals beyond a tax cut (I like tax cuts personally, but that was the agenda).
8. Complete dismissal of criticism and acting like complaints about affordability was some pesky matter
9. Heritage Americanism
10. Sucking up to Putin/betrayal of Ukraine.
11. The absolute grossness of Trump and his cronies.
12. Complete incompetents across the Cabinet.
13. The Iran War and gas prices.
If Rs delude themselves into Vance, they will double down on yesterday's humiliation.
1. Handing large swaths of the government to Elon Musk for no particular benefit (there was never meaningful savings, because those take hard decisions).
2. Tariffs - Americans hate them, they are the biggest reason for the loss.
3. Massive, extraordinary levels of corruption. Association with the most corrupt people on Earth.
4. The concept tech overlords are people should listen to. (I mean, I admire them for their robots, most are political idiots).
5. The deep cruelty of the modern GOP.
6. Wildly overaggressive immigration enforcement, including multiple public shootings.
7. No meaningful policy goals beyond a tax cut (I like tax cuts personally, but that was the agenda).
8. Complete dismissal of criticism and acting like complaints about affordability was some pesky matter
9. Heritage Americanism
10. Sucking up to Putin/betrayal of Ukraine.
11. The absolute grossness of Trump and his cronies.
12. Complete incompetents across the Cabinet.
13. The Iran War and gas prices.
If Rs delude themselves into Vance, they will double down on yesterday's humiliation.
I mostly agree with all these as well (exclamation point on 2,3,8,11,12,13). I agree with the 4 Vance listed wholeheartedly, those are all issues, but he’s a chameleon and they can’t hitch to his wagon. They need to move off anybody associated with this administration, but even then, it won’t matter for ‘28 what they do. That’s a done deal, especially after 2 years of lame duck Trump. Buckle up.
Here's my issue with the Vance take. America's support of Israel has nothing to do with this election. I don't care if we cut off aid to Israel, but they are still an obvious ally (and most Americans would agree with this). Israel isn't in the Top 25 issues for most Americans.
What Vance is doing is trying to create a permission structure for anti-Semites on the right. Considering that racists in the Trump coalition are definitely part of the problem, it's a horrid idea.
Oh **** off and stop crying. Your horrendous President lost and now you want to shut down discussion.
Of course, MAGA forever.
Never underestimate the ignorance of some of the American voters.
The power of main stream media to confuse vast amounts of citizens has been proven.
But, the Voters have voted.
The power of main stream media to confuse vast amounts of citizens has been proven.
But, the Voters have voted.
I think many Americans feel Israel dragged us into the Iran war, if you take what Rubio said right after it started with any weight. Something to the effect of if we didn’t do it, Israel would and we would have no control. And now we can’t get out. I think you can be against our current relationship with Israel and not be an antisemite.
All thst said you could be right, Vance might be playing at that. I thought he was simply distancing himself from Trump and trying to save his political career.
I was definitely joking. You gotta face the music when you are so badly wrong, you can’t reach for that reset button in life. But, you can learn from it.
“Some of the voters” lmao.
Your lord and savior is the most hated POTUS ever.
The only people confused are MAGAtards like you.
You gotta get with the times. Many people are ignorant yes. But the majority of people who even listen to MSM are boomers, and those are the only ones Trump has left. This wasn’t MSM tricking everybody, that’s an outdated excuse.
He's been defending and excusing anti-Semites for months, and much of it has no relation to Israel.
Everyone on the political right should fly their freak flag is literally Vance's motto, because he thinks he needs the fringes to win either the nomination or general (maybe both). Not sure the theory, but it tells you how weak a candidate he is.
Big Will has spent 80 years avoiding any accountability for his own actions. God forbid he blame his cult leader for losing elections.
The only person on the Trumpian right who deserves any credit today is @Uncoach, who seems generally curious to explain what happened.
This is not accurate.
Google, Apple and MSN pump negative Trump coverage online all day.
The traditional media coverage is negative. It is every where.
Snapshot:
For major broadcast network evening news (ABC, CBS, NBC), studies typically find 85–92% negative coverage of Trump in measured periods over the past year. There is no single, comprehensive percentage for “the press” as a whole (print, cable, digital, local, etc.), but the most cited quantitative analyses of legacy network news show consistently high negativity.Newsbusters
Key figures from Media Research Center (MRC) analyses
MRC is a conservative media watchdog that has long tracked “spin” (evaluative positive/negative statements by journalists or non-partisan sources, excluding purely neutral reporting and partisan guests). Their main findings include:- First ~100 days of Trump’s second term (Jan. 20–April 9, 2025): 92% negative coverage on the ABC, CBS, and NBC evening newscasts (1,698 negative vs. 143 positive evaluative statements out of 1,841 total across 899 stories). By comparison, the same networks gave Biden ~59% positive coverage in a comparable early period of his term.Newsbusters
- 2024 campaign period (July–October): 85% negative for Trump vs. 78% positive for Kamala Harris.Fox News
- Around the 2026 midterms: ABC/CBS/NBC evening news gave Trump and Republicans roughly a 3-to-1 ratio of negative coverage compared with Democrats (nearly 57 minutes negative for Trump/GOP vs. ~19 minutes for Democrats in one late-September to late-October window). PBS News Hour showed ~94% negative spin on the GOP in September 2026.Fox News
In short, for the major broadcast networks that still reach large audiences, the documented share of negative coverage of Trump over the past year has typically been in the mid-to-high 80s or low 90s in the periods studied.
The median age for the three broadcast networks is 55, 57 and 58. About 40% of their audience is 18-49. These are not boomers.
Tic Toc has a very young audience.
Campaign Period (2024)
Analyses of top-performing TikTok posts (from social analytics firm Zelf, covered by Newsweek, Mediaite, and Fast Company) showed:- Roughly 72% of the top Trump-related posts were negative, versus only about 24% positive.
- Anti-Trump videos received substantially more views and engagement than anti-Harris videos in the same periods.
Recent Data (2026)
A Wall Street Journal analysis of more than 20,000 TikTok videos about Trump and the economy (from late June onward) found critical videos heavily outnumbered supportive ones. On some specific claims (e.g., that prices were falling or that tariffs bring in money paid by other countries), critical videos outnumbered favorable ones by ratios of roughly 9-to-1 to 16-to-1.FocusamericaYou literally are talking out of your backside like your boy Stone. Don't be stoned. Trump is raked pretty much everywhere daily. Anything positive is mostly ignored.
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Are you so deluded that you think the press tricked Americans into hating … Donald Trump?
I’m like 90% that Passive Bestgressive has muted me.
If you don’t use AI correctly you are going to get garbage results.
Anyways, the real question is are you actually convinced MSM got us here? I admittedly didn’t anticipate that as the culprit.
I don't believe one thing is to blame, but the Iranian situation probably gets a lot of chips. His popularity takes a daily beating even when there is something positive to talk about. You rarely hear anything about Venezuela which was a great move. Iran has not worked out equally well and it is all that is talked about on foreign policy.
Domestically, Trump has some nice wins in the private sector technology and manufacturing. The trade deficit appears to be dropping, stock market is good, rents are down. Real median household income rose 2.6% to a record $87,460 in 2025.
Our youngest of four working kids makes 85k, 1.5 years post getting his bachelors. He is easily our lowest paid kid. Ya, everyone complains about beef and gas prices as they have ticked up, but the restaurants in our town are full.
But all we hear about is gas and "affordability" from the lapdog media. Iran won big with our idiot voters. Kudos to them.
I voted against Abbott in the primary as he has become stale imo. I have a good friend that graduated law school with him and she loves him, but he skipped solving some problems that are important to me and coasted. The problem is going to be the knucklehead coming in and I posted about that earlier.
I was scrolling around today and came across this letter. If I am the outgoing GOP in Texas and DC, I try to button a bunch of things up before leaving.
I was scrolling around today and came across this letter. If I am the outgoing GOP in Texas and DC, I try to button a bunch of things up before leaving.
I bet if we go back to 2001-2008 Bush got fairly close to that same treatment from the MSM.
No accountability for Trump or his enablers.
I voted against Abbott in the primary as he has become stale imo. I have a good friend that graduated law school with him and she loves him, but he skipped solving some problems that are important to me and coasted. The problem is going to be the knucklehead coming in and I posted about that earlier.
I was scrolling around today and came across this letter. If I am the outgoing GOP in Texas and DC, I try to button a bunch of things up before leaving.
I voted for the insane extremist running against Abbott, what an advertisement for why no one with any decent sense should ever listen to you.
Your days of self glorification are long over.
Disagree. Dominion flipped it for the R because the seat is not needed.
I would note for the record that, of our 4 actively posting Trumpist idiots:
1 has attempted to simply stop the debate so he doesn't have to hear any negativity (this is somehow better than half of the 4);
2 have expressed no regrets and clearly want to blame others and RINOs and the like; and
1 has expressed genuine interest in understanding how this happened.
I guess 1 for 4 is as good as it gets for these folks. Totally deluded.
1 has attempted to simply stop the debate so he doesn't have to hear any negativity (this is somehow better than half of the 4);
2 have expressed no regrets and clearly want to blame others and RINOs and the like; and
1 has expressed genuine interest in understanding how this happened.
I guess 1 for 4 is as good as it gets for these folks. Totally deluded.
Still completely insane, folks!
We know how we got here. Only way to get out is to leave these folks behind!
There you go blaming the voters again. It doesn’t seem like you are self reflecting properly.
About being a passive aggressive *****, for one.
And having completely insane politics that govern your life, for two.
Your cult leader talks about men’s asses daily, and I’m the weird one. Sure.
Anyways, I thought you were recalibrating your crazy political worldview, but I guess not. You should. Instead, you blame RINOs and MSM, just like the good ole days.
He once openly supported Paul Nehlen, who turned out to be a literal fascist. To give PB a small pass, Nehlen's fascist tendencies didn't emerge until his second attempt to defeat Paul Ryan.
I love how this gutless coward - this passive aggressive ***** - has clearly muted me.
Sums him up pretty well.
He couldn’t stand high gas prices, so apparently he’s quite happy the party that has tried to eliminate gas appliances, shut down the Keystone XL pipeline, shut down oil refineries and made it extremely difficult to build new ones is going to be in power to lower gas prices.
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