I agree 100%. It’s probably due to a well known idiopathic disease called “Grass-is-Greener”. There is no known cure.
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I think that’s part of it but it’s also how we’re recruiting. We have seemingly backed off on some very interested studs at the weight. That at least partially points to us liking what we have.
This. I honestly thought BT was going to be the first out the door, whether by choice or not. Instead - he's embraced being a true part of the team.
I like what DT did. He didn't employ the same/usual tactics that the typical scorched-earth coaches use when implementing a new culture. He set the expectations - but he's been willing to work with all of the kids and not just kick them to the curb after the first strike. Jordan Williams for instance - he was on the Gilman plan. Gilman spent A LOT of time with him off the mat, mentoring him and spending time with him - all in an effort to get the young man to reach his potential.
Pat is saying in Iowa rivals board that Iowa has legit chance to land Jax. Dont like it. Thats why I never take early favorites seriously in college.
Edit: Its Willie, not Pat
Edit: Its Willie, not Pat
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Since I don’t like what Pat’s saying I’m going back to believing he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
It's not wrong just because of the environment the sport is in.
Is it short-sighted if Jax does take the deal, yes. Can you blame him, no.
OSU is the right spot for him in every category besides one, a BIG pay day. That is literally the only thing that Iowa can offer him at this time.
Pat or Willie? I saw willie switched course and said they have a great shot with Jax now.
Do you see PSU in my post at all? I’m talking about Iowa versus OSU.
PSU is also a more attractive spot long term when compared to Iowa.
You said OSU is the right spot for him? What makes it the right spot, it’s not just OSU vs. Iowa for Jax.
Iowa v OSU seemed implied. No need to start a tertiary argument.
I think you guys are forgetting the most important and compelling argument for Jax coming to OSU. Which is that I would really like it if he did.
It was completely in reference to the discussion that Iowa is in the picture.
The topic being discussed is Iowa vs. OSU. OSU is the right spot for him if he has other goals besides money. PSU is also a spot that has more upside for him than Iowa…and I said as much.
I believe I saw Hamiti’s brother on our roster as a freshman? Is he as talented as his older brother?
You're right and ChasePollard is incorrect. Iowa can offer him garbage.
Seriously, what could Iowa offer a Bo Bassett that DT and OSU can't? The answer is nothing, which is why you are not getting the recruits you need to sustain your program. OSU has the better staff, the better vision for an athlete of Bo's caliber, and an RTC that will surpass Iowa in 2025 if they aren't already there. OSU also has as much money on the sidelines as Iowa just in case, but that is not what Bo is about.
So again, how is Chase incorrect?
Oh, and please don't delete my posts on your forum again. It's unbecoming of a moderator. Just refute it in words like you would any other post. I used to own forums in the past. It's bad form to delete posts you don't like.
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Also, I would say our RTC is already much better.
I added that before you posted lol. I do believe your RTC is already better but I also think it's past time to name a head coach for the RTC. If Kyle isn't coming, find someone else. The situation is feeling stale to me. My thought in writing my original post is that Gilman spent two hours one-on-one with Bo in his basement room. An Olympic medalist near your weight and in your basement for two hours is some powerful recruiting stuff. I remember Iowa fans pissing on Gilman the last 5 years for joining the NLWC and speaking out against the Brands methology. In that 5 years, Gilman made contact with kids like Bo relationship-wise and the payoff is now.
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Turd likes to dish it but he can't take it. He's nothing but an insecure, thin skinned person.
PSU guys agreeing about an Iowa moderator on an OSU forum. Classic!! It's like one big happy dysfunctional internet family.
There has been a few movements that’s didn’t get finalized.
I’d rather it be a tad stale than make a bad hire. If we don’t rush the monkey, we’ll get a better show.
Maybe Cael for RTC coach.
If someone would have showed me this post same time last year and also told me DT would be our head coach. Would be beyond my brainpower to figure out the dominos that fell.
DT to OSU is the easy part to imagine. The fact that he so quickly exposed Iowa as an empty suit in recruiting is the surprise.
I don't see why? Its obvious the psu staff pulls double duty. All I ever see seems like are Cody and Casey to the point I dont even think of Varner when I think about RTC coaches. And how many non psu fans even know Mcknight is a coach?
Zahid doesn't seemed worried about it? RBY came because of Gilman. No need to rush anything.
Are Dake and Snyder the only big names training at NLWC that aren't in the PSU pipeline? A couple of years ago everyone was flooding there to train, but I haven't heard of anyone else moving there lately. OSU is starting to have what PSU had just a few years ago. Yes they will have Brooks and Starocci but Snyder and Dake are reaching the end. My point is, I don't think we are far behind what the NLWC has built and brining in a RTC coach when you already have DT in the room working with them seems unnecessary at the moment.
Ono and Sad are coming in to advocate for Wrestlers from their country and provide an extensive network of tools to navigate towards world-class Wrestling as well as education.
Bey is coming to promote Greco and Reece will be his prize pupil.
Bey is coming to promote Greco and Reece will be his prize pupil.
Wouldn’t that be the freaking dream lol
That was actually a 12th hour, 360 on what was about to happen.
So no, at the time, and currently it’s surreal.
I know but imagining DT to OSU was easy. Getting it done was the harder squeeze.
DT wasn’t just going to fade off into the sunset and farm his acreage and train kids at M2. His entire life trajectory screamed head coach.
Jumping ahead to the 2024-2025 Cowboy wrestling season, the team will be losing much of this years squad. We have Seniors at 157, 165, 174, 184, 197 & 285. OSU does not have replacements at many of these weights and would probably not be very successful using incoming Freshmen in the lineup. Will the coaching staff be able to go into the portal to put a competitive team on the mat? That seems like quite a task.
157 - T Travis
165 - L Lockett
174 - ??? Portal guy?
184 - Robb or Thompson
197 - Merrill
285 - Doucett or portal
Clearly not the same horsepower, YET, but I expect portal additions too. We are freeing up a lot of $ (depending on the new rules). Also Kody Routledge is in the discussion somewhere,
I like where we stand from 125 through 165 and 197. Who knows how the final lineup will shake out, but I am confident we will have at least one quality wrestler at each of those weights. I have a lot of questions at 174, 184, and 285. In theory, Thompson could lock down one of the 174/184 spots, but the jury is still out on him. The other two spots seem like they will need to come through the portal, although Doucet would be serviceable at 285 if necessary. That weight class clears out a lot next year.
Not really if the guys graduating stick around to wrestle at the RTC. Which I am thinking most are. Plus, look at the coaching staff, some true leaders there. OK State will be fine. Losing 157 up will hurt, especially with the guys OK State is losing. It would hurt any team for sure. However, you will start to see it become 100% DT's team that he is bringing in, his recruits.