Next Year’s Lineup '26
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Okay, answer it then…
Lazy appeal? Shadow boxing? Made man?
We have one “made man” in the lineup and that’s it. Even then, if he’d rather hunt than do what it takes to win a Title, he’s out of the lineup too.
We have another “made man” that has been passed by, by two young guns. This guy is a National Champ and he’s MIA.
I never said or thought anything negative of Vega, but he’s not made and his spot will never be safe. Safety depends on the drive followed by results.
Vega is actual a household name in my house. He’s my wife’s favorite and he competes with a smile (which is something I’m working on with my kid.)
But he’s not made yet. I expect it, but he’s never seen an NCAA week.
*I’ll refrain from further negativity
Man I had already wiped Figs from my memory haha. You said we have a national champ and it took me a few sec to remember he is on the team lol
good to know on Dee....if that is the case it appears we have a "hole" to fill at 174 in a couple of years
Nope, but possibly. I also think Jax runs at 3 different weights.
To be an Olympic Champ, he needs to be weighing above/around 150. So I think we see him grow from 61/133 after this next FS season.
His dad was a 157 I believe. Jax has the frame to be a 149 and 65kg down the road. I would be shocked if he's 133 next year. Jax 141 and Vega 149 I see happening soon
That’s how I see it as well. Yes, Howard was a 157 (or whatever the weight was then) and I’m pretty sure Jax is taller than his Dad.
It is a highly competitive atmosphere. All of our freshmen, including the Raneys, are world class talents. Right now, we do not know whether they are the kind of guys who are multi-time All Americans (floor) or four-time national champs (ceiling). Odds are, they are somewhere in the middle. Sergio will have all the opportunity in the world to stake his claim to a spot in the lineup, and I expect that he will.
I think you're right. But the retort to that is that he is already beating high-level guys despite his late start, and will probably jump levels further and faster than most elite recruits since he hasn't already had the benefit of decades of great coaching.
Man...what a great problem to have, but that is quite a log jam if Jax is 41 and Vega 49. opens the door for Cael Hughes/Ramirez/Raney at 33 but pushes Swiderski/Jamison out of the lineup at 41/49 and makes it tough for the other Raney to find a spot. then it depends on if Robideaux can hold 57 since it sounds like Dee is a multi year 65.
I don’t. I think he’ll grow. I also expect he’ll be a finalist this year and have a 50/50 shot if he makes it.
Don’t disagree at all with what you are saying.
It feels like Vega might be slightly discounted in this scenario.
A different way to frame it: take every other #2 at every other weight class. It would sound crazy to argue that someone is going to come in and take away any of the other nine’s spots unless we are talking about someone at Forrest, Bassett, Blaze, or Duke’s level. They Raneys are close. Don’t see anyone knocking Vega off.
Good problems to have . And with NIL Go being a thing losing guys to the portal won't be as much of a thing as it has been.
Unfortunately I was specifically scolded for saying he could use some muscle and weight reach his full potential
Agree on Robideaux.
Robb potentially at184. He's made some pretty big strides this year.
White looks like a special type of talent. Can't rule him out based on his improvement in a short amount of time.
Zack Ryder's no slouch. I'm not ready to give up on him yet.
Call me crazy but I think Ross could be Champ next year at HWT.
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Chase, you crack me up my man. National Title contender Vega’s spot is not secured, scoring points is important, and you’ve been to NCAAs…but Ryder has 184 locked up next year no questions asked?
Seems like a weight where a more competitive situation should, and would bet will be created.
Anyone with eyes can see what is happening at 184. Anyone telling you that they know who is going at that weight next year is yanking your chain. I understand why Chase would say that, and don't fault him too much for it.Chase, you crack me up my man. National Title contender Vega’s spot is not secured, scoring points is important, and you’ve been to NCAAs…but Ryder has 184 locked up next year no questions asked?
Seems like a weight where a more competitive situation should, and would bet will be created.
Haha, bless your heart.Chase, you crack me up my man. National Title contender Vega’s spot is not secured, scoring points is important, and you’ve been to NCAAs…but Ryder has 184 locked up next year no questions asked?
Seems like a weight where a more competitive situation should, and would bet will be created.
Currently, Ryder is the guy. That can change.
Im simply saying and have been saying, no spot is safe. If you don’t want to live the life, they’ll be looking for someone else. If you aren’t getting it done, you will see if someone else can.
I don’t see Vegas leaving the lineup until it’s to like for a RS/shirt. I was only saying, he’s not a made man yet as far as March production. That is the watermark. Go to NCAAs and swamp a 0-2 and the entire season was for naught.
The hungry dog hunts! It is literally that simple. I don’t see Vega not being a “made man” or falling into the BT/Figs trap. You were touting him as a finalist. I don’t disagree that it’s on the table and even betting odds likely. My NCAA comment was simply, it’s a wild event with tons of unexpected turns. You should go! I’ll even buy you a few drinks and we will have fun. March never goes chalk, ever.
I personally think White will take RS with limited wrestling experience. Ross main adversary will be Mirasola, unless Ross gets bigger and better in OSU room faster than we think he would. But he will be top 5 as soon as he steps on the mat. Along AJ, Amos, Mirasola, Nic.
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Cade Ziola, Coby Merrill, Michael Mocco, Nicholas Sahakian, Koy Hopke, among others. There will be no shortage of studs at 285 during Dreshaun's tenure
New to the wrestling forum. Who are the stud freshman that will fit into next years lineup and are we expected to be a better nationals team next season?
Incoming freshman are:
- Rocklin Zinkin - plans to redshirt then start at 125
- Jayden Raney - most likely 133 initially
Jax Forrest - the rascal couldn't wait- Jordyn Raney - most likely 149. Could possibly make 141
- Mikey White - will be 184 or 197
- Dreshaun Ross - heavyweight but currently a bit small (230 lbs)
Dreshaun and Jayden Raney are the most likely to start right away. Dreshaun because we won't have another option at 285 unless we bring in a transfer for a year. My opinion is a redshirt year is good for virtually every heavyweight but especially one on the lighter side. Jayden because many think Jax outgrows 133 after this season. That would have him competing with Ronnie and Rin for the spot.
Jordyn would potentially be competing with Jax, Vega, Swiderski, Tagen, and Hughes for either 141 or 149. I feel confident in saying he would AA if he starts next year, but earning the spot could be very difficult if our current guys perform well this March.
Mikey White has only wrestled for a few years so he could use more development time. However, despite his lack of experience, he won Ironman at 190 lbs, which earned him the #1 ranking at the weight.
Rocklin is a stud and would be an AA contender out of the gate as well. But with Spratley being a senior next year, he is content to redshirt.
As for whether we will be a better tournament team next year, we certainly should be. With us only losing Doucet from our current starters, our improvement should come primarily from development rather than roster upgrades. Exciting times ahead!