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[tjfleck6]

His challenge is truly moronic. As a “pharmacist” he should have had enough education to know there is a lung capacity and stamina issue as people age. It’s like Phelps challenging Spitz to a race in the pool. Oh and Trump gonna cancel Christmas.

I would do fine. But peak “me” doesn’t beat an alleged all state XC runner at their peak. And current me doesn’t beat an alleged all state XC that is many years younger.

Having done that trail that got wiped out in the Grand Canyon multiple times, I’ve still got plenty. Going to the depths of the Grand Canyon is a fun challenge. However, I’m running out of good day trips there. The remainder are either too long, too difficult, or too sketchy. The last one I did in a day is usually done in 3 days. Of course, the 3-day trip requires a much bigger pack

 

[dtrain79]

So, you do not agree with Talarico on a single issue. There were no odds on our bet as it was straight up. In all honesty, you made a bet which you could never win since Hillary had to win Utah. Really one of the dumbest bets ever placed unless of course you have an addiction

I enjoyed taking your money. But, zero pride since it was a bet I could not lose. Odds of winning were not guaranteed, but Trump was not going to lose Utah.

Anyway, Talarico is against everything you CLAIM to support. Nice vote!

We had odds, but God forbid you’d ever be an honest broker about it.

And yes, I was on the wrong side of the bet even with odds. By Election Day, Hillary had about a 1% chance in Utah. I’d have needed 99-1 to be on the neutral side of that action.

I don’t think you have pride in winning that bet. I think you don’t want the dent in pride in losing one this fall.

The GOP can be a conservative and a generally decent party. Why are you so opposed? It was exactly that until the mid-2010s. Not perfect, but decent.

 

[dtrain79]

Another Seth Keshel special!!!

 

[dtrain79]

Live video of Icky!

Note his proof is of Icky wanting to throw down, not being challenged as the liar previously contended. The liar was in fact challenged to prove his superiority by tackling one of the 5 peaks I didn’t get but instead tucked tail. In his/her words, what a pus&&y. Tick tock.

Kari Lake “emasculated” Gallego in an airport and then lost to him in the actual election by like 5% plus IN A STATE THAT TRUMP WON!!!

Great job Kari, you complete idiot!

 

[Semi-elite R2R athlete]

I would do fine. But peak “me” doesn’t beat an alleged all state XC runner at their peak. And current me doesn’t beat an alleged all state XC that is many years younger.

Having done that trail that got wiped out in the Grand Canyon multiple times, I’ve still got plenty. Going to the depths of the Grand Canyon is a fun challenge. However, I’m running out of good day trips there. The remainder are either too long, too difficult, or too sketchy. The last one I did in a day is usually done in 3 days. Of course, the 3-day trip requires a much bigger pack

You can’t even run 5 miles. Thats why you pussed out. They have very accurate age handicaps in distance running. I’d even give you an extra decade to your handicap because I know you’re a punk ***** thats all mouth.

 

[tjfleck6]

We had odds, but God forbid you’d ever be an honest broker about it.

And yes, I was on the wrong side of the bet even with odds. By Election Day, Hillary had about a 1% chance in Utah. I’d have needed 99-1 to be on the neutral side of that action.

I don’t think you have pride in winning that bet. I think you don’t want the dent in pride in losing one this fall.

The GOP can be a conservative and a generally decent party. Why are you so opposed? It was exactly that until the mid-2010s. Not perfect, but decent.

Straight up. God forbid you got it wrong. You said 5-1, 4-1. Who had the odds in their favor. You could only win with a Hillary win in Utah. I certainly didn’t need odds to go with that. Either way, thanks for paying out!

That is likely the last bet I have made aside from a mandatory bet for lunch with a Purdue guy on every FB/BB game. Plenty of losses in that series.

Losing a bet to you doesn’t matter. Buying Edify stock in the 90s still stings. Holding Ericsson around 2000 stings badly.

 

[dtrain79]

Straight up. God forbid you got it wrong. You said 5-1, 4-1. Who had the odds in their favor. You could only win with a Hillary win in Utah. I certainly didn’t need odds to go with that. Either way, thanks for paying out!

That is likely the last bet I have made aside from a mandatory bet for lunch with a Purdue guy on every FB/BB game. Plenty of losses in that series.

Losing a bet to you doesn’t matter. Buying Edify stock in the 90s still stings. Holding Ericsson around 2000 stings badly.

I got odds. It was like 3 or 4 to 1. Meaning I won more than $100 if I won, because it was unlikely. I make bets like that all the time.

Clearly you are not a gambler and separately I always pay when I lose.

 

[stoneaxe27]

OH NO!!! By the way, who the Hell is Seth Keshel?

 

[ILisBest]

 

[Uncoach]

Is Barry’s influence actually working at CNN or have the Dems given them talking points to help stem the tide of the far left nutburgers within their party?

 

[Uncoach]

I can’t believe this idiot is a regular subject in our discussions and posts right now. Dems have done their best job mainstreaming the worst ideas possible.

 

[rillaman]

Did you bother to learn what green areas of Tucson are doing to use the available rainwater for green lawns, trees, flowering plants >

Tucson has 20% of the population of Phoenix and gets 50% more precipitation. I haven’t bothered to learn because they are completely different. What works in Tucson doesn’t work in Phoenix.

 

[dtrain79]

Welp, we've officially hit the "Paxton Panic" moment in this chain.

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN IT COMING? WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THAT GIVING THE NOMINATION TO A CRIMINAL/CON ARTIST/GRIFTER WITH A RADICAL POLITICAL STYLE WOULD BE A DISASTER?

You all got away with Trump. A below average candidate who beat two hideous Dem opponents and lost to a below average one, at a time when Dems (especially in 2020 and 2024) actively worked to make themselves unpalatable.

That party is ******* over. You all are ushering in an era of Dem dominance, unless their primary voters don't want it! Always a possibility in the USA these days!

 

[Uncoach]

Right on cue

 

[Semi-elite R2R athlete]

Big Swill will make up an article that 75% of people don’t know how to spell “dumb” by end of weekend

 

[AzIllini]

Welp, we've officially hit the "Paxton Panic" moment in this chain.

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN IT COMING? WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THAT GIVING THE NOMINATION TO A CRIMINAL/CON ARTIST/GRIFTER WITH A RADICAL POLITICAL STYLE WOULD BE A DISASTER?

You all got away with Trump. A below average candidate who beat two hideous Dem opponents and lost to a below average one, at a time when Dems (especially in 2020 and 2024) actively worked to make themselves unpalatable.

That party is ******* over. You all are ushering in an era of Dem dominance, unless their primary voters don't want it! Always a possibility in the USA these days!

You are talking personalities, particularly Paxton. I'm interested in policy and as ILisBest's post at 8:40am highlights, Talarico is a disaster on every issue. Hopefully enough Texans vote against Talarico so policy wins. Notice I said vote against Talarico, not for Paxton, it is a binary choice.

 

[ILisBest]

That party is ******* over. You all are ushering in an era of Dem dominance

The posters you are talking to do not vote Dem(and you do), but Ok.

 

[ILisBest]

Yes, the Ceuta situation is not similar to the migrant crisis on the southern US border circa late 2022-early 2024, totally agree with this take. Spain will not be taking in basically any of those migrants.

Apparently, this was not handled all that well as reported. Well, at least according to the large group of Spaniards that seem quite mad.

 

[stoneaxe27]

You forgot to include that he eats babies!

 

[dtrain79]

Apparently, this was not handled all that well as reported. Well, at least according to the large group of Spaniards that seem quite mad.

What are you even talking about? The migrants who overran Ceuta largely went back to Morrocco, as they have no right of entry or way to get to Europe.

The left leaning Spanish government has plenty of its own problems, including some major immigration issues (more about amnesty of people already there, nothing to do with Ceuta).

The hardcore Rs on this chain - including yourself - have their heads so far up their asses that they just emotionally post Twitter slop rather than actually trying to learn about issues. Might be an eye opener if you got off Twitter and actually read about reality, it's not that hard.

Or you could tell me more about how much Trump cares about the debt as it blows past $40T. Btw, the debt as a share of GDP went DOWN under Biden, it's yet again exploding under DJT. Awesome.

 

[dtrain79]

Being disconnected from actual reality is how Ken Paxton becomes a good idea, when you have a guy who votes literally 100% with the conservative position who is a "RINO cuck" or whatever dumb terminology you right wing warriors use.

The Republican primary electorate is just disconnected from reality right now. We will see if the Dems are in 2028, I'm guessing they won't be. I know smart people who disagree with me.

 

[dtrain79]

I am going to say this again. I will vote for the best candidate. I am not a partisan, I have an ideology about what is the best governance. You'd much rather be governed by the gay vegan than the dopey criminal (man ... not sure I'm talking about Trump or Kenny P here).

Trump and MAGA and the increasingly populism of the GOP are not much better - and may be worse - for my view of the world than the Dems, even if the portions of Reaganism they've retained are things I'd agree on.

The current Republican Party does not agree with me on the size of the government/debt, international engagement (I think trade wars are insane and talk of invading Greenland is deeply troubling), and the importance of decency in politics. Maybe these are all Trump problems, we will find out sooner rather than later.

By the way, the MAGA posters here have reached different stages of grief about what's coming. Some denial, some pleading, some anger. It's psychologically compelling.

 

[tjfleck6]

I got odds. It was like 3 or 4 to 1. Meaning I won more than $100 if I won, because it was unlikely. I make bets like that all the time.

Clearly you are not a gambler and separately I always pay when I lose.

Oh, gotcha. That makes sense.

I did take Illinois FB plus 3.5 in Vegas at Oregon for my last sports book bet. Bittersweet as I won, but Illinois lost 34-31.

Yes, you have always paid. Zero doubt on that front.

 

[BigWill]

Welp, we've officially hit the "Paxton Panic" moment in this chain.

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN IT COMING? WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THAT GIVING THE NOMINATION TO A CRIMINAL/CON ARTIST/GRIFTER WITH A RADICAL POLITICAL STYLE WOULD BE A DISASTER?

You all got away with Trump. A below average candidate who beat two hideous Dem opponents and lost to a below average one, at a time when Dems (especially in 2020 and 2024) actively worked to make themselves unpalatable.

That party is ******* over. You all are ushering in an era of Dem dominance, unless their primary voters don't want it! Always a possibility in the USA these days!

Trump states he will be out stumping for 36 Politicians he is supporting.

 

[ILisBest]

What are you even talking about? The migrants who overran Ceuta largely went back to Morrocco, as they have no right of entry or way to get to Europe.

The left leaning Spanish government has plenty of its own problems, including some major immigration issues (more about amnesty of people already there, nothing to do with Ceuta).

The hardcore Rs on this chain - including yourself - have their heads so far up their asses that they just emotionally post Twitter slop rather than actually trying to learn about issues. Might be an eye opener if you got off Twitter and actually read about reality, it's not that hard.

Or you could tell me more about how much Trump cares about the debt as it blows past $40T. Btw, the debt as a share of GDP went DOWN under Biden, it's yet again exploding under DJT. Awesome.

LOL. You liked twitter until they bounced you.

 

[BigWill]

Big Swill will make up an article that 75% of people don’t know how to spell “dumb” by end of weekend

Why wait ?

 

[ILisBest]

By the way, the MAGA posters here have reached different stages of grief about what's coming. Some denial, some pleading, some anger. It's psychologically compelling.

You now hang out too much with Stoned

I actually do appreciate the analysis. Which one am I?

 

[ILisBest]

I will vote for the best candidate.

Based on what criteria? You voted for Kamala, no?

 

[BigWill]

I am going to say this again. I will vote for the best candidate. I am not a partisan, I have an ideology about what is the best governance. You'd much rather be governed by the gay vegan than the dopey criminal (man ... not sure I'm talking about Trump or Kenny P here).

Trump and MAGA and the increasingly populism of the GOP are not much better - and may be worse - for my view of the world than the Dems, even if the portions of Reaganism they've retained are things I'd agree on.

The current Republican Party does not agree with me on the size of the government/debt, international engagement (I think trade wars are insane and talk of invading Greenland is deeply troubling), and the importance of decency in politics. Maybe these are all Trump problems, we will find out sooner rather than later.

By the way, the MAGA posters here have reached different stages of grief about what's coming. Some denial, some pleading, some anger. It's psychologically compelling.

So you must be for the opposite of reducing government payroll.

Since Trump has reduced the size to 1960's levels.

 

[dtrain79]

LOL. You liked twitter until they bounced you.

So no actual substantive response. Because you don't know a freaking thing about Spanish politics. So taking a Twitter post and acting like it's an argument is just stupid. (And I don't claim to be an expert in Spanish politics, but I clearly know more about their current immigration politics than you do. But again, literally no one who invaded Ceuta - and that's fairly characterized as an invasion - had any ability to actually get to Europe, as the immigration laws applicable to it aren't the same as the ones applicable to Europe in Spain.)

I certainly wasn't following the right wing slop accounts that you do. Which have proliferated under Elon (and the site has declined in importance btw, tho I don't think that's the entirety of the story). Btw, I could get a different Twitter account today, I just have zero interest in doing so because I'm not going to go on there under some anonymous account and post to no one on a site I think is run by a political buffoon.

On a separate note, do you have anything intelligent to say on any of this? Like ... an occasional original thought would be nice.

 

[ILisBest]

The hardcore Rs on this chain - including yourself - have their heads so far up their asses

This would hurt more if you had not went over the cliff on Trump hatred. You will abandon your main policy beliefs over this issue. MAGA supported Paxton, so you post quite a bit celebrating his potential demise. I am not sure you would cop to this, but it is quite apparent.

You are a very reasonable individual and I enjoyed having lunch with you, but behind a key board you tend to be a bit rude.

 

[dtrain79]

Based on what criteria? You voted for Kamala, no?

Also the best candidate. How exactly are things going in the US today? Just got out of an executive business meeting, almost comical how many Trump policies are actively hurting the economy (lack of fiscal management and the high interest rates, trade wars, geopolitical uncertainty, and significant immigration enforcement). I could make a decent argument on the latter being a reasonable policy in spite of the negative impact, but the remainder are purely self-inflicted wounds.

You are a Republican hack. I guess you learned the hard way that I don't do hack. Won't be a hack fan for bad Illini coaches. Won't be a hack partisan for idiot GOP Presidents/candidates.

So you must be for the opposite of reducing government payroll.

Since Trump has reduced the size to 1960's levels.

This is so dumb. The government's payroll does not drive the federal debt or deficit, even a little. It's mostly the handouts going to people like yourself. You should know this, but you know very little.

 

[dtrain79]

This would hurt more if you had not went over the cliff on Trump hatred. You will abandon your main policy beliefs over this issue. MAGA supported Paxton, so you post quite a bit celebrating his potential demise. I am not sure you would cop to this, but it is quite apparent.

You are a very reasonable individual and I enjoyed having lunch with you, but behind a key board you tend to be a bit rude.

Of course I'm rude. I don't see you all playing beanbag.

Bottom line, you are offended that I don't toe the GOP company line. You actually somewhat view it as treasonous. I hate Hillary Clinton (I just think Kamala is kind of a fool), and I voted for her because (a) I believe Trump is obviously unfit for office (and deep down you know I'm right on that) and (b) I think populism is a fool's ideology that does little more than inflame passions and does nothing to solve problems.

I would be the first to tell you the Trump #1 ended up - at least before Covid - much more like a standard GOP Admin than I expected and I was on balance happy with the outcome. Because I true to acknowledge reality.

In the interim between the two terms, we had the stolen election BS, the rise of a populist/loser cabal around Trump (and that's staffing the current Admin), the prosecutions (which, at least in fairness to him, justify some vindictiveness in response), the terrible VP choice spurred on by DJT/Tucker, and Trump's own aging that may Trump 2 an obviously terrible idea. It's living up to that billing.

Could you he turn it around? Sure ... but he'd have to revoke his own policies - especially tariffs and hassling our allies - that he seems to like the most. I'm not optimistic.

 

[BigWill]

DRANO and I AGREE !!

Here is one Trumpism, we have AGREED upon from it's get go !

Do not purchase stock in the Trump company !

Not when the IPO debuted at $ 30, not TODAY when it's trading lower than $ 10 bucks.

 

[ILisBest]

Also the best candidate. How exactly are things going in the US today?

My net worth has never been higher. Venezuela is a W. Iran has been crippled

Tax cuts were extended.

 

[dtrain79]

You now hang out too much with Stoned

I actually do appreciate the analysis. Which one am I?

As to me, anger. You are upset/mad that I'm "doing the wrong thing" (in your mind). But I told you.

TJ is denial, always denial.

Uncoach is pleading (tell me it's gonna be better than I fear, tell me).

Big Will ... welp, he's not going to change lol. He's no different than usual, the election is not high on his mind!

 

[dtrain79]

My net worth has never been higher. Venezuela is a W. Iran has been crippled

Tax cuts were extended.

First, there are absolutely wins.

Second, I think you are gonna do well under any President. I'm certain my net worth is at its peak, too!

If Trump did Venezuela/Iran (the second being unpopular) only, I'd still laud him for that. But we also got tariffs, Greenland, the weirdness with Russia and NK, and the constant bickering about NATO so ...

 

[ILisBest]

First, there are absolutely wins.

Second, I think you are gonna do well under any President. I'm certain my net worth is at its peak, too!

If Trump did Venezuela/Iran (the second being unpopular) only, I'd still laud him for that. But we also got tariffs, Greenland, the weirdness with Russia and NK, and the constant bickering about NATO so ...

All 32 NATO allies met the longstanding 2% of GDP target in 2025 for the first time. They are also purchasing U.S. weapons for Ukraine rather than relying on direct U.S. donations. I think I am good with this.

My net worth actually lost 1.5 million during a Biden year.

You referenced how things are going and then the weirdness of Russia. Russia is on the struggle bus and EU buys weapons from the US. Seems like a win all the way around to me.

Kamala was not for extending the Trump tax cuts. How do you think k that would have played out?

 

[dtrain79]

All 32 NATO allies met the longstanding 2% of GDP target in 2025 for the first time. They are also purchasing U.S. weapons for Ukraine rather than relying on direct U.S. donations. I think I am good with this.

My net worth actually lost 1.5 million during a Biden year.

You referenced how things are going and then the weirdness of Russia. Russia is on the struggle bus and EU buys weapons from the US. Seems like a win all the way around to me.

Kamala was not for extending the Trump tax cuts. How do you think k that would have played out?

Better for the debt, honestly.

Taxes are a hard question for me. Do I want to pay less? Yes. Do I think our current tax/spend policies are unsustainable, and both in need of reform (higher taxes/less spending)? Yes.

Call this one my commitment to the common good. We can't continue down the fiscal path we are on, hard decisions must be made.

 

[ILisBest]